Mitt Romney has written an editorial. It should prompt a national discussion. It won't.

[AntonToo]

I want it all fixed, diknose. That's all. It isn't that hard. 12 yrs of obiden + Flu + shutdown + stolen 2020 did long lasting practically unrepairable damages. $28T wasted lost or stolen since.

They (political hacks) know that. That is why they stole all they could 21-24. They can't fix it (too stupid, too corrupted) so they take now, prepare for the collapse. You caused it.

Thank God for President Trump (the idea man) trying to save it.

Oh great, I only have one question left then:

Do you now support a tax-raises-for-spending-cuts compromise?

See if you can clearly answer it THIS TIME.

 

[Marchimedes]

Do you now support a tax-raises-for-spending-cuts compromise?

No.

 

[martybegan]

It represented a threat to the nation.

They fired the people who take care of the nuclear bombs, the people responsible for food safety and medical device reviews, hell they shit-canned most of the GSA.

No links, of course.

 

[martybegan]

FAA warning after THREE passenger jets in panic to avoid Musk rocket

When an air controller told a pilots they would have to declare an emergency to land at San Juan, they responded: 'In that case we declare emergency: Mayday. Mayday. Mayday.'

www.dailymail.co.uk

He is about to get people killed.

Ok, Neo-luddite moron.

 

[Marener]

Who does? You don't want to decrease yours, but it is ok if mine decreases. Typical Democrat.

How do you know what’ll happen to my standard of living?

The impact of tax increases on poor people is going to be dramatically different than on you.

 

[SweetTea]

How do you know what’ll happen to my standard of living?

The impact of tax increases on poor people is going to be dramatically different than on you.

Yes, the impact will be greater. The impact of high gas prices is greater on poor people. Should we give them a discount? Where does it stop? Sorry, but such is life. You live in an idealistic fantasy world.

 

[Marener]

Yes, the impact will be greater. The impact of high gas prices is greater on poor people. Should we give them a discount? Where does it stop? Sorry, but such is life. You live in an idealistic fantasy world.

Gas prices are set by the private sector. Tax rates are set by the government. We've always had a progressive tax system and always will.

There's nothing "idealistic fantasy" about progressive tax rates. Your first tactic was to use scare tactics to say that this proposal would be catastrophic. Now you're just whining about not being able to afford quite as much of your inflated lifestyle.

 

[SweetTea]

Gas prices are set by the private sector. Tax rates are set by the government. We've always had a progressive tax system and always will.

There's nothing "idealistic fantasy" about progressive tax rates. Your first tactic was to use scare tactics to say that this proposal would be catastrophic. Now you're just whining about not being able to afford quite as much of your inflated lifestyle.

You think like a spoiled, entitled child. If people like you are able to vote themselves money from others, the country is doomed.

 

[Marener]

You think like a spoiled, entitled child. If people like you are able to vote themselves money from others, the country is doomed.

Well, your thinking has lead to $38 trillion in debt, so who has actually been trying to doom this country?

I think your priorities are all screwed up.

I'm worried about $38 trillion in debt. You're worried about being able to afford a fancier car and a bigger house.

 

[leftwinger]

Oh great, I only have one question left then:

Do you now support a tax-raises-for-spending-cuts compromise?

See if you can clearly answer it THIS TIME.

Yes, Always was. All for it. Why didn't 12 years of Obiden do Anything about it?

Fix the fraud. Fix the deficit. Trump tries, Obiden people days LIE. Hey if you stop $0.5T in waste fraud and stolen, you are 1/2 way there! Jail your criminals. Yes. I want it all.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Oh great, I only have one question left then:

Do you now support a tax-raises-for-spending-cuts compromise?

See if you can clearly answer it THIS TIME.

The Dems tried that with Reagan and then never cut the spending.

 

[AntonToo]

Yes, Always was. All for it. Why didn't 12 years of Obiden do Anything about it?

...because tax-cut-cult Republicans rejected the compromise and Democrats never got to supermajority to pass it.

