House G.O.P. Floats Medicaid Cuts and More to Finance Trump’s Tax Cuts

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

How do you figure that once all the home “workers” are back to the office, we won’t see office buildings being more utilized? Only 6% of them work full-time in the office, and EVERY government worker I know has been working in the office only once a week (and you should hear them ***** about it).

FALSE STAT. Only 6% work EVERY day.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Depends what you mean by cut to a 35-year-old woman and her three older children (in school all day) who refuses to get even a part-time job, then that would be OK. She needs to do some level of work.

Who watches her kids while she works if they are not in school?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

There is one way to get ahead now. Retire as early as possible. Stay single, work, save. Don't take time to enjoy stuff. Work and save. Retire in one's early 50s. The new americsn dream.

Then die because you can't afford heathcare.

 

[Lisa558]

How so? Do you know how hard it is to qualify for SSDI?

Reports are that SSDI is the most abused program of them all.

 

[Lisa558]

Who watches her kids while she works if they are not in school?

I said older kids - they would be in school - and a part-time job.

There is no excuse for a woman with a 14-year-old and a 16-year-old to stay at home all day, collecting all sorts of welfare, instead of getting a part-time job at the minimum.

Also, many of these welfare types are in generational homes - with a 45-year-old grandma, a 25-year-old son, a 23-year-old daughter, and the daughter’s two kids. None of the adults work. At least one should get a job, and the other watch the kids.

Or, advance the ages: Grandma is 55, son is 35, daughter is 33, and kids are now 15 and 17. How is it that not one of the three adults has a job?

We need to crack down on this. The only people getting welfare who don’t work at all should be disabled or moms with kids under 12.

 

[Moonglow]

Baby Boomers and/or their kids get your checkbook out! Those Medicaid funds that paying for a loved ones nursing home care is about to come to a screeching halt.

We have been paying 1500 a week for my mother's homecare nurse.

 

[Moonglow]

Reports are that SSDI is the most abused program of them all.

While some reports may claim SSDI (Social Security Disability Insurance) is the most abused program, according to data from the Social Security Administration's Office of the Inspector General, the reality is that widespread fraud within SSDI is not supported by statistics, and claims of significant abuse are often exaggerated; the vast majority of recipients genuinely qualify for benefits, and investigations primarily focus on identifying and addressing isolated cases of fraud.

Key points to consider:

• Low fraud rate:
  Official reports consistently show that the rate of fraud within SSDI is relatively low compared to the overall number of recipients.
  
  
• Strict eligibility criteria:
  To qualify for SSDI, individuals must have a medically documented disability that significantly limits their ability to work.
  
  
• Rigorous application process:
  The Social Security Administration has a comprehensive process for evaluating disability claims, including medical examinations and hearings.
  

Concerns about potential abuse:

• Misperception in media:
  Some media reports may overstate the issue of SSDI fraud, leading to a public perception that abuse is widespread.
  
  
• Certain high-profile cases:
  Isolated cases of fraudulent claims can contribute to the perception of widespread abuse.
  
  
• Political rhetoric:
  Some political discussions may utilize concerns about SSDI abuse for rhetorical purposes.

 

[debbiedowner]

How so? You don't even know what that is!

You do have to be jesting. I do know have have known for many, many years.

 

[Dante]

Republicans are passing around lists of ideas to pay for Trump's new tax cuts. These include cuts to to Medicare, Medicaid, tariffs, and use taxes on people.
A complete list is noted in the article. Thoughts USMB?

House G.O.P. Floats Medicaid Cuts and More to Finance Trump’s Huge Agenda

President Trump wants a massive tax cut and immigration crackdown bill. Now Republicans must decide what to cut to help pay for it.

www.nytimes.com

Top Republicans are passing around an extensive menu of ideas to cover the cost of a massive tax cut and immigration crackdown bill. They could create a 10 percent tariff on all imports, bringing in an estimated $1.9 trillion. They could establish new work requirements for Medicaid recipients, bringing in $100 billion in savings.
They have even calculated that they could generate $20 billion by raising taxes on people who can use a free gym at the office, according to a 50-page list of options that the House Budget Committee has circulated in recent days.

Read: Draft of G.O.P. Cost Cuts for Tax Bill​

Top Republicans are passing around a 50-page list of ideas on how to cover the cost of a tax cut and immigration crackdown bill.
Read Document 50 pages


The bigger challenge for Republican leaders is trying to figure out what can pass Congress and be signed by President Trump. With slim majorities in both chambers, they are searching for the right mix of policy changes that could offset some of the costs of Mr. Trump’s most expensive proposals, placating spending hard-liners who are concerned about ballooning the government’s debt, while also maintaining the support of more centrist members who are loath to slash popular programs.

