Right-Wing Challenge: Fair Income Tax For The Top 50% vs Bottom 50%

Guys California needs another $25 billion for homeless don't you care

They stole the last $25 billion and the 25 billion before that the homeless got dick
 
Considering that nearly half of the wager earners in the United States pay zero percent or less in federal income tax…. This thread is a bit strange.
 
F the poor!! There, I said it! Only 50% of Americans actually pay income taxes. How dare the 50% who do not pay income taxes opine on whether us taxpayers are paying enough (Our fAiR sHarE🤡). They should be grateful that we put up with our ass-backwards tax system. And now they want more. F those people, man. What if we taxpayers just stop working or move to Bolivia. YOU would be F-ED!! big time.

I will not go as far as saying that the non income tax voters, who suffer no infirmities, should not be allowed to vote. However, their votes should not count for as much as MINE! People with skin in the game (e.g., wealth, property, assets) will manage our nation much more prudently than those who do not.

I propose that if you pay income and/or capital gains taxes, and have been doing so for at least 10 years, then each of you get 1 vote. If you do not pay income taxes, but you hold property or other significant assets, you get 2/3 of a vote. If you don’t pay income taxes and don’t own shit, then you get 1/3 of a vote. If you are an alien, convicted felon, or declared enemy of the republic, then you get 0 vote and a good swift kick in the nuts.
How about we get a vote for every dollar of tax we pay? My vote will count 10X’s yours?
 
Considering that nearly half of the wager earners in the United States pay zero percent or less in federal income tax…. This thread is a bit strange.
This thread explains why. Did you see the OP’s graphic?
 
whats fair is everyone pays the same percentage,,
Nope. That would be regressive.


as it stands now the lower income people pay almost nothing with some even getting back more than they pay in,,
Exactly as Thomas Jefferson and James Madison intended.

Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise.

Equality: Thomas Jefferson to James Madison
 
Nope. That would be regressive.



Exactly as Thomas Jefferson and James Madison intended.

Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise.

Equality: Thomas Jefferson to James Madison
that would be fair,,

and TJ and JM never conceived taxing income at all,,
 
Guys California needs another $25 billion for homeless don't you care

They stole the last $25 billion and the 25 billion before that the homeless got dick
The more money you give GelBoi Newscum for the homeless, the more homeless you get.


And Dimwingers call this compassion.
 
Nope. That would be regressive.



Exactly as Thomas Jefferson and James Madison intended.

Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise.

Equality: Thomas Jefferson to James Madison
Treating everyone the same isn’t fair.

That’s all you need to know about the Dimwinger Cult.
 
Surprisingly or not the highest life outcomes (health, lifespan, happiness, income safety) occur in high tax states.
hmmm, that income safety thingy, what is it safe from? is it safe from government tax collectors, are the incomes figured at gross or net? and if the income safety is not just some contrived stat/claim wouldn't making it safe from taxes be all the more reason to protect income from those taxes?...white liberals have failed so miserably at this that they have nothing to lose by pretending having less money in your check is true happiness.
 
hmmm, that income safety thingy, what is it safe from? is it safe from government tax collectors, are the incomes figured at gross or net? and if the income safety is not just some contrived stat/claim wouldn't making it safe from taxes be all the more reason to protect income from those taxes?...white liberals have failed so miserably at this that they have nothing to lose by pretending having less money in your check is true happiness.
No one is taking your money. You likely make shit. I guarantee you that you have no stake in the game.
 
Your system would have poorer starve to death while still working...

The rich will still find loopholes (they always do)...

The real question is, What kind of society do you want?
Do you want a place where society looks after their weakest and most vulnerable OR where your chance to succeed is better than most if you work hard?

At the moment the US lags behind US in both of those criteria.
A large part US is convinced

  • The weakest and most vulnerable are all scammers and cheating the system
  • US rewards hard work (it doesn't, is 27th in world in Economic Social Mobility)

US has been bullshitted by people with money that the best way for you to get rich is to allow the rich to keep more of their money and pay less tax...
More leftwing loser talk. I get so sick of it. Anyone in this country with average intelligence can become rich. That's a fact.
 
More leftwing loser talk. I get so sick of it. Anyone in this country with average intelligence can become rich. That's a fact.
You’re not rich.
 
You’re not rich.
Pretty sure you know otherwise. I’ve offered to mentor you, Mac1958, Lucky and others on investing and business, but you show me every day you have no desire to learn.
 
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I’ve offered to mentor you, Mac1958, Lucky and others on finance, but you show me every day you have no desire to learn.
You worry about the things someone just getting by worries about. No one making it easily is worried about what taxes the poor pay. lol. Nice try.
 
You worry about the things someone just getting by worries about. No one making it easily is worried about what taxes the poor pay. lol. Nice try.
I’m just saying. Coming in here and bitching about Trump every day isn’t going to help your finances. It’s up to YOU.
 
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Should they be?

I already told you I make a dollar a year

TRANSLATION: "I think I see why I am losing this argument"
Look. Those of you petrified about your money arent in the brackets that are underpaying taxes. You guys crack me up. You want to belong which is why you are so passionate about it but your not. I dont get it.
 
Look. Those of you petrified about your money arent in the brackets that are underpaying taxes.
You guys crack me up. You want to belong which is why you are so passionate about it but your not. I dont get it.
so in a white liberal world the knock down drag out fight over taxes is between the poor who demand you pay less taxes and the wealthy like yourself who demand they accept your money but they refuse to?...would you say that sums up your argument?...[try deflection in the hopes no one recognizes your folly in this type of argument]
 
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