Republicans are the most fiscally irresponsible, it's not a close call...

[Big Black Dog]

Wouldn't it be nice if we could ship all the Democrats off to some distant planet so they could live in a world of their own? Wonder which one of them would work so he could support the rest of them?

 

[Intense]

Wouldn't it be nice if we could ship all the Democrats off to some distant planet so they could live in a world of their own? Wonder which one of them would work so he could support the rest of them?

Only if they take the NeoCon's with them.

 

[The T]

Wouldn't it be nice if we could ship all the Democrats off to some distant planet so they could live in a world of their own? Wonder which one of them would work so he could support the rest of them?

Liberia comes to mind since it was created for a purpose anyway.

 

[The T]

Actually it really took off when W. Bush decided to spend like our money was burning a hole in his pocket. The Iraq War and tax breaks for millionaires being two of the biggest drain holes. Both of which, many Democrats opposed...

Only Any POTUS signs a spending bill...but the Congress actually controls the purse strings.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

The Republicans are responsible for the Debt. They're the most fiscally irresponsible and it's not a close call...


Obama spending at the beginning of his Presidency was a necessary evil according to virtually all economists, including the most fiscally conservative to avoid a total collapse of the economy. When Obama walked in the door we were already in the midst of the Great Recession, the worst economic situation since the Great Depression. Stimulus through spending was absolutely necessary.

Obama's spending was necessary to prevent absolute meltdown with the likes of AIG, Citigroup, GM, and Chrysler going out of business. He's not fiscally irresponsible. He inherited a total ****ing mess.

... your notion of the Democrat's being the irresponsible debtors will certainly go by the wayside.

I see what your saying......it really took off once the the democrats took control of both the Senate and Congress. Good find, McDonk.

California is drowning under the biggest DEBT of all the states in the union. Nancy Pelosi, a Democratic representative of California, was chosen as Speaker of the House after their win for control in 2006. Is it any big surprise that our own Congress has decided to follow the same direction of endless spending? Has anyone else been able to connect the dots? It would appear the Democrats where not too bright to put a representative of a state (that has shown so much fiscal irresponsibility) as the head, representative, and example for the Democratic Congress to follow.

 

[Rozman]

Why would the Dems care.When the you know what hits the fan they blame Bush,that carried them for two years now.When they want to use the good old change up they go with it's the Republicans fault.
Typical Liberal mindset.It will never be Obama's fault,it will never be the Dems fault.The Liberal media puts that out there and the sheep follow it.

 

[kyzr]

Why would the Dems care. When the you know what hits the fan they blame Bush, that carried them for two years now. When they want to use the good old change up they go with "it's the Republicans fault".
Typical Liberal mindset. It will never be Obama's fault, it will never be the Dems fault. The Liberal media puts that out there and the sheep follow it.

Did you happen to notice the election last month? What sheep are you referring to? Whichever party doesn't get the hint that we want fiscal responsibility, not reckless spending, or the voters will keep pruning DC assholes in 2012...

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Obama's three trillion in new debt accomplished nothing. He spent more and faster than anyone in the history of the planet. Now he wants Republicans to pay for it.

....As if that's an option......

 

[Mr. Shaman]

The Republicans are responsible for the Debt. They're the most fiscally irresponsible and it's not a close call...


Obama spending at the beginning of his Presidency was a necessary evil according to virtually all economists, including the most fiscally conservative to avoid a total collapse of the economy. When Obama walked in the door we were already in the midst of the Great Recession, the worst economic situation since the Great Depression. Stimulus through spending was absolutely necessary.

Obama's spending was necessary to prevent absolute meltdown with the likes of AIG, Citigroup, GM, and Chrysler going out of business. He's not fiscally irresponsible. He inherited a total ****ing mess.

... your notion of the Democrat's being the irresponsible debtors will certainly go by the wayside.

I see what your saying......it really took off once the the democrats took control of both the Senate and Congress. Good find, McDonk.

California is drowning under the biggest DEBT of all the states in the union.

....ANOTHER Phil Gramm success-story!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

​

 

[Common Sense]

The Republicans are responsible for the Debt. They're the most fiscally irresponsible and it's not a close call...

