Right to Life (et al) is wrong??!! RE punishing women who abort

[rightnow909]

No, you start with the false premise, that the woman, and the woman alone, is the one that makes the decision to get an abortion. Awful damn convenient for a self-absorbed asshole male.

If women gave more thought to whom they are sleeping with... For one, women should NEVER be alone with a man not her husband (or family member).

Why don't the schools give our young girls THAT important information? instead of telling them that getting their gender mutilated/changed is OK and blah blah blah... all the BS children are taught... everything but what will help them in life..

sick of liberals...

Be gone, Satan

 

[jc456]

Yeah, let's punish those women that have abortions. Throw them in jail. And the men that fathered those aborted babies, let's go after them too. Demand to know who the father is, DNA tests required on aborted fetuses. And those fathers go to jail too, but just a short while. Small prison terms for both of them, maybe two years. But assess child support against them for 18 years and make them pay into a fund for adoptive parents.

And communities, it takes a community to raise a child, so if someone in the community is convicted of getting an abortion, then that entire community should be subjected to a special "abortion" penalty tax. About ten percent increase in property tax for each abortion ought to do it. Base it on zip codes, keep it local. The proceeds can be used to finance the schools.

And lets go ahead and pass a bill on the federal level stripping federal funding for Medicaid and Medicare from states that don't immediately ban abortion. I mean when MAGA supporter Boomer Bob loses his socialist Medicare, well hell, that is what he wanted all along anyway. Hell, states like New York will empty out rather quickly, while Texas, and of course Louisiana, will be inundated with Medicare beneficiaries.

Nope, we need to stop this killing. Overturn Roe v. Wade and Katy bar the door, everything is on the table.

Men have no say In this. If the man says go ahead, sure, include them, but let’s start offering options before you begin any action against a man. Come on man

 

[Dragonlady]

such is the tyranny of people who slap fake words on the words/actions of others, not caring one bit whether such words are the TRUTH

but only that they get their way (in this case, what liberals want is to be able to have all the sex they want without any responsibility for the HUMAN LIFE that may result... and so they LIE to themselves and to the whole world...

some of us are sick and tired of your **&%%$$# lies

Really. Well the rest of us are sick and tired of self righteous entitled men, telling women how to live their lives.

IT’S NOT YOUR BABY, AND YOU’RE NOT RAISING THIS CHILD. IT’S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

Your belief the women who get abortions are unfeeling, uncaring wanton women only interest in a good time is a complete fallacy.

Most are very low income married women with one or more children whose birth control failed. They will lose their jobs if they get pregnant and their families will suffer.

 

[jc456]

T’S NOT YOUR BABY, AND YOU’RE NOT RAISING THIS CHILD. IT’S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS

So are you suggesting men don’t fertilize the egg with his Sperm? You got no science huh?

 

[Dragonlady]

If women gave more thought to whom they are sleeping with... For one, women should NEVER be alone with a man not her husband (or family member).

Why don't the schools give our young girls THAT important information? instead of telling them that getting their gender mutilated/changed is OK and blah blah blah... all the BS children are taught... everything but what will help them in life..

sick of liberals...

Be gone, Satan

You’re a complete idiot. Maybe the problem isn’t the women. Maybe men should be raised to take responsibility for who THEY’RE HAVING SEX WITH???

Stop telling men nothing is ever their responsibility. That they should get all they can. And then blame women for lacking morals.

Scratch a right wing anti-abortion jerk and you find a misogynist wanting to punish women for having sex every single time.

 

[jwoodie]

I cannot do your thinking for you.

Science has proven that life begins... oh wow, whoda thunk it... at the beginning (conception)

If you cared about someone besides yourself (and whomever you love... or "love") you would CARE about the pain these babies go through when aborted... the pain their mothers go through with Post Abortion Syndrome. You would CARE that our society has been tolerating and promoting and engaging in legalized MURDER for 46 years... 63 million dead..

but all you seem to care about is having an "out" if you have sex w/ someone who gets pregnant and you don't want to marry her

Sorry, I hadn't completed my post (please reread). You make a forceful argument, but it seems more philosophical than political. I don't think human zygotes are capable of feeling pain, whether from abortion or miscarriage. Is it their souls you are more concerned about?

 

[rightnow909]

Really. Well the rest of us are sick and tired of self righteous entitled men, telling women how to live their lives.

IT’S NOT YOUR BABY, AND YOU’RE NOT RAISING THIS CHILD. IT’S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

Your belief the women who get abortions are unfeeling, uncaring wanton women only interest in a good time is a complete fallacy.

Most are very low income married women with one or more children whose birth control failed. They will lose their jobs if they get pregnant and their families will suffer.

hey, we could apply those words to other scenarios as well. How about the one w here YOU are endangered, your life that is..

say you are a young child and your mother wants to kill you.. and you run to a neighbor and scream for help

but the neighbor says

IT’S NOT YOUR LIFE, AND YOU’RE NOT RAISING YOURSELF. IT’S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

 

[rightnow909]

Sorry, I hadn't completed my post (please reread). You make a forceful argument, but it seems more philosophical than political. I don't think human zygotes are capable of feeling pain, whether from abortion or miscarriage. Is it their souls you are more concerned about?

how many times do I have to say this?

I don't care about anyone's opinions

I care about FACTS

it is human
it is alive
it is innocent of any crimes or wrongdoing

Therefore it is WRONG, immoral, evil to kill "it"

 

[Winston]

i stopped here because of those pesky false premises I alluded to above... (or just mentioned)

no one needs an abortion

it is unhealthy act for both child and mother, death being the result for one... lifelong "damage" for the other..

Your thread sucks. You are so representative of the self-absorbed, holier than thou, dumbshit, right wing pro-lifer that as this point, it a a little sick.