House Republicans huddled in the Capitol on Wednesday to discuss a mix of options on the table.
Complicating their task is a political challenge: Many of the cuts Republicans are contemplating target programs aimed at helping low-income Americans, all in the service of paying for the extension of tax cuts that disproportionately benefit the wealthy.
The overarching goal is to push through a behemoth bill that cuts taxes and clamps down on immigration using a process called reconciliation, which would allow Republican leaders to avoid a filibuster and move legislation through the Senate with a simple majority, even if all Democrats are opposed.
Many of the G.O.P.’s anti-spending members have said they cannot support a bill that adds significantly to the nation’s debt. But most of the major policies Mr. Trump wants included in the legislation are extremely expensive. Extending the tax cuts he signed into law in 2017 alone is expected to cost $5 trillion.
That has left Republicans casting about for ways to offset those costs. The budget panel’s menu of possibilities includes everything from major clawbacks of current policy to lower-hanging fruit. Among many others, there are proposals to repeal major health care subsidy programs established by the Affordable Care Act, put caps on Medicaid funding, and end a policy that makes employer-provided meals and lodging tax-exempt.

thank you...

Read: Draft Options for G.O.P. Cost Cuts for Tax Bill​

Jan. 23, 2025

Top Republicans are passing around a 50-page list of ideas on how to cover the cost of a tax cut and immigration crackdown bill, including cuts to Medicaid and a 10 percent tariff on all imports. The list also includes tax cut proposals, such as lowering the corporate tax rate and eliminating income taxes on tips.

Read: Draft Options for G.O.P. Cost Cuts for Tax Bill

Top Republicans are passing around a 50-page list of ideas on how to cover the cost of a tax cut and immigration crackdown bill.

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[Dante]

Reports are that SSDI is the most abused program of them all.

I heard it was the VA benefits programs. Tales of social workers and advocates scouring the streets looking to sign up anybody and work on upgrading shitty discharges into ones that can they deliver benefits.

Many of the people are the dregs of society with terrible discharges who then get upgraded and flood the system

what do you know about this?

 

[Dante]

While some reports may claim SSDI (Social Security Disability Insurance) is the most abused program, according to data from the Social Security Administration's Office of the Inspector General, the reality is that widespread fraud within SSDI is not supported by statistics, and claims of significant abuse are often exaggerated; the vast majority of recipients genuinely qualify for benefits, and investigations primarily focus on identifying and addressing isolated cases of fraud.

Key points to consider:

• Low fraud rate:
  Official reports consistently show that the rate of fraud within SSDI is relatively low compared to the overall number of recipients.
  
  
• Strict eligibility criteria:
  To qualify for SSDI, individuals must have a medically documented disability that significantly limits their ability to work.
  
  
• Rigorous application process:
  The Social Security Administration has a comprehensive process for evaluating disability claims, including medical examinations and hearings.

Concerns about potential abuse:

• Misperception in media:
  Some media reports may overstate the issue of SSDI fraud, leading to a public perception that abuse is widespread.
  
  
• Certain high-profile cases:
  Isolated cases of fraudulent claims can contribute to the perception of widespread abuse.
  
  
• Political rhetoric:
  Some political discussions may utilize concerns about SSDI abuse for rhetorical purposes.

thank you

but

facts matter little to Magadonians

 

[Dante]

We have been paying 1500 a week for my mother's homecare nurse.

They don't want to hear about the realities.


it goes against the MAG and GOP narratives

 

[Moonglow]

They don't want to hear about the realities.


it goes against the MAG and GOP narratives

When they be digging in trash cans, I bet they will still vote fer the liar in chief.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Reports are that SSDI is the most abused program of them all.

Do you have any idea how hard it is to get SS disability? It took me 15 months to get approved and I had a liver transplant.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I said older kids - they would be in school - and a part-time job.

There is no excuse for a woman with a 14-year-old and a 16-year-old to stay at home all day, collecting all sorts of welfare, instead of getting a part-time job at the minimum.

Also, many of these welfare types are in generational homes - with a 45-year-old grandma, a 25-year-old son, a 23-year-old daughter, and the daughter’s two kids. None of the adults work. At least one should get a job, and the other watch the kids.

Or, advance the ages: Grandma is 55, son is 35, daughter is 33, and kids are now 15 and 17. How is it that not one of the three adults has a job?

We need to crack down on this. The only people getting welfare who don’t work at all should be disabled or moms with kids under 12.

How many people do you think are in that situation? A couple of hundred?

You do realize welfare has a work requirement. Why is everything you post based on fake news? It is starting to be a trend.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You do have to be jesting. I do know have have known for many, many years.

Really? Who gets SSI? I am betting you have no clue without Googling!

 

[Cellblock2429]

Republicans are passing around lists of ideas to pay for Trump's new tax cuts. These include cuts to to Medicare, Medicaid, tariffs, and use taxes on people.
A complete list is noted in the article. Thoughts USMB?

House G.O.P. Floats Medicaid Cuts and More to Finance Trump’s Huge Agenda

President Trump wants a massive tax cut and immigration crackdown bill. Now Republicans must decide what to cut to help pay for it.

www.nytimes.com

Top Republicans are passing around an extensive menu of ideas to cover the cost of a massive tax cut and immigration crackdown bill. They could create a 10 percent tariff on all imports, bringing in an estimated $1.9 trillion. They could establish new work requirements for Medicaid recipients, bringing in $100 billion in savings.
They have even calculated that they could generate $20 billion by raising taxes on people who can use a free gym at the office, according to a 50-page list of options that the House Budget Committee has circulated in recent days.

