Republicans offer fraudulent tax reform, the alleged FairTax

[francoHFW]

Only on irregular people? Who decides who's regular and who's not?

The rich makeover $400,000 a year, ignoramus.

 

[francoHFW]

You do realize that colleges set their tuition fees, right? One of the main reasons they're so high is the government giving out loans to just about anyone.

It is way past time to tax the rich again and invest in America and Americans again, ignoramus dupe. Reagan and the Republicans have been cutting federal and state aid since the 60s, that's how he got it his start, screwing over students at the University of California....

 

[Zincwarrior]

I think it's time to investigate the Biden family dogs

 

[Orangecat]

The rich makeover $400,000 a year,

Why, because you say so?

ignoramus.

Fuckstain.

 

[Orangecat]

It is way past time to tax the rich again and invest in America and Americans again, ignoramus dupe. Reagan and the Republicans have been cutting federal and state aid since the 60s, that's how he got it his start, screwing over students at the University of California....

You’re such a pathetic and petty little lickspittle, kid.

 

[DudleySmith]

The FairTax is a stupid idea

They never apply it to stock and bond sales, those get exempted, for instance. It's just another scam, always has been. There are also other 'exemptions', for stuff the bottom 50% can't afford.

 

[DudleySmith]

It's more than a stupid idea. It is cleverly designed to create a new 23% tax an articles of consumption, while keeping alive Congress' power to lay and collect taxes calculated from profits, gains, salaries, wages, tips and other lawfully realized "incomes".

It's designed to massively increase tax rates on those who already have to spend most or all of their income on basics. If it were really 'fair' Republicans wouldn't be peddling it.

 

[DudleySmith]

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I wouldn't know what you did before that post.

 

[DudleySmith]

According to my math, all the Feds need to do is ADD a 3% or 4% Fed sales tax instead of turning the tax world upside-down.

A new sales tax eliminates the fight over where to cut spending.

lol you mean like how legalizing pot has eliminated illegal pot markets? lol sure.

 

[francoHFW]

You’re such a pathetic and petty little lickspittle, kid.

You got nothing but stupid talking points and ridiculous insults, super dupe.

 

[Orangecat]

You got nothing but stupid talking points

"Tax the rich!"

and ridiculous insults, super dupe.

"Super dupe."
Such irony.
You're not intelligent enough to play this game.

 

[BackAgain]

SEE House Bill Would Reform Tax Code, Eliminate IRS

Saturday January 14, 2023



What Rep. Buddy Carter, R-Ga., and Rep. Kat Cammack, R-Fla., avoid telling their constituents is, the FairTax, which they are trying to shove down the throats of the American people . .

• creates an entirely new tax,
• creates two new tax collecting agencies, an “Excise Tax Bureau” and the “Sales Tax Bureau", in addition to keeping the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms alive which will also be collecting taxes.
• keeps Congress’ power to lay and collect excise taxes calculated from incomes alive,
• requires taxpayers to file Fair Tax returns twelve times a year,
• requires ordinary working people to register with government in order to sell the property each has in their own labor,
• requires ordinary people to become tax collectors for government.
• requires taxpayers to keep whatever records Congress may dream up,
• and creates a new entitlement, the Family Consumption Allowance [a monthly government check sent to every family in the U.S.] that would become another wedge issue used during election time to buy votes.

Why on earth would any “conservative” politician support this rope-a-dope proposal which enlarges and strengthens the federal government’s iron grip around the American people’s necks?
If Rep. Buddy Carter, R-Ga., and Rep. Kat Cammack, R-Fla., are really determined to offer meaningful federal tax reform, they would introduce the FAIR SHARE BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT which begins as follows:

“SECTION 1. The Sixteenth Amendment is hereby repealed, and Congress is henceforth forbidden to lay any tax or burden calculated from sales, profits, gains, interest, salaries, wages, tips, inheritances or any other lawfully realized money.


NOTE: these words would return us to our founding father’s original tax plan as they intended it to operate! They would also end the experiment with allowing Congress to lay and collect taxes calculated from lawfully earned “incomes” which now oppresses America‘s economic engine and robs the bread which working people have earned when selling the property each has in their own labor, not to mention they would end federal taxation being used as a political weapon to harass and attack political opponents!