The Maddow Blog - Chart: National debt, by president

Obama spending at the beginning of his Presidency was a necessary evil according to virtually all economists, including the most fiscally conservative to avoid a total collapse of the economy. When Obama walked in the door we were already in the midst of the Great Recession, the worst economic situation since the Great Depression. Stimulus through spending was absolutely necessary.


Here's a graph of President's Truman through Bush:

Obama's Summit and the Myth of Republican Fiscal Responsibility | Crooks and Liars

Again, Obama's spending was necessary to prevent absolute meltdown with the likes of AIG, Citigroup, GM, and Chrysler going out of business. He's not fiscally irresponsible. He inherited a total ****ing mess.

If you're able to read these two graphs, your notion of the Democrat's being the irresponsible debtors will certainly go by the wayside.

I see what your saying......it really took off once the the democrats took control of both the Senate and Congress. Good find, McDonk.

he he he

so republicans dont have to take any responsibility for the debt? every time someone posts a comment about how Bush drove up the debt, the response is that the dems controlled congress. they actually didnt control congress until 2007, so what about all the years before that?

when we then go back and talk about clinton creating a surplus, you always come back with well it was a republican controlled congress.

this is stupid, you take credit for the good and place blame for all the bad, like youre never wrong. take some ownership for once.

 

[Toro]

I would have agreed with you that the Republicans had been more irresponsible from 1976 through 2008 on a national level, but it is pretty hard to argue that the Democrats and Obama have been any better than anyone over the past 32 years.

Also, Republicans tend to be more responsible on the state level than Democrats.

 

[Meister]

I see what your saying......it really took off once the the democrats took control of both the Senate and Congress. Good find, McDonk.

he he he

so republicans dont have to take any responsibility for the debt? every time someone posts a comment about how Bush drove up the debt, the response is that the dems controlled congress. they actually didnt control congress until 2007, so what about all the years before that?

when we then go back and talk about clinton creating a surplus, you always come back with well it was a republican controlled congress.

this is stupid, you take credit for the good and place blame for all the bad, like youre never wrong. take some ownership for once.

I never said that.....I said it really took off once the dems had Congress and the Senate. Both parties spend too much, hence the Tea Party movement. Which both parties squirmed about...have to say it seemed that the dems were much more upset about them.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

Well any time a party doesn't believe tax cuts doesn't have to be and or should not be paid for that's a sure sign of fiscal irresponsibility.

 

[Epsilon Delta]

The Republicans are responsible for the Debt. They're the most fiscally irresponsible and it's not a close call...

The Maddow Blog - Chart: National debt, by president

Obama spending at the beginning of his Presidency was a necessary evil according to virtually all economists, including the most fiscally conservative to avoid a total collapse of the economy. When Obama walked in the door we were already in the midst of the Great Recession, the worst economic situation since the Great Depression. Stimulus through spending was absolutely necessary.


Here's a graph of President's Truman through Bush:

Obama's Summit and the Myth of Republican Fiscal Responsibility | Crooks and Liars

Again, Obama's spending was necessary to prevent absolute meltdown with the likes of AIG, Citigroup, GM, and Chrysler going out of business. He's not fiscally irresponsible. He inherited a total ****ing mess.

If you're able to read these two graphs, your notion of the Democrat's being the irresponsible debtors will certainly go by the wayside.

Didn't you get the memo? Republicans only care about deficits when there's a Democratic president.


Kinda like the Democrats with war.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

In a rare and frank interview, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke talks to "60 Minutes" correspondent Scott Pelley about the troubled economy and the measures the central bank has taken to improve it for a segment to be broadcast this Sunday, Dec. 5, at 7 p.m. ET/PT.

 

[The T]

Well any time a party doesn't believe tax cuts doesn't have to be and or should not be paid for that's a sure sign of fiscal irresponsibility.

The payment for the subsequent influx on income by the FED should never be met with spending more than what is coming in. And YES...Tax cuts and the ensuing commerce DO bring in more revenues...

But yet you seem not to grasp this basic idea...and yet seem to want 'Payment'...and yet won't CUT spending by the same token.

WHY is that?

 

[txlonghorn]

Actually it really took off when W. Bush decided to spend like our money was burning a hole in his pocket. The Iraq War and tax breaks for millionaires being two of the biggest drain holes. Both of which, many Democrats opposed...

