RNC changing primary rules

[SwimExpert]

Listen to yourself. You can't get your way, so you're hoping for Democrats to win. And you call that being a "real" Republican? You're a joke.

 

[hunarcy]

The fringe does not get to dictate to the majority.

And yet, you on the Left keep trying to do that...it's sad to watch, by the way.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

moderates want to stifle debate and control the message.

they see their power slipping so they are going to take their ball and go home aka; change the rules so I win or you don't even get to play

So party growth is NOT an objective?




What if the mainstream started listening to the Libertarian wing and abandoned it's obsession with Trickle Down Economics, attracting back all the moderates like me who figured out it was bullshit so many years ago? Would you turn our votes away? Over what? Ideological 'purity'?

It was the moderates that drove me from the gop.

If they move further left to get you and Jake voting for them, I won't bother to even listen again.

moderate reps would have been dems in the 70's.


take note; our country has declined, the political parties have moved left.

It's not a coincidence.

Nonsense.

The country has not ‘declined.’

More Americans enjoy greater freedom today than at any time in this Nation’s history.

And the best America is yet to come, the only thing slowing us down is the fearful, reactionary right.

 

[Sallow]

First on CNN: Republicans moving to overhaul 2016 primary process - CNN.com

I assume this marks the end of the clown car festivities?

One proposal being weighed by the RNC members would involve sanctioning a small handful of debates while penalizing candidates who participate in any nonsanctioned GOP debate by stripping them of one-third of their delegates to the national convention.

There is also a "heavy appetite" to have a say over which journalists should be allowed to moderate the debates, said one Republican familiar with the ongoing discussions.

"There is a definitely a consensus for Reince's objective to have less debates and have control over how and who we have run our debates, rather than just turning it over to X, Y or Z network and having a guy moderate who's going to just dog you for two hours," said the Republican, who requested anonymity to discuss the sensitive and not-yet-finalized rules changes.

Calendar changes approved by the subcommittee must then be ratified by the RNC's Standing Committee on Rules, a vote that could take place as early as January at the RNC's winter meeting in Washington. If approved by the rules committee, the full 168-member RNC must vote on the calendar changes sometime before next summer.

This is a promising start.

Naw.

Those debates were comedy gold.

I loved each and every one of them.

 

[william the wie]

Tea Party candidates may lose to RINOs in primaries but the RINOs budgets will have been spent and we can proceed to elect straightforward liberal Democrats. Hell, if you're gonna have a liberal why not one who admits he/she/it IS a liberal!

Exactly, the vision of Boehner and Pelosi are the same differing in degree but not in kind so let's do away with this travesty.

 

[birddog]

The fringe does not get to dictate to the majority.

The socialist wing of The Democrat Party seems to have done pretty well at just that.

We will let the Dems worry about themselves. We are done with the Conservative Extreme minority dictating to the better informed more numerous and well financed mainstream GOP.

Dumbass "one trick pony!" You are as shallow as sallow!

 

[Two Thumbs]

So party growth is NOT an objective?




What if the mainstream started listening to the Libertarian wing and abandoned it's obsession with Trickle Down Economics, attracting back all the moderates like me who figured out it was bullshit so many years ago? Would you turn our votes away? Over what? Ideological 'purity'?

It was the moderates that drove me from the gop.

If they move further left to get you and Jake voting for them, I won't bother to even listen again.

moderate reps would have been dems in the 70's.

take note; our country has declined, the political parties have moved left.

It's not a coincidence.

No, you are not mainstream or the normal. You are Conservative Extreme, and America does not want that.

moderate reps and lib dems have put the country at the edge of ruin.

Why should we keep doing what you and they want?

 

[Two Thumbs]

So party growth is NOT an objective?




What if the mainstream started listening to the Libertarian wing and abandoned it's obsession with Trickle Down Economics, attracting back all the moderates like me who figured out it was bullshit so many years ago? Would you turn our votes away? Over what? Ideological 'purity'?

It was the moderates that drove me from the gop.

If they move further left to get you and Jake voting for them, I won't bother to even listen again.

moderate reps would have been dems in the 70's.


take note; our country has declined, the political parties have moved left.

It's not a coincidence.

"Reasonable" is too much to ask, eh?

Then all the Gerrymandering in the world cannot save conservatives.

​

You put the country on the brink of ruin.

And you want me to reasonably allow it to continue instead of trying to save the country.

 

[AVG-JOE]

The fringe does not get to dictate to the majority.

The socialist wing of The Democrat Party seems to have done pretty well at just that.

That's probably true, to some degree.

If so, shame on the moderate democrats who allow it for whatever reason, and thank (insert your preferred Deity here) that the left wing extremists never came close to ruining the US credit rating.

And certain warped kudos to the right-wing extremists - Few will disagree that the T-Party gets the oscar nod in this movie about the extremist tail wagging the DC Dog.

 

[AVG-JOE]

It was the moderates that drove me from the gop.

If they move further left to get you and Jake voting for them, I won't bother to even listen again.

moderate reps would have been dems in the 70's.


take note; our country has declined, the political parties have moved left.

It's not a coincidence.

"Reasonable" is too much to ask, eh?

Then all the Gerrymandering in the world cannot save conservatives.

