Reparations: Who Gets Paid?

[alang1216]

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And you will vote for whatever they tell you to.

Wow, you can predict my future? God complex?

 

[bottlecap]

I support REPARATIONS as long as Democrats pay for it.

Certainly Republicans should get a check too and any blacks who are Democrats would, of course, ZERO out and get nothing, as their payment would equal and monies they would receive.

 

[bottlecap]

IRONICALLY, the Biden/Obama Administration brought about the return of slavery to Northern Africa.

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BY CASEY GANE
DECEMBER 1, 2017
HOW SLAVERY CAME BACK TO LIBYA

Still, the question remains: How did Libya become a place where slavery is permitted? Ironically the decisions made by a Black man, Barack Obama, and a white woman, Hillary Clinton, to take out a Pan-African leader, Muammar Qadaffi, led to both the resurrection slavery for Africans, and a reversal of progress in women’s rights.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I support REPARATIONS as long as Democrats pay for it.

Certainly Republicans should get a check too and any blacks who are Democrats would, of course, ZERO out and get nothing, as their payment would equal and monies they would receive.

that one particular organization is, if any are, responsible for the claimed plight of black Americans. And that organization is called the Democrat Party.



From the OP: Say two men are waiting on line in a bakery, and the one second in line attacks the man ahead of him. A third man intercedes to protect the man being attacked.
Police detain all three, sorting out the details, and the result is a civil suit for damages.
Who has damages? Black folks
Who is responsible for those damages? The Democrat Party
Who is blameless, and/or should receive a commendation? The Republican Party




Clearly, no Republicans should be responsible for paying reparations. In fact, the debt was paid off by the nation in the mid-nineteenth century.

"At least 620,000 combatants died during the four-year struggle; recent estimates put the total closer to 750,000, or more than 2 percent of the nation’s population at that time. More soldiers died in prison camps alone than America lost during the entire Vietnam War. Perhaps more to the point, some 350,000 Union soldiers died during the conflict, abolitionists in effect if not always in intent. Adjusted for population, that would amount to almost 5 million service deaths today, amounting to a blood sacrifice more than sufficient to redeem whatever moral or intellectual inconsistencies there are to be found in America’s founding documents.

And if that’s not sufficient? Well, then, nothing will be. But for most Americans—and for much of the rest of the world—it is more than enough. "
Blood Redemption




But.....if there is a fiduciary responsibility......it falls on the Democrats.
Now, for the accounting: Once the monetary figure due is determined, the voter rolls should be consulted, and the total number of registered Democrats should be divided into that dollar amount. And the bills sent.



How long before there’d be a massive Republican enrollment?

See how the Republican Party would grow and magnify?



“When justice is done, it brings joy to the righteous but terror to evildoers.” Proverbs 21:15

 

[PoliticalChic]

 

[PoliticalChic]

"California politicos move forward on plans giving reparations to African Americans
Posted by Leslie Eastman Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 9:00am
If California’s Democrats feel the need to pull this stunt right now, exactly how badly is Joe Biden actually doing in the super-secret internal polling?

The state Senate supported creating the nine-member commission on a bipartisan 33-3 vote Saturday. The measure returns to the Assembly for a final vote before lawmakers adjourn for the year on Monday, though Assembly members overwhelmingly already approved an earlier version of the bill.


The proposal, AB-3121, titled “Task Force to Study and Develop Reparation Proposals for African Americans,” would create the nine-member commission to study who would be getting the monies, and where it would be coming from. Considering that California was a free state during the Civil War and that businesses are collapsing throughout the state those answers are not obvious.

The matter will move to the Assembly, where its easy passage on the social justice merits alone will be easy.

“If the 40-acres-and-a-mule that was promised to free slaves were delivered to the descendants of those slaves today, we would all be billionaires,” state Sen. Steven Bradford, D-Gardena, said. “I hear far too many people say, ‘Well, I didn’t own slaves, that was so long ago.’ Well, you inherit wealth — you can inherit the debt that you owe to African-Americans.”