Grand bargain (United States, 2011) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Inside Story of Obama and Boehner’s Second Failed Grand Bargain

Late last Sunday morning, House Speaker John Boehner and his No. 2, majority leader Eric Cantor, found themselves in White House Chief of Staff Bill...

time.com

 

[pknopp]

...because Republicans rejected the bargain and Democrats never got to supermajority to pass it.

Grand bargain (United States, 2011) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The budget only requires a majority to get passed.

 

[AntonToo]

The budget only requires a majority to get passed.

??

Tax code changes are not budget

Raising the Medicare eligibility age from 65 to 67 is not budget

etc. etc. etc.

Needs supermajority.

 

[pknopp]

?? Tax code changes are not budget.

Spending cuts and taxes are a part of a budget.

 

[leftwinger]

...because tax-cut-cult Republicans rejected the compromise and Democrats never got to supermajority to pass it.

Grand bargain (United States, 2011) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Inside Story of Obama and Boehner’s Second Failed Grand Bargain

Late last Sunday morning, House Speaker John Boehner and his No. 2, majority leader Eric Cantor, found themselves in White House Chief of Staff Bill...

time.com

BS. More excuses. You had 4 yrs Obiden 1.0

You had the likes of the AK twins, mittens, cheineys, kitzenger on and on deep statist phony R working for you. You had Piglousy swinging the gavel year after year.

The Obiden folks never even discuss raising taxes like Capital Gains or other after they win.

You filthy board swine get hustled every time. All talk. All BS.

 

[hadit]

The problem is, with Trumpsters, you're dealing with people who (a) have zero understanding of macroeconomics and (b) believe Trump when he says something absolutely insane like "tariffs can replace income taxes".

I don't like higher individual income taxes. But we have no choice now. We have done this to ourselves. Making American employers pay higher tariffs, and having some mega-rich guy prancing around on a stage with a fuckin' chainsaw after laying off thousands is not the way to go either. This has to happen from BOTH ENDS.

No, it's not "fair" to place a higher revenue burden on higher earners. But there are a lot of things in life that happen that are unfair. In the grand scheme of things, this would be LESS unfair.

The Dems have to grow some balls and figure out a way to message this. To date, they have not.

The bottom line for democrats is, it's all rhetoric because they are just as beholden to wealthy donors as everyone else is. TRUMP! laid that out in the debate with Hillary when she attacked him for using a tax deduction and he nuked her by pointing out that her donors used the very same thing. Therefore, there is no way democrats will ever really hit the wealthy without also giving them a way to avoid any increases.

Just look at the wealthy democrats pretending they want to pay higher taxes. Not a one of them uses the 1040EZ form to pay more taxes. No, every one of them employs tax attorneys to keep their bill as low as possible.

 

[AntonToo]

Spending cuts and taxes are a part of a budget.

ok I stand corrected on that.

But it still doesn't get more black and white:

House Speaker John Boehner is rejecting President Obama's offer to make historic cuts to the federal government and the social safety net, saying in a statement Saturday evening that he can not agree to the tax increases Democrats insisted on as part of the bargain.

John Boehner Rejects Obama's Grand Bargain On Debt Ceiling

John Boehner Rejects Obama's Grand Bargain On Debt Ceiling

www.huffpost.com

 

[pknopp]

ok I stand corrected on that.

But it still doesn't get more black and white:

House Speaker John Boehner is rejecting President Obama's offer to make historic cuts to the federal government and the social safety net, saying in a statement Saturday evening that he can not agree to the tax increases Democrats insisted on as part of the bargain.

John Boehner Rejects Obama's Grand Bargain On Debt Ceiling

John Boehner Rejects Obama's Grand Bargain On Debt Ceiling

www.huffpost.com

I'm not trying to defend either party. Both parties are bankrupting the country.

 

[AntonToo]

I'm not trying to defend either party. Both parties are bankrupting the country.

Well you are by posting this false equivalency.

Democrats did offer Grand Bargain, did put big spending cuts on the table in exchange for tax raises.

It wasn't Democrats that rejected the deal, it was Republicans who didn't want any tax-raises.