 

[BlindBoo]

For one, women should NEVER be alone with a man not her husband (or family member).

Welcome to the American Taliban.

 

[rightnow909]

Your thread sucks. You are so representative of the self-absorbed, holier than thou, dumbshit, right wing pro-lifer that as this point, it a a little sick.

Your post sucks. You are so representative of the self-absorbed, holier than thou, dumbshit, left wing child murderers that as this point, it is MORE THAN a little sick.

 

[Dragonlady]

So are you suggesting men don’t fertilize the egg with his Sperm? You got no science huh?

I was responding to a poster who claims society has a vested interest in the life of the fetus.

I believe the father has a say only if the couple is married but the final decision is still hers.

A woman who is divorcing her husband has the sole right to decide if she wants to continue the pregnancy. Having a baby together is an unbreakable bond. Do you want to have to deal with this man for the rest of your life, as the father of this child.

One young woman I know did NOT want this man as father to her child. He was a deadbeat cheating husband who couldn’t look after the dog properly. They were together for 3 years but she left him and never looked back.

 

[occupied]

such is the tyranny of people who slap fake words on the words/actions of others, not caring one bit whether such words are the TRUTH

but only that they get their way (in this case, what liberals want is to be able to have all the sex they want without any responsibility for the HUMAN LIFE that may result... and so they LIE to themselves and to the whole world...

some of us are sick and tired of your **&%%$$# lies

The soul rot infesting evangelicals drips from your every word.

 

[rightnow909]

I believe the father has a say only if the couple is married but the final decision is still hers.

all this "I believe" stuff

anyone still care about objective truth?

just wondering........

 

[Winston]

If women gave more thought to whom they are sleeping with... For one, women should NEVER be alone with a man not her husband (or family member).

Why don't the schools give our young girls THAT important information? instead of telling them that getting their gender mutilated/changed is OK and blah blah blah... all the BS children are taught... everything but what will help them in life..

sick of liberals...

Be gone, Satan

You total dumbfuck, then if women have all the responsibility they should be the only one's making the laws. Now I have new proposals. You have to be female to be elected to Congress, and Senate, and the Presidency, and to be a federal judge. Besides, you dumbshits are the one's that want to limit sex education to "just say know", like that worked so well for drugs. I mean damn, I know right wingers are stupid, but you are leading the pack here.

 

[jc456]

I was responding to a poster who claims society has a vested interest in the life of the fetus.

I believe the father has a say only if the couple is married but the final decision is still hers.

A woman who is divorcing her husband has the sole right to decide if she wants to continue the pregnancy. Having a baby together is an unbreakable bond. Do you want to have to deal with this man for the rest of your life, as the father of this child.

One young woman I know did NOT want this man as father to her child. He was a deadbeat cheating husband who couldn’t look after the dog properly. They were together for 3 years but she left him and never looked back.

Nope, you said that men don’t create babies! Canadian, go get an education

 

[Winston]

I was responding to a poster who claims society has a vested interest in the life of the fetus.

I believe the father has a say only if the couple is married but the final decision is still hers.

A woman who is divorcing her husband has the sole right to decide if she wants to continue the pregnancy. Having a baby together is an unbreakable bond. Do you want to have to deal with this man for the rest of your life, as the father of this child.

One young woman I know did NOT want this man as father to her child. He was a deadbeat cheating husband who couldn’t look after the dog properly. They were together for 3 years but she left him and never looked back.

Not sure you are completely right here. My first wife left me and I didn't fight for the kids. Three months later she was pregnant with another man's child. In almost every state, that is grounds for an unfit mother and I immediately filed for custody. But I took it a step further, I asked the court to put a restraining order on her preventing her from getting an abortion, and I filed for custody of my daughters sibling. I won, in no small part because the father testified on my behalf. My daughter is 32 now and she brings so much joy, not only into my life, but into the lives of her 5 sisters and brothers.

Don't think being the single father of three girls, the oldest a mere six years old, is easy. And now perhaps you understand my utter disdain for jackasses that aren't willing to even part with a few tax dollars to prevent abortion squawking about making it illegal. You stop abortion the way I did, one child at a time.

 

[jc456]

You’re a complete idiot. Maybe the problem isn’t the women. Maybe men should be raised to take responsibility for who THEY’RE HAVING SEX WITH

You’re Still uneducated Canadian. It’s the woman’s choice who she has sex with, except in rape. Fk, go get an education

 

[jc456]

Not sure you are completely right here. My first wife left me and I didn't fight for the kids. Three months later she was pregnant with another man's child. In almost every state, that is grounds for an unfit mother and I immediately filed for custody. But I took it a step further, I asked the court to put a restraining order on her preventing her from getting an abortion, and I filed for custody of my daughters sibling. I won, in no small part because the father testified on my behalf. My daughter is 32 now and she brings so much joy, not only into my life, but into the lives of her 5 sisters and brothers.

Don't think being the single father of three girls, the oldest a mere six years old, is easy. And now perhaps you understand my utter disdain for jackasses that aren't willing to even part with a few tax dollars to prevent abortion squawking about making it illegal. You stop abortion the way I did, one child at a time.

Canadian is demented

 

[rightnow909]

You’re a complete idiot. Maybe the problem isn’t the women. Maybe men should be raised to take responsibility for who THEY’RE HAVING SEX WITH???

Stop telling men nothing is ever their responsibility. That they should get all they can. And then blame women for lacking morals.

Scratch a right wing anti-abortion jerk and you find a misogynist wanting to punish women for having sex every single time.

you obviously haven't read many of my woman-defending posts..

but alas.. u don't care anyway...

u just like to hear yourself talk... or whatever..

you just want to have that "out" i spoke of... you know... you have a wild night with some chick but she gets pregnant... You want abortion to always be there to bail you out...