California politicos move forward on plans giving reparations to African Americans

If California's Democrats feel the need to pull this stunt right now, exactly how badly is Joe Biden actually doing in the super-secret internal polling?

legalinsurrection.com

 

[PoliticalChic]

 

[Quasar44]

It was the post-WW2 era that saw the expansion of the word "fascism" and its re-definition. Until the liberal Mussolini passed away on the shores of Lake Como, Fascism was a registered trademark of his political movement.

Uncle Joe Stalin was the first to use the name wholesale against anyone who ran against him in any way- from Communist dissenters all the way to conservatives.

Do you even know that the new UFC light heavy champ is from Poland
Jan Blavkowitz
He can KO anyone in just a punch

 

[Quasar44]

If the Democrats win in November......you can bet on reparations.



1.Terms of recrimination come and go. Once upon a time, probably due to the end of WWII, the attack-words were “you Fascist, you!!”

“The term can even be extended to any dictatorship that has become unfashionable among intellectuals. [working-class Americans call it "Communism." Middle-class Americans, educated enough to understand that it's uncouth to say anything against Communism, call it "fascism."] When the Soviet Union and People's China had a falling out in the 1960s, they each promptly discovered that the other fraternal socialist country was not merely capitalist but "fascist." At the most vulgar level, "fascist" is a handy swear-word for such hated figures as Rush Limbaugh or John Ashcroft who, whatever their faults, are as remote from historical Fascism as anyone in public life today.”

“The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele

The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele

THE LIBERTARIAN ALLIANCE is an independent, non-party group, brought together by a shared desire to work for a free society. The Libertarian Alliance is pledged to fight statism in all its forms, and to engage in long range propaganda for the Libertarian alternative.

www.la-articles.org.uk

What is most interesting is that the real curse should be ‘You communist, you!” because communism was, by every measure, worse than Nazism/Fascism, but the influence of the Marxism, due to FDR, shifted the vituperation.

“American progressives, for the most part, did not disavow fascism until the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust became manifest during World War II. After the war, those progressives who had praised Mussolini and Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s had no choice but to dissociate themselves from fascism. “Accordingly,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “leftist intellectuals redefined fascism as 'right-wing' and projected their own sins onto conservatives, even as they continued to borrow heavily from fascist and pre-fascist thought.” This progressive campaign to recast fascism as the "right-wing" antithesis of communism was aided by Joseph Stalin, ....”

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1223

2. What is the ubiquitous curse today? Of course, it is “You racist, you!!” And that brings us to the question of why that is so, and where it is headed. Clearly, using the term against another is meant to express moral outrage at slavery and oppression, and one’s own virtue-signaling. It has gotten to the point where it presages both a dangerous threat, and, a laugh-line:

“Thrilled with their role as ‘white friend-of-the-blacks,’ many found that they could actually make a living at it! The part requires sneering at nonexistent racists, and memorizing one line: “Goddam it, this may cost me my career but I’m going to speak up for racial equality and let the chips fall where they may!”
Coulter



3. But here’s where it is going: paying the underclass to vote Democrat, what we euphemistically call the ‘welfare system,’ or the ‘safety net,’ has lasted over half a century. Now, the Left needs to insure those votes, so they are ready to up the ante: Reparations.

But….who gets this huge round of largesse?

Who gets paid?

And trillions in welfare is not reparations!!

Should the Irish get more since they’re the ones who died in the Civil war
Do recent blacks from Africa have to pay for it ??

 

[IM2]

If the Democrats win in November......you can bet on reparations.



1.Terms of recrimination come and go. Once upon a time, probably due to the end of WWII, the attack-words were “you Fascist, you!!”

“The term can even be extended to any dictatorship that has become unfashionable among intellectuals. [working-class Americans call it "Communism." Middle-class Americans, educated enough to understand that it's uncouth to say anything against Communism, call it "fascism."] When the Soviet Union and People's China had a falling out in the 1960s, they each promptly discovered that the other fraternal socialist country was not merely capitalist but "fascist." At the most vulgar level, "fascist" is a handy swear-word for such hated figures as Rush Limbaugh or John Ashcroft who, whatever their faults, are as remote from historical Fascism as anyone in public life today.”

