Utah Targeting VPN Users Trying to Avoid Invasive Online Identification "Age Verification", Bu-Bye USMB

[frigidweirdo]

You think the government can’t find out who people are on message boards?




He’s not silencing them. They are free to report anything they want. There is no right to be in the White House press room and if he thinks news agencies are going to report him inaccurately, or unfairly, he can prevent them from being there.

if Fox or a right wing news agency didn’t same thing to a democrat president and he removed them, I’d say the same thing.




Agreed, and if they harass someone, then that can be dealt with as it is intentional and malicious.

That would have a negative impact on someone.

Harassment is against the law.




Who decides this? Republicans? Democrats?



Well, I don’t control what other people do. As I said, incitement is a slippery slope slope with me because at the end of the day, it’s just a suggestion, the person hearing it has full capacity to not listen to them, but I get in the heat of the moment it can cause an emotional response so, who knows.

So I could see incitement as being something they couldn’t charge people over.





And opening that can of worms will lead to those things being encroached upon more and more as time goes on.

what one finds to be “harassing” today might be different than what someone finds harassing 10 years from now

Yes, I think the government can't find out people who don't want to be found. They couldn't find me.

But the point of this thread is about the government setting up a system of age verification. It's about the government putting in place something that forces you to identify yourself or not.

Yes, he's silencing them. They can report whatever they want, but they can't ask questions of their own government. The questions being asked are ones the government wants. Which is not really what happens in a free society.


Laws exist and many laws step on fine lines. That's the job of Congress to write good laws.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Yes, I think the government can't find out people who don't want to be found. They couldn't find me.

Are you sure? How do you know they don’t know where you are?

But the point of this thread is about the government setting up a system of age verification. It's about the government putting in place something that forces you to identify yourself or not.

Are we talking about breaking laws here, or posting on internet message boards?

Yes, he's silencing them. They can report whatever they want, but they can't ask questions of their own government. The questions being asked are ones the government wants. Which is not really what happens in a free society.

Nah he’s not silencing them, they can still submit questions in writing. Trump is just being a big baby because some people wouldn’t call it the “gulf of America”

Didn’t Clinton similarly ban people from the press room?

Laws exist and many laws step on fine lines. That's the job of Congress to write good laws.

I don’t want congress writing laws on what speech is acceptable….have you read 1984??

 

[frigidweirdo]

Are you sure? How do you know they don’t know where you are?



Are we talking about breaking laws here, or posting on internet message boards?




Nah he’s not silencing them, they can still submit questions in writing. Trump is just being a big baby because some people wouldn’t call it the “gulf of America”

Didn’t Clinton similarly ban people from the press room?



I don’t want congress writing laws on what speech is acceptable….have you read 1984??

I know because I know. You don't need to know.

We're talking about breaking the law while talking on the internet.

Yes, he's trying to silence them. It's not that effective, but that's what he's TRYING to do.

Same as why he keeps suing media outlets.

I don't know, did Clinton ban people. Your argument, make it.

You say you don't want them writing laws on what speech is acceptable, and yet you say certain things are not acceptable.

Should people be able to write "Let's go to that place and burn it down with all the people inside"?