Republican senators block extension to ACA subsidies

[dblack]

Analogizing health insurance with auto insurance just doesn’t work. People’s lives aren’t cars.

- still steering around the point.

What you're trying to turn health insurance into isn't insurance at all. It's not a product you buy from a company. It's a social safety net that can only be maintained by forcing people to pay into it, and only government is empowered to do that. That's why ACA is seen, by many of us, as a thin veneer over socialized health care. But it's socialism done "American style", which means the corporations driving it all will profit from it. At our expense. It's essentially corporatism, and a feeding trough for insurance companies.

 

[Norm Paperman]

Shumer's shutdown was promised a vote. You, Schumer and the democrats got your useless vote as promised and it failed---just like Schumer and the democrats failed the American people with their ignorant, petulant, costly shutdown.

Now there is a record of who voted for and against the extension.

That way people who see their premiums go up know who to blame.

 

[BS Filter]

If you’re on Medicare, then the taxpayers are paying your premiums.

My Social Security is $1,530 a month and the government takes $205 out of that for Medicare each month. That leaves me with $1,325 a month. You have no idea, do you.

 

[dblack]

Now there is a record of who voted for and against the extension.

That way people who see their premiums go up know who to blame.

Right. The Democrats who voted for ACA in the first place. And the Republicans who have failed to get rid of it.

 

[Marener]

- still steering around the point.

What you're trying to turn health insurance into isn't insurance at all. It's not a product you buy from a company. It's a social safety net that can only be maintained by forcing people to pay into it, and only government is empowered to do that. That's why ACA is seen, by many of us, as a thin veneer over socialized health care. But it's socialism done "American style", which means the corporations driving it all will profit from it. At our expense. It's essentially corporatism, and a feeding trough for insurance companies.

Are you trying to make an argument for straight up socialized medicine?

Like Beveridge Model healthcare?

 

[dblack]

Are you trying to make an argument for straight up socialized medicine?

??? Trying reading my post again, I guess.

 

[Marener]

My Social Security is $1,530 a month and the government takes $205 out of that for Medicare each month. That leaves me with $1,325 a month. You have no idea, do you.

You don’t actually think your Medicare premium
Is actually $205 a month? Taxpayers pick up most of the tab.

 

[BS Filter]

You don’t actually think your Medicare premium
Is actually $205 a month? Taxpayers pick up most of the tab.

$205 comes out of MY social security each month. WTF is wrong with you?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Now there is a record of who voted for and against the extension.
That way people who see their premiums go up know who to blame.

^^
Proof Democrats created the ACA, and passed the pandemic-era temporary extensions, to use as a political tool against Republicans.

If the ACA is only affordable by making "temporary" "emergency" subsidy increases permanent it's not affordable.

 

[Marener]

$205 comes out of MY social security each month. WTF is wrong with you?

And the government subsidizes the rest.

 

[Hafar1014]

Yet, ran back to DC to pass a billionaire tax cut.






































enjoy

The tax cuts targeted the middle class and elderly

 

[dblack]

Proof Democrats created the ACA, and passed the pandemic-era temporary extensions, to use as a political tool against Republicans.

If Republicans weren't riding the Trump crazy train, they'd be able to turn this tool right back on the Democrats - by showing how ACA is a corrupt feeding trough for the insurance industry. But Rs are either too hapless to manage this, or (more likely) also in bed with the insurance industry.

 

[BS Filter]

And the government subsidizes the rest.

How much are people on obamacare paying out of pocket each month?

 

[Marener]

How much are people on obamacare paying out of pocket each month?

Depends on their income and what plan they pick.

 

[Norm Paperman]

^^
Proof Democrats created the ACA, and passed the pandemic-era temporary extensions, to use as a political tool against Republicans.

If the ACA is only affordable by making "temporary" "emergency" subsidy increases permanent it's not affordable.

I guess in a few months we will find out if the voters of the US agree with your take or not.

 

[M14 Shooter]

My Social Security is $1,530 a month and the government takes $205 out of that for Medicare each month. That leaves me with $1,325 a month. You have no idea, do you.

Sad how you paid 1.45% of your gross pay every month for 40+ years into Medicare just so you could pay 13.34% of your gross SS benefit for Medicare, with every probability that you need to pay additional money for a supplemental plan.
AND you have no choice - you cannot opt out of Medicare.

 

[BS Filter]

Depends on their income and what plan they pick.

You really are stupid. Bye.

 

[Marener]

Sad how you paid 1.45% of your gross pay every month for 40+ years into Medicare just so you could pay 13.34% of your gross SS benefit for Medicare, with every probability that you need to pay additional money for a supplemental plan.
AND you have no choice - you cannot opt out of Medicare.

And you’re still getting a really good deal because Medicare is really ******* expensive. All that money you “paid in” doesn’t come close to funding what you will get.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I guess in a few months we will find out if the voters of the US agree with your take or not.

Popular majority agreement or not, my statement is still true; if the Demcorats win in 2026, it not only serves to prove my claim, but demonstrates the efficacy of their scheme.

 

[Marener]

??? Trying reading my post again, I guess.

I just don’t know what kind of system you’re looking for. You just want to shit on everything without having any solutions.