“The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele

The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele

THE LIBERTARIAN ALLIANCE is an independent, non-party group, brought together by a shared desire to work for a free society. The Libertarian Alliance is pledged to fight statism in all its forms, and to engage in long range propaganda for the Libertarian alternative.

www.la-articles.org.uk

What is most interesting is that the real curse should be ‘You communist, you!” because communism was, by every measure, worse than Nazism/Fascism, but the influence of the Marxism, due to FDR, shifted the vituperation.

“American progressives, for the most part, did not disavow fascism until the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust became manifest during World War II. After the war, those progressives who had praised Mussolini and Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s had no choice but to dissociate themselves from fascism. “Accordingly,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “leftist intellectuals redefined fascism as 'right-wing' and projected their own sins onto conservatives, even as they continued to borrow heavily from fascist and pre-fascist thought.” This progressive campaign to recast fascism as the "right-wing" antithesis of communism was aided by Joseph Stalin, ....”

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1223

2. What is the ubiquitous curse today? Of course, it is “You racist, you!!” And that brings us to the question of why that is so, and where it is headed. Clearly, using the term against another is meant to express moral outrage at slavery and oppression, and one’s own virtue-signaling. It has gotten to the point where it presages both a dangerous threat, and, a laugh-line:

“Thrilled with their role as ‘white friend-of-the-blacks,’ many found that they could actually make a living at it! The part requires sneering at nonexistent racists, and memorizing one line: “Goddam it, this may cost me my career but I’m going to speak up for racial equality and let the chips fall where they may!”
Coulter



3. But here’s where it is going: paying the underclass to vote Democrat, what we euphemistically call the ‘welfare system,’ or the ‘safety net,’ has lasted over half a century. Now, the Left needs to insure those votes, so they are ready to up the ante: Reparations.

But….who gets this huge round of largesse?

Who gets paid?

And trillions in welfare is not reparations!!

Should the Irish get more since they’re the ones who died in the Civil war
Do recent blacks from Africa have to pay for it ??

Whites have gotten the most welfare. Civil War vets got reparations.

 

[IM2]

Dumb Asians really need to quit this shit.

This mornings lesson:

THE IRISH WERE NEVER SLAVES!

Awww...the poor snowflakes. Who the hell isn't "wounded"? Hundreds of thousands of Irish people came here under indentured servitude, which wasn't much better than slavery.

Anonymous white internet poster​

That is one of the greatest falsehoods that has manifested itself in the discourse about racism in America. For years I even believed that. I remember reading a book titled “Trinity” written by Leon Uris about a fictional hero of the Irish resistance named Conor Larkin. The story detailed the treatment of the Irish from the 1700’s until the 1916 uprising. After reading that book, I was convinced that the Irish had it just as bad as blacks. Yes, the Irish were treated terribly in Europe and when they first came to America. But they were not slaves. Irish historians such as Liam Hogan have made this crystal clear.

“I conservatively estimate that tens of millions of people have been exposed to ‘Irish slaves’ disinformation in one form or another on social media.”

Liam Hogan​

From 2015 until 2019, Liam Hogan compiled some 52 different articles debunking the tale of Irish slavery. The intent here is not to denigrate nonracist Irish citizens of this country, but to destroy a popular white supremacist meme that has plagued social media and American culture for years. According to Hogan and other Irish historians in his compilation, the Irish were indentured servants and not slaves. The fallacy in the white supremacist argument lies in the fact that indentured servitude was a contractual agreement made between 2 or more parties. One party agreed that for payment of passage to America, the individual(s) would work for a specified term to repay the cost of passage. To say it was not much better than slavery is simply a lie. Slavery was permanent. Slavery was also generational. If you we born into a slave family, you were a slave. When you had children, they were slaves. There was no 7 years and a headright.

