Republicans block bill to extend expiring health insurance subsidies

[Winco]

Good. the govt needs to be COMPLETELY out of healthcare.
1. They have no authority
2. All they do is make it worse
3. Healthcare is not a right. When you have to steal from someone else to do it, it isnt a right.

Agreed.

Where is the PLAN ?

Trump has had 5 years, WTF is the problem?
Just present SOME ******* PLAN, besides the "Concept"

What part about government no longer dictating what healthcare we can have or afford or what we will be allowed to have or what we are required to have in healthcare however unreasonable did you not understand?

That should be the plan. So far it pretty much is.

Since the (R) own the entire Government, how about the Government just says....... "Yep.....we are out on ALL activity of Healthcare."

Sound about right, Foxfyre ?

WTF exactly Foxfyre do you want?
Spell it out.

 

[progressive hunter]

People like not dying because they are not rich like Elon Musk. I know, its so annoying.

I am not rich like elon and I am doing just fine,, in fact I am on the poverty scale,,

 

[task0778]

Democrats have warned of catastrophic healthcare cost increases if the subsidies expire, and have accused Republicans of trying to “gut the healthcare of everyday Americans.” However, an analysis by the Paragon Health Institute published Tuesday shows that the expiration of these subsidies accounts for only 3.3% of projected 2026 premiums.

“Expiration of the Biden COVID Credits is not the primary driver of skyrocketing ACA [Affordable Care Act] plan premiums and overall unaffordability, according to the insurers themselves,” the institute wrote. “The real drivers are the same structural flaws that have plagued Obamacare since 2014 and rising health care costs.”

The subsidies, known as premium tax credits, were created under the ACA to help people purchase insurance on public exchanges if they lacked other coverage. Initially, these credits were limited to households earning 100% to 400% of the federal poverty level.

However, former President Joe Biden signed two laws — the American Rescue Plan and the Inflation Reduction Act — that removed the upper-income cap and increased the subsidies to cover a higher share of premiums and, in some cases, reduced certain households’ premiums to zero.

Democrats, who passed the subsidy expansions without a single Republican vote, originally set them to expire at the end of 2025. They are now linking the expected premium hikes to the lapse of those very subsidies and faulting Republicans for letting them expire on the timeline Democrats established.
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According to Paragon, the 2025 benchmark premium for a typical ACA enrollee — a 50-year-old earning 200% of the federal poverty level — is $8,326. Premiums are projected to rise 20% in 2026 to $9,991. Of the $1,665 increase, just $333, or 3.3% stems from the expiration of the COVID-era subsidies.

The remaining $1,332 of premium growth is due to factors such as higher medical utilization, inflation, healthcare consolidation and rising specialty drug costs, according to Paragon.

New Data Completely Destroy Democrats' Shutdown Talking Point

New data from the Paragon Health Institute challenge Democrats’ central claim in the ongoing government funding standoff.

dailycaller.com

This is what happens when you pass a large spending program on a one-party vote. The other party has no stake or ownership and so of course they're going to fight it tooth and nail. I do not know what the best course of action is, but IMHO this ain't it.

 

[Zincwarrior]

I am not rich like elon and I am doing just fine,, in fact I am on the poverty scale,,

Medicare amirite?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Agreed.

Where is the PLAN ?

Trump has had 5 years, WTF is the problem?
Just present SOME ******* PLAN, besides the "Concept"

Since the (R) own the entire Government, how about the Government just says....... "Yep.....we are out on ALL activity of Healthcare."

Sound about right, Foxfyre ?

WTF exactly Foxfyre do you want?
Spell it out.

the dems just voted down the republican plan I notices the author of this thread didnt include that tidbit.

 

[TNHarley]

Agreed.

Where is the PLAN ?

Trump has had 5 years, WTF is the problem?
Just present SOME ******* PLAN, besides the "Concept"

Since the (R) own the entire Government, how about the Government just says....... "Yep.....we are out on ALL activity of Healthcare."

Sound about right, Foxfyre ?

WTF exactly Foxfyre do you want?
Spell it out.