Read: Draft of G.O.P. Cost Cuts for Tax Bill​

Top Republicans are passing around a 50-page list of ideas on how to cover the cost of a tax cut and immigration crackdown bill.
Read Document 50 pages


The bigger challenge for Republican leaders is trying to figure out what can pass Congress and be signed by President Trump. With slim majorities in both chambers, they are searching for the right mix of policy changes that could offset some of the costs of Mr. Trump’s most expensive proposals, placating spending hard-liners who are concerned about ballooning the government’s debt, while also maintaining the support of more centrist members who are loath to slash popular programs.

House Republicans huddled in the Capitol on Wednesday to discuss a mix of options on the table.
Complicating their task is a political challenge: Many of the cuts Republicans are contemplating target programs aimed at helping low-income Americans, all in the service of paying for the extension of tax cuts that disproportionately benefit the wealthy.
The overarching goal is to push through a behemoth bill that cuts taxes and clamps down on immigration using a process called reconciliation, which would allow Republican leaders to avoid a filibuster and move legislation through the Senate with a simple majority, even if all Democrats are opposed.
Many of the G.O.P.’s anti-spending members have said they cannot support a bill that adds significantly to the nation’s debt. But most of the major policies Mr. Trump wants included in the legislation are extremely expensive. Extending the tax cuts he signed into law in 2017 alone is expected to cost $5 trillion.
That has left Republicans casting about for ways to offset those costs. The budget panel’s menu of possibilities includes everything from major clawbacks of current policy to lower-hanging fruit. Among many others, there are proposals to repeal major health care subsidy programs established by the Affordable Care Act, put caps on Medicaid funding, and end a policy that makes employer-provided meals and lodging tax-exempt.

/—-/ Wonderful. Let get some more ideas.

 

[debbiedowner]

Another dipshit who doesn't understand SSI.

Really? Who gets SSI? I am betting you have no clue without Googling!

Yes, I do know and in my business have worked with many on SSI and SSDI. I don't have to google it.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Yes, I do know and in my business have worked with many on SSI and SSDI. I don't have to google it.

WTF is your business? Scam artist?

Tell me who gets SSI. Put up or shut up!

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Republicans are passing around lists of ideas to pay for Trump's new tax cuts. These include cuts to to Medicare, Medicaid, tariffs, and use taxes on people.
A complete list is noted in the article. Thoughts USMB?

House G.O.P. Floats Medicaid Cuts and More to Finance Trump’s Huge Agenda

President Trump wants a massive tax cut and immigration crackdown bill. Now Republicans must decide what to cut to help pay for it.

www.nytimes.com

Top Republicans are passing around an extensive menu of ideas to cover the cost of a massive tax cut and immigration crackdown bill. They could create a 10 percent tariff on all imports, bringing in an estimated $1.9 trillion. They could establish new work requirements for Medicaid recipients, bringing in $100 billion in savings.
They have even calculated that they could generate $20 billion by raising taxes on people who can use a free gym at the office, according to a 50-page list of options that the House Budget Committee has circulated in recent days.

Read: Draft of G.O.P. Cost Cuts for Tax Bill​

Top Republicans are passing around a 50-page list of ideas on how to cover the cost of a tax cut and immigration crackdown bill.
Read Document 50 pages


The bigger challenge for Republican leaders is trying to figure out what can pass Congress and be signed by President Trump. With slim majorities in both chambers, they are searching for the right mix of policy changes that could offset some of the costs of Mr. Trump’s most expensive proposals, placating spending hard-liners who are concerned about ballooning the government’s debt, while also maintaining the support of more centrist members who are loath to slash popular programs.

House Republicans huddled in the Capitol on Wednesday to discuss a mix of options on the table.
Complicating their task is a political challenge: Many of the cuts Republicans are contemplating target programs aimed at helping low-income Americans, all in the service of paying for the extension of tax cuts that disproportionately benefit the wealthy.
The overarching goal is to push through a behemoth bill that cuts taxes and clamps down on immigration using a process called reconciliation, which would allow Republican leaders to avoid a filibuster and move legislation through the Senate with a simple majority, even if all Democrats are opposed.
Many of the G.O.P.’s anti-spending members have said they cannot support a bill that adds significantly to the nation’s debt. But most of the major policies Mr. Trump wants included in the legislation are extremely expensive. Extending the tax cuts he signed into law in 2017 alone is expected to cost $5 trillion.
That has left Republicans casting about for ways to offset those costs. The budget panel’s menu of possibilities includes everything from major clawbacks of current policy to lower-hanging fruit. Among many others, there are proposals to repeal major health care subsidy programs established by the Affordable Care Act, put caps on Medicaid funding, and end a policy that makes employer-provided meals and lodging tax-exempt.

Nope. Just some leftist kooks opinion.