“The tale of the Irish slaves is rooted in a false conflation of indentured servitude and chattel slavery. These are not the same. Indentured servitude was a form of bonded labour, whereby a migrant agreed to work for a set period of time (between two and seven years) and in return the cost of the voyage across the Atlantic was covered. Indentured servitude was a colonial innovation that enabled many to emigrate to the New World while providing a cheap and white labour force for planters and merchants to exploit. Those who completed their term of service were awarded ‘freedom dues’ and were free. The vast majority of labourers who agreed to this system did so voluntarily, but there were many who were forcibly transplanted from the British Isles to the colonies and sold into indentured service against their will. While these forced deportees would have included political prisoners and serious felons, it is believed that the majority came from the poor and vulnerable. This forced labour was in essence an extension of the English Poor Laws, e.g. in 1697. John Locke recommended the whipping of those who ‘refused to work’ and the herding of beggars into workhouses. Indeed this criminalisation of the poor continues into the 21st century. In any case, all bar the serious felons were freed once the term of their contract expired.”

Liam Hogan​

Certainly, the Irish did endure difficulties. The general argument in order to dismiss or derail conversations about the treatment of blacks is that everybody had it tough. That is true, but everybody else CHOSE to come to America. No matter what diversion is used, Africans sold Africans to whites. The shipping companies were not owned by Africans. Nor does it appear that the more than 10 million Africans shipped across the Atlantic made any contractual agreement to perform labor in return for passage. So yes, the Europeans that chose to come here with little or nothing did struggle. But the various European ethnic groups had one thing they used to lift themselves up. And they used it to step on others- the race card.

“Whiteness is a social construct, and one with concrete benefits. Being white in the U.S. has long meant better jobs and opportunities, and an escape from persecution based on appearance and culture. Although these structural advantages remain, the meaning of whiteness is still hotly debated.”

Sarah Kendzior, How do you become “white” in America?​

Those who claim today to have suffered like blacks did not. I will cite the Irish as an example. Upon coming to this country this group wa considered lesser and inferior. In the north, Irish and blacks competed for the same jobs, or should I say, were relegated to low wage, menial labor. Irish and blacks in the north lived in the same communities. Both groups mixed socially, intermarried and had biracial children. The green was the black when and where no blacks existed.

“In the early years of immigration the poor Irish and blacks were thrown together, very much part of the same class competing for the same jobs. In the census of 1850, the term mulatto appears for the first time due primarily to inter-marriage between Irish and African Americans. The Irish were often referred to as Negroes turned inside out and Negroes as smoked Irish. A famous quip of the time attributed to a black man went something like this: "My master is a great tyrant, he treats me like a common Irishman." Free blacks and Irish were viewed by the Nativists as related, somehow similar, performing the same tasks in society. It was felt that if amalgamation between the races was to happen, it would happen between Irish and blacks. But, ultimately, the Irish made the decision to embrace whiteness, thus becoming part of the system which dominated and oppressed blacks. Although it contradicted their experience back home, it meant freedom here since blackness meant slavery.

An article by a black writer in an 1860 edition of the Liberator explained how the Irish ultimately attained their objectives: "Fifteen or twenty years ago, a Catholic priest in Philadelphia said to the Irish people in that city, 'You are all poor, and chiefly laborers, the blacks are poor laborers; many of the native whites are laborers; now, if you wish to succeed, you must do everything that they do, no matter how degrading, and do it for less than they can afford to do it for.' The Irish adopted this plan; they lived on less than the Americans could live upon, and worked for less, and the result is, that nearly all the menial employments are monopolized by the Irish, who now get as good prices as anybody. There were other avenues open to American white men, and though they have suffered much, the chief support of the Irish has come from the places from which we have been crowded."

Once the Irish secured themselves in those jobs, they made sure blacks were kept out. They realized that as long as they continued to work alongside blacks, they would be considered no different. Later, as Irish became prominent in the labor movement, African Americans were excluded from participation. In fact, one of the primary themes of How the Irish Became White is the way in which left labor historians, such as the highly acclaimed Herbert Gutman, have not paid sufficient attention to the problem of race in the development of the labor movement.