Trump is a liar and a dumbass. I doubt he has a plan.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Trump is a liar and a dumbass. I doubt he has a plan.

Republican plan was just voted down by the dems retard.

 

[Zincwarrior]

the dems just voted down the republican plan I notices the author of this thread didnt include that tidbit.

PLease cite the Republican plan.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

PLease cite the Republican plan.

nope it is in the news look it up yourself, if the op were honest, he would have included it in this thread.

 

[Foxfyre]

Agreed.

Where is the PLAN ?

Trump has had 5 years, WTF is the problem?
Just present SOME ******* PLAN, besides the "Concept"

Since the (R) own the entire Government, how about the Government just says....... "Yep.....we are out on ALL activity of Healthcare."

Sound about right, Foxfyre ?

WTF exactly Foxfyre do you want?
Spell it out.

Because good government does its best to do no harm and doesn't put ideology ahead of that principle.

 

[TNHarley]

Republican plan was just voted down by the dems retard.

Oh trump came up with that, did he? Dumbass of course he didnt. In fact, he stated, "I like that idea"
Trump has no plan. You were conned, you know it, and you still defend him. The cult runs deep.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Question, would the democrats vote for any other healthcare Bill
from the republicans? Or is it just extending the subsidies to be considered?

There are some good alternatives that would work,
and with bipartisan input and support.

This is the result of Republicans' unwarranted hostility to the ACA, and millions of Americans will suffer as a consequence.

 

[Zincwarrior]

nope it is in the news look it up yourself, if the op were honest, he would have included it in this thread.

So there isn't one, else you could cite it. Bills and their voting history are public record. Please cite it.

 

[Hafar1014]

What it says on the tin. Republicans have blocked the bill to extend Obamacare subsidies. Subsidies expire this month. No alternative health care proposal was passed.

Republicans block bill to extend expiring health insurance subsidies​

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5644455-democratic-bill-health-insurance-subsidies/

Senate Republicans on Thursday blocked a motion to advance a Democrat-drafted bill to extend enhanced health insurance premium subsidies that are due to expire at the end of 2025, tax credits that Democrats say are needed to keep premiums from rising by double digits next year.

The legislation, which needed 60 votes to advance, failed by a vote of 51 to 48.

Republican Sens. Susan Collins (Maine) and Lisa Murkowski (Alaska) voted for the Democratic plan to extend the enhanced health insurance tax credits, even though both lawmakers have called for reforms to the program. Sen. Dan Sullivan (R-Alaska), who is up for reelection next year, and Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) also voted for the Democratic proposal.

The unusual vote on a Democratic-crafted health care plan while Republicans control the Senate was set up by a deal Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-S.D.) struck with centrist Democrats to end the recent 43-day government shutdown.

The proposal, unveiled by Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer (N.Y.), would have extended the enhanced subsidies, which were first enacted during the COVID-19 pandemic, another three years.

“Our bill is the last train to leave the station. After this, we will not have time to try again before premiums shoot through the roof next year,” Schumer said on the Senate floor before the vote.

Schumer touted the Democratic plan as a “simple extension of these health care tax credits.”

Correct it doesnt fix the problem

 

[Hafar1014]

This is the result of Republicans' unwarranted hostility to the ACA, and millions of Americans will suffer as a consequence.

Not the ones ripping off the system

 

[Zincwarrior]

Correct it doesnt fix the problem

COngress needs to fix the problem.

 

[Meister]

This is the result of Republicans' unwarranted hostility to the ACA, and millions of Americans will suffer as a consequence.

No, this is the result of Obamacare destined to fail from the beginning.
When the insurance companies created the Bill, what could have possibly gone wrong?

 

[Meister]

The Concepts of a plan...... <<<<<< that one.
Let's see your Concept.


trump had 4 years to repeal the ACA. Right?
What went wrong?

The never ever Trump drum beat.

 

[dblack]

Republicans have no intention of repealing ACA. They just light to stir up shit when "business" is slow on K Street.

 

[progressive hunter]

Medicare amirite?

paid into,,
and it should be ran by the states not the feds as per the constitution,,