JWK

When Federal Reserve Notes were made a legal tender in violation of our Constitution, and a direct un-apportioned tax was imposed upon the people without their consent, America’s free enterprise, free market system was subjugated, and the tools of oppression were made available to some very immoral and nefariously evil people

A fair tax, a flat tax or a national sales tax absolutely preconditioned upon the ratification of the REPEAL of the 16th Amendment (the one that has allowed for the federal income tax) works for me.

 

[francoHFW]

"Tax the rich!"

"Super dupe."
Such irony.
You're not intelligent enough to play this game.

Actually those are the most important issues in politics the last 20 years. This is a damn giveaway to the rich mess and is supported by brainwashed morons....

 

[Orangecat]

Actually those are the most important issues in politics the last 20 years. This is a damn giveaway to the rich mess and is supported by brainwashed morons....

Only brainwashed morons think lowering a person’s tax is the same as giving them something. You have the mindset of a slave, kid.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Only brainwashed morons think lowering a person’s tax is the same as giving them something. You have the mindset of a slave, kid.

In the minds of leftists, all money belongs to government, and what they allow us to keep is a gift from them to us.

They want all these government goodies but want somebody else to pay for them. When they don't, they are not paying their fair share.

"A liberal believes that if you create money, you are not entitled to it, but if you want money, you are."
Ken Blackwell

 

[DudleySmith]

A fair tax, a flat tax or a national sales tax absolutely preconditioned upon the ratification of the REPEAL of the 16th Amendment (the one that has allowed for the federal income tax) works for me.

The 'resolution' the GOP is calling for a vote on isn't binding and won't become law, it's just posturing, for one. Taxing food and health care at 30%+ is just moronic, but for some reason most of the GOP shills here seem completely oblivious to the obvious. As for 'getting rid of the IRS N Stuff', they are going to create two new big giant tax bureaucracies, with even more direct power over businesses, especially those who aren't large enough to buy protection from GOP pols. All the lawyers are practically fainting over the jurisdiction wars that will break out, it's far more lucrative than even the new cop baiting industry all the hood rats are hoping to cash in on.

And, nobody is going to repeal the 16th, especially not Republicans; they invented income taxes in this country, after all, it's one of their favorite money makers and fund raising gimmicks, selling tax breaks and govt. subsidies to big corporations and has been for going on 170 years now.

 

[francoHFW]

In the minds of leftists, all money belongs to government, and what they allow us to keep is a gift from them to us.

They want all these government goodies but want somebody else to pay for them. When they don't, they are not paying their fair share.

"A liberal believes that if you create money, you are not entitled to it, but if you want money, you are."
Ken Blackwell

the rich have been getting away with murder since Reagan dropped the top tax rate from 70% to 28%. Regular people are getting screwed and paying way too much in taxes. And what you get out of that is the worst inequality, worst upward mobility, worst homelessness ever anywhere by far. Change the damn channel, babbling idiots....

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

the rich have been getting away with murder since Reagan dropped the top tax rate from 70% to 28%. Regular people are getting screwed and paying way too much in taxes. And what you get out of that is the worst inequality, worst upward mobility, worst homelessness ever anywhere by far. Change the damn channel, babbling idiots....

Thanks for that Communist point of view "If you don't take away most of the money from the rich, they are getting away with murder."

 

[francoHFW]

Thanks for that Communist point of view "If you don't take away most of the money from the rich, they are getting away with murder."

The Ronald Reagan GOP is the only political party in the modern world that agrees with the ridiculous mess we have. Flat taxes are a giveaway to the rich. And that is basically what we have now. Great job! Keep voting for the greedy liars. unbelievable.

 

[francoHFW]

Thanks for that Communist point of view "If you don't take away most of the money from the rich, they are getting away with murder."

when I come out for dictatorship, I'll tell you about it, brainwashed functional moron. You people are already Nazis, you wouldn't mind martial law under trump to save yourself from emails and pedophilia. Poor America.