And so, we have the tragic story of how one oppressed "race," Irish Catholics, learned how to collaborate in the oppression of another "race," Africans in America, in order to secure their place in the white republic. Becoming white meant losing their greenness, i.e., their Irish cultural heritage and the legacy of oppression and discrimination back home.”

Art McDonald, Ph.D., “How the Irish Became White”
​

Here endeth the lesson.

​

Liam Hogan, All of my work on the “Irish slaves” meme (2015–’19), All of my work on the “Irish slaves” meme (2015–’20)

Liam Hogan, Irish slaves’: the convenient myth, ‘Irish slaves’: the convenient myth

Eoin O'Carroll, No, the Irish were not slaves in the Americas, Christian Science Monitor, March 16, 2018, No, the Irish were not slaves in the Americas

Art McDonald, Ph.D., How the Irish Became White,

How the Irish Became White

 

[PoliticalChic]

Dumb Asians really need to quit this shit.

This mornings lesson:

THE IRISH WERE NEVER SLAVES!

Awww...the poor snowflakes. Who the hell isn't "wounded"? Hundreds of thousands of Irish people came here under indentured servitude, which wasn't much better than slavery.

Anonymous white internet poster​

That is one of the greatest falsehoods that has manifested itself in the discourse about racism in America. For years I even believed that. I remember reading a book titled “Trinity” written by Leon Uris about a fictional hero of the Irish resistance named Conor Larkin. The story detailed the treatment of the Irish from the 1700’s until the 1916 uprising. After reading that book, I was convinced that the Irish had it just as bad as blacks. Yes, the Irish were treated terribly in Europe and when they first came to America. But they were not slaves. Irish historians such as Liam Hogan have made this crystal clear.

“I conservatively estimate that tens of millions of people have been exposed to ‘Irish slaves’ disinformation in one form or another on social media.”

Liam Hogan​

From 2015 until 2019, Liam Hogan compiled some 52 different articles debunking the tale of Irish slavery. The intent here is not to denigrate nonracist Irish citizens of this country, but to destroy a popular white supremacist meme that has plagued social media and American culture for years. According to Hogan and other Irish historians in his compilation, the Irish were indentured servants and not slaves. The fallacy in the white supremacist argument lies in the fact that indentured servitude was a contractual agreement made between 2 or more parties. One party agreed that for payment of passage to America, the individual(s) would work for a specified term to repay the cost of passage. To say it was not much better than slavery is simply a lie. Slavery was permanent. Slavery was also generational. If you we born into a slave family, you were a slave. When you had children, they were slaves. There was no 7 years and a headright.

“The tale of the Irish slaves is rooted in a false conflation of indentured servitude and chattel slavery. These are not the same. Indentured servitude was a form of bonded labour, whereby a migrant agreed to work for a set period of time (between two and seven years) and in return the cost of the voyage across the Atlantic was covered. Indentured servitude was a colonial innovation that enabled many to emigrate to the New World while providing a cheap and white labour force for planters and merchants to exploit. Those who completed their term of service were awarded ‘freedom dues’ and were free. The vast majority of labourers who agreed to this system did so voluntarily, but there were many who were forcibly transplanted from the British Isles to the colonies and sold into indentured service against their will. While these forced deportees would have included political prisoners and serious felons, it is believed that the majority came from the poor and vulnerable. This forced labour was in essence an extension of the English Poor Laws, e.g. in 1697. John Locke recommended the whipping of those who ‘refused to work’ and the herding of beggars into workhouses. Indeed this criminalisation of the poor continues into the 21st century. In any case, all bar the serious felons were freed once the term of their contract expired.”

Liam Hogan​

Certainly, the Irish did endure difficulties. The general argument in order to dismiss or derail conversations about the treatment of blacks is that everybody had it tough. That is true, but everybody else CHOSE to come to America. No matter what diversion is used, Africans sold Africans to whites. The shipping companies were not owned by Africans. Nor does it appear that the more than 10 million Africans shipped across the Atlantic made any contractual agreement to perform labor in return for passage. So yes, the Europeans that chose to come here with little or nothing did struggle. But the various European ethnic groups had one thing they used to lift themselves up. And they used it to step on others- the race card.