Yeah...we know...those poor democrats didn't have a leg to stand on...until they gained control...but did they change anything?

Uhh....no.

Did it keep GWB from being re-elected?

Uhh...no.

But you keep blaming Bush...even now...2 years after he's out of the WH...Hell, if it makes you feel better, then by all means, keep blaming him even after Obama is handed his walking papers after only ONE term. For God's sake, we all know Mr. Obama will keep blaming Bush....and anyone else he can find to point a f*#@ing finger at.

 

[jeffrockit]

I see what your saying......it really took off once the the democrats took control of both the Senate and Congress. Good find, McDonk.

he he he

so republicans dont have to take any responsibility for the debt? every time someone posts a comment about how Bush drove up the debt, the response is that the dems controlled congress. they actually didnt control congress until 2007, so what about all the years before that?

when we then go back and talk about clinton creating a surplus, you always come back with well it was a republican controlled congress.

this is stupid, you take credit for the good and place blame for all the bad, like youre never wrong. take some ownership for once.

The famous Clinton surplus. Now for reality,
The Bureau of the Public Debt:
9/30/1987 Reagan/Democrat Congress
$2,350,276,890,953.00
9/30/1988 Reagan/Democrat Congress
$2,602,337,712,041.16 +$252,060,821,088.16
9/30/1989 Bush/Democrat Congress
$2,857,430,960,187.32 +$255,093,248146.16
9/30/1990 Bush/Democrat Congress
$3,233,313,451,777.25 +$375,882,491,589.93
9/30/1991 Bush/Democrat Congress
$3,665,303,351,697.03 +$431,989,899,919.78
9/30/1992 Bush/Democrat Congress
$4,064,620,655,521.66 +$399,317,303,824.63
9/30/1993 Clinton/Democrat Congress
$4,411,488,883,139.38 +$346,868,227,617.72
9/30/1994 Clinton/Democrat Congress
$4,692,749,910,013.32 +$281,261,026,873.94
9/30/1995 Clinton/Republican Congress
$4,973,982,900,709.39 +$281,232,990,696.07
9/30/1996 Clinton/Republican Congress
$5,224,810,939,135.73 +$250,828,038,426.34
9/30/1997 Clinton/Republican Congress
$5,413,146,011,397.34 +$188,335,072,261.61
9/30/1998 Clinton/Republican Congress
$5,526,193,008,897.62 +$113,046,997,500.28
9/30/1999 Clinton/Republican Congress
$5,656,270,901,615.43 +$130,077,892,717.81
9/30/2000 Clinton/Republican Congress
$5,674,178,209,886.86 +$17,907,308,271.43
9/30/2001 Bush/Republican Congress
$5,807,463,412,200.06 +$133,285,202,313.20
9/30/2002 Bush/Republican Congress
$6,228,235,965,597.16 +$420,772,553,397.10
9/30/2003 Bush/Republican Congress
$6,783,231,062,743.62 +$554,995,097,146.46
9/30/2004 Bush/Republican Congress
$7,379,052,696,330.32 +$595,821,633,586.70
3/08/2005 Bush/Republican Congress
$7,746,290,500,431.39 +$367,237,804,101.07

Do you see that never, not once, not EVER during the Clinton years did we decrease the debt of the United States.
We ran a deficit EVERY single year and increased the public debt. The budget may have shown a surplus on paper, but after you add in supplemental spending packages, interest on the existing debt (which is part of the budget) and other after budget expenditures you can see that EVERY year we ran a deficit.
The Surplus Fallacy - American Conservative Politics

 

[Common Sense]

Yeah and a conservative website is going to tell the whole truth.

FactCheck.org: During the Clinton administration was the federal budget balanced? Was the federal deficit erased?

I'd much rather trust this information. And yes there was a surplus in tax revenue. The deficit was not eliminated tho.

Read the bottom of the article to understand the difference between the national debt and the national deficit. There is a difference

 

[Si modo]

Maddow is supposed to be bright and she correlates spending to Presidents?

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States:

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

To establish post offices and post roads;

To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;

To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

To provide and maintain a navy;

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;—And

To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.​

[Emphasis added]
Article 1, Section 8

Go figure what "bright" means to some Democrats.