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The far right extreme has gone as far as gerrymandering can get them.

By 2020, the elections in the light red states will be purpling and blue by 2024.

The gerrymandering will be reversed for ever unless the GOP meets the demographic changes that have occurred.

Unless............

The republicans abandon their obsession with Trickle Down Voodoo Economics and trying to legislate Judeo-Christian morality and CHANGE THE FUCKING MESSAGE.

It's NOT the messenger, guys.

 

[JoeB131]

A quick thought on this whole Rules Change.

It does the GOP no favors.

The idea is that because Main Stream Media figures are hated "Liberals", they will ask questions from a liberal bias. So let's give them moderators who are conservatives and will ask conservative questions.

Not seeing how that really preps the eventual nominee to compete in the general election.

You see, the real problem in 2012 is that you had these guys leap-frogging each other to play to the Black Helicopter crowd.

And you had the kind of insanity where Rick Perry was defending a policy to vaccinate girls against Cervical Cancer against the batshit craziness of Michelle Bachmann.

 

[longknife]

I have a gut feel the RINOs in charge are gonna regret this.

They're gonna piss off a lot of people who would otherwise GOP and their will either not go to the polls or vote Independent or Libertarian.

 

[birddog]

Reagan was smart enough to promote "getting a piece of the pie" rather than no pie at all!

Reagan was also the greatest President of our lifetime!

 

[AVG-JOE]

It was the moderates that drove me from the gop.

If they move further left to get you and Jake voting for them, I won't bother to even listen again.

moderate reps would have been dems in the 70's.


take note; our country has declined, the political parties have moved left.

It's not a coincidence.

"Reasonable" is too much to ask, eh?

Then all the Gerrymandering in the world cannot save conservatives.

​

You put the country on the brink of ruin.

And you want me to reasonably allow it to continue instead of trying to save the country.

I put the country on the brink of ruin?!?

I can only wish for that kind of power.


In the meantime, keep on expressing your opinions... right now all the extremism from the right is doing is strengthning the hand of their hated opposition in the purple hats, but who knows what will be the lay of the land after 2014 & 2016?

To free speech!​

 

[Toro]

"Reasonable" is too much to ask, eh?

Then all the Gerrymandering in the world cannot save conservatives.

​

You put the country on the brink of ruin.

And you want me to reasonably allow it to continue instead of trying to save the country.

I put the country on the brink of ruin?!?

]

I always knew you were evil!

 

[whitehall]

The GOP congressional majority can't independently change anything. The subject is nothing but a desperate move by the liberal media propaganda machines to camouflage the senate's use of the so-called "nuclear option" to prevent discussion of king Hussein's appointments.

 

[candycorn]

Does anyone know how many (if any) States in the GOP primary will remain winner-take-all?

 

[william the wie]

The GOP congressional majority can't independently change anything. The subject is nothing but a desperate move by the liberal media propaganda machines to camouflage the senate's use of the so-called "nuclear option" to prevent discussion of king Hussein's appointments.

Somewhat agree but the D-lites are assuming too much:

that major D bankruptcies will not happen prior to the 2014 election but will happen prior to the 2016 election. Since there are at least two lists of the most probable municipal bankruptcies one list putting Boston as no.1 and another Chicago with who knows how many other lists with other rankings I would not make this bet.

Like China's ghost cities, which had reached 10 confirmed cases when I said to hell with it, you can't time this crap just get a zero plus hedge and check your long and short LEAPs every quarter or six months or whatever and otherwise ignore it. (China may have already crashed the data is that confusing and it will affect the 2014 election if it has happened.)

The assumption that Ocare won't go off the rails until after the business exchanges open after the election is also dubious.

All the D-lite assumptions are based on what may very well be vaporware put out by their internal and external opponents. In which case any vaporware turning into very different economic facts could mean a very hard turn to the right during the primary season and loss of leadership positions for pretty much everyone on either side of the aisle in both houses of congress making the OP moot.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

First on CNN: Republicans moving to overhaul 2016 primary process - CNN.com

I assume this marks the end of the clown car festivities?

One proposal being weighed by the RNC members would involve sanctioning a small handful of debates while penalizing candidates who participate in any nonsanctioned GOP debate by stripping them of one-third of their delegates to the national convention.

There is also a "heavy appetite" to have a say over which journalists should be allowed to moderate the debates, said one Republican familiar with the ongoing discussions.

"There is a definitely a consensus for Reince's objective to have less debates and have control over how and who we have run our debates, rather than just turning it over to X, Y or Z network and having a guy moderate who's going to just dog you for two hours," said the Republican, who requested anonymity to discuss the sensitive and not-yet-finalized rules changes.

Calendar changes approved by the subcommittee must then be ratified by the RNC's Standing Committee on Rules, a vote that could take place as early as January at the RNC's winter meeting in Washington. If approved by the rules committee, the full 168-member RNC must vote on the calendar changes sometime before next summer.

This is a promising start.

Limiting the amount of exposure candidates get is a promising start? Do you want to continue to have people in office that you know nothing about, have no idea what there policies and positions are, and how well they can handle off the wall questions designed to make them look bad? Seriously?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I honestly can't see how this kind of rule is going to hold up.

It worked for the Democrats, didn't it? Without it we wouldn't have a black president.