RNC changing primary rules

[AVG-JOE]

Because party growth is a republican objective?

Or is it?

Piece.

Depends on who you ask. The establishment GOP is interested in obtaining a majority in the Senate and the Whitehouse in 2016. The Tea Party is more concerned about the ideological purity of the candidates. Since the former objective requires the willingness to compromise the latter group perceives that as a betrayal of principle. So this is a fight for control of the party.

moderates want to stifle debate and control the message.

they see their power slipping so they are going to take their ball and go home aka; change the rules so I win or you don't even get to play

So party growth is NOT an objective?




What if the mainstream started listening to the Libertarian wing and abandoned it's obsession with Trickle Down Economics, attracting back all the moderates like me who figured out it was bullshit so many years ago? Would you turn our votes away? Over what? Ideological 'purity'?

 

[AVG-JOE]

What is purity of ideology for the right?

 

[JoeB131]

Remember when the Democrats had Hannity, Limbaugh and Levin moderate their primaries?

Not really a good comparison, since the MSM Moderaters are not Maddow and Chris Matthews.

Remember when Obama appeared on Fox or took question from Fox?

Yes. I do.

 

[JoeB131]

The problem the REpublicans had with their debates was that the two most credible guys on the stage though they were wearing magic underwear....

 

[JWBooth]

For entertainment purposes, all moderators should have to be subject to a conservative means testing so that only real conservatives get to question the candidates.

I, for one, would love to see Anne Coulter as a moderator.

It would be a hoot.

 

[JWBooth]

What is purity of ideology for the right?

Glory be to the Bomb, and to the Holy Fallout. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be. World without end. Amen.
May the Blessings of the Bomb Almighty, and the Fellowship of the Holy Fallout, descend upon us all. This day and forever more.

War without end Amen, Amen!
Oh and increasingly intrusive powers for the Directorat of State Security.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Depends on who you ask. The establishment GOP is interested in obtaining a majority in the Senate and the Whitehouse in 2016. The Tea Party is more concerned about the ideological purity of the candidates. Since the former objective requires the willingness to compromise the latter group perceives that as a betrayal of principle. So this is a fight for control of the party.

moderates want to stifle debate and control the message.

they see their power slipping so they are going to take their ball and go home aka; change the rules so I win or you don't even get to play

So party growth is NOT an objective?




What if the mainstream started listening to the Libertarian wing and abandoned it's obsession with Trickle Down Economics, attracting back all the moderates like me who figured out it was bullshit so many years ago? Would you turn our votes away? Over what? Ideological 'purity'?

It was the moderates that drove me from the gop.

If they move further left to get you and Jake voting for them, I won't bother to even listen again.

moderate reps would have been dems in the 70's.


take note; our country has declined, the political parties have moved left.

It's not a coincidence.

 

[JakeStarkey]

moderates want to stifle debate and control the message.

they see their power slipping so they are going to take their ball and go home aka; change the rules so I win or you don't even get to play

So party growth is NOT an objective?




What if the mainstream started listening to the Libertarian wing and abandoned it's obsession with Trickle Down Economics, attracting back all the moderates like me who figured out it was bullshit so many years ago? Would you turn our votes away? Over what? Ideological 'purity'?

It was the moderates that drove me from the gop.

If they move further left to get you and Jake voting for them, I won't bother to even listen again.

moderate reps would have been dems in the 70's.

take note; our country has declined, the political parties have moved left.

It's not a coincidence.

No, you are not mainstream or the normal. You are Conservative Extreme, and America does not want that.

 

[SwimExpert]

Awesome, the rnc power elite are working to control the message to prevent conservative and libertarian views from being heard.

Doesn't tyrannical control just warm the heart?

Somebody needed more evidence that the Republican Party is now a spavined sub-set of The Democrat Party?

If you don't like it then get the hell out and form your own party. Meanwhile, we're moving forward and taking our party back from you extremist whack-jobs.

 

[HenryBHough]

Awesome, the rnc power elite are working to control the message to prevent conservative and libertarian views from being heard.

Doesn't tyrannical control just warm the heart?

Somebody needed more evidence that the Republican Party is now a spavined sub-set of The Democrat Party?

If you don't like it then get the hell out and form your own party. Meanwhile, we're moving forward and taking our party back from you extremist whack-jobs.

You've already make it a red-headed stepchild of The Democrat Party. What more propose you?

 

[AVG-JOE]

moderates want to stifle debate and control the message.

they see their power slipping so they are going to take their ball and go home aka; change the rules so I win or you don't even get to play

So party growth is NOT an objective?




What if the mainstream started listening to the Libertarian wing and abandoned it's obsession with Trickle Down Economics, attracting back all the moderates like me who figured out it was bullshit so many years ago? Would you turn our votes away? Over what? Ideological 'purity'?

It was the moderates that drove me from the gop.

If they move further left to get you and Jake voting for them, I won't bother to even listen again.

moderate reps would have been dems in the 70's.


take note; our country has declined, the political parties have moved left.

It's not a coincidence.

"Reasonable" is too much to ask, eh?

Then all the Gerrymandering in the world cannot save conservatives.

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[rdean]

First on CNN: Republicans moving to overhaul 2016 primary process - CNN.com

I assume this marks the end of the clown car festivities?

One proposal being weighed by the RNC members would involve sanctioning a small handful of debates while penalizing candidates who participate in any nonsanctioned GOP debate by stripping them of one-third of their delegates to the national convention.

There is also a "heavy appetite" to have a say over which journalists should be allowed to moderate the debates, said one Republican familiar with the ongoing discussions.

"There is a definitely a consensus for Reince's objective to have less debates and have control over how and who we have run our debates, rather than just turning it over to X, Y or Z network and having a guy moderate who's going to just dog you for two hours," said the Republican, who requested anonymity to discuss the sensitive and not-yet-finalized rules changes.

Calendar changes approved by the subcommittee must then be ratified by the RNC's Standing Committee on Rules, a vote that could take place as early as January at the RNC's winter meeting in Washington. If approved by the rules committee, the full 168-member RNC must vote on the calendar changes sometime before next summer.

This is a promising start.

Actually, it's just a new way to slip one past the American public. They are trying to hide who they are.

 

[BDBoop]

The fringe does not get to dictate to the majority.

 

[HenryBHough]

The fringe does not get to dictate to the majority.

The socialist wing of The Democrat Party seems to have done pretty well at just that.

 

[JakeStarkey]

So party growth is NOT an objective?




What if the mainstream started listening to the Libertarian wing and abandoned it's obsession with Trickle Down Economics, attracting back all the moderates like me who figured out it was bullshit so many years ago? Would you turn our votes away? Over what? Ideological 'purity'?

It was the moderates that drove me from the gop.

If they move further left to get you and Jake voting for them, I won't bother to even listen again.

moderate reps would have been dems in the 70's.


take note; our country has declined, the political parties have moved left.

It's not a coincidence.

"Reasonable" is too much to ask, eh?

Then all the Gerrymandering in the world cannot save conservatives.

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The far right extreme has gone as far as gerrymandering can get them.

By 2020, the elections in the light red states will be purpling and blue by 2024.

The gerrymandering will be reversed for ever unless the GOP meets the demographic changes that have occurred.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The fringe does not get to dictate to the majority.

The socialist wing of The Democrat Party seems to have done pretty well at just that.

We will let the Dems worry about themselves. We are done with the Conservative Extreme minority dictating to the better informed more numerous and well financed mainstream GOP.

 

[william the wie]

Given Gerrymandering and the Ocare disaster TEA party candidates can take most GOP house seats and some senate seats. With the RINOs as the centrist party and the Ds headed for default/bankruptcy in IL, CA and probably RI with Boston, Chicago, NYC, Baltimore and Houston driving the message home the Ds are in ever bigger trouble. 2014 would be a good time for a party split and 2016 even better.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Given Gerrymandering and the Ocare disaster TEA party candidates can take most GOP house seats and some senate seats. With the RINOs as the centrist party and the Ds headed for default/bankruptcy in IL, CA and probably RI with Boston, Chicago, NYC, Baltimore and Houston driving the message home the Ds are in ever bigger trouble. 2014 would be a good time for a party split and 2016 even better.

Most of the TeaPs will be primaried out. They don't have the votes or the money. Half of them lost their seats in 2012 and at least 22 of the remaining 33 are set to fall next year. Maybe more.

We may take the Senate with some mainstream GOP candidates. We can't with the TeaPs, who have cost us a total of five Senate seats (the majority in the last two elections.)

The GOP mainstream will not give the TeaPs another chance.

 

[candycorn]

It looks like the National Party is wanting to institute message control that was once the domain of disciplined candidates. Basically, it's acting like a father figure to the candidates.

Makes sense.

 

[HenryBHough]

Tea Party candidates may lose to RINOs in primaries but the RINOs budgets will have been spent and we can proceed to elect straightforward liberal Democrats. Hell, if you're gonna have a liberal why not one who admits he/she/it IS a liberal!