“Whiteness is a social construct, and one with concrete benefits. Being white in the U.S. has long meant better jobs and opportunities, and an escape from persecution based on appearance and culture. Although these structural advantages remain, the meaning of whiteness is still hotly debated.”

Sarah Kendzior, How do you become “white” in America?​

Those who claim today to have suffered like blacks did not. I will cite the Irish as an example. Upon coming to this country this group wa considered lesser and inferior. In the north, Irish and blacks competed for the same jobs, or should I say, were relegated to low wage, menial labor. Irish and blacks in the north lived in the same communities. Both groups mixed socially, intermarried and had biracial children. The green was the black when and where no blacks existed.

“In the early years of immigration the poor Irish and blacks were thrown together, very much part of the same class competing for the same jobs. In the census of 1850, the term mulatto appears for the first time due primarily to inter-marriage between Irish and African Americans. The Irish were often referred to as Negroes turned inside out and Negroes as smoked Irish. A famous quip of the time attributed to a black man went something like this: "My master is a great tyrant, he treats me like a common Irishman." Free blacks and Irish were viewed by the Nativists as related, somehow similar, performing the same tasks in society. It was felt that if amalgamation between the races was to happen, it would happen between Irish and blacks. But, ultimately, the Irish made the decision to embrace whiteness, thus becoming part of the system which dominated and oppressed blacks. Although it contradicted their experience back home, it meant freedom here since blackness meant slavery.

An article by a black writer in an 1860 edition of the Liberator explained how the Irish ultimately attained their objectives: "Fifteen or twenty years ago, a Catholic priest in Philadelphia said to the Irish people in that city, 'You are all poor, and chiefly laborers, the blacks are poor laborers; many of the native whites are laborers; now, if you wish to succeed, you must do everything that they do, no matter how degrading, and do it for less than they can afford to do it for.' The Irish adopted this plan; they lived on less than the Americans could live upon, and worked for less, and the result is, that nearly all the menial employments are monopolized by the Irish, who now get as good prices as anybody. There were other avenues open to American white men, and though they have suffered much, the chief support of the Irish has come from the places from which we have been crowded."

Once the Irish secured themselves in those jobs, they made sure blacks were kept out. They realized that as long as they continued to work alongside blacks, they would be considered no different. Later, as Irish became prominent in the labor movement, African Americans were excluded from participation. In fact, one of the primary themes of How the Irish Became White is the way in which left labor historians, such as the highly acclaimed Herbert Gutman, have not paid sufficient attention to the problem of race in the development of the labor movement.

And so, we have the tragic story of how one oppressed "race," Irish Catholics, learned how to collaborate in the oppression of another "race," Africans in America, in order to secure their place in the white republic. Becoming white meant losing their greenness, i.e., their Irish cultural heritage and the legacy of oppression and discrimination back home.”

Art McDonald, Ph.D., “How the Irish Became White”
​

Here endeth the lesson.

​

Liam Hogan, All of my work on the “Irish slaves” meme (2015–’19), All of my work on the “Irish slaves” meme (2015–’20)

Liam Hogan, Irish slaves’: the convenient myth, ‘Irish slaves’: the convenient myth

Eoin O'Carroll, No, the Irish were not slaves in the Americas, Christian Science Monitor, March 16, 2018, No, the Irish were not slaves in the Americas

Art McDonald, Ph.D., How the Irish Became White,

How the Irish Became White

Your education continues:

The Irish were the first ethnic minority in American cities, and their history shows the classic pattern of new comers to the urban economy, and society. Starting at the very bottom of the urban occupational ladder, with the men as laborers and the woman as maids. Housing was far worse than urban slums today.
Thomas Sowell, "Ethnic America," chapter one.


"The French sociologist, Gustave de Beaumont, visited Ireland in 1835 and wrote: "I have seen the Indian in his forests, and the Negro in his chains, and thought, as I contemplated their pitiable condition, that I saw the very extreme of human wretchedness; but I did not then know the condition of unfortunate Ireland...In all countries, more or less, paupers may be discovered; but an entire nation of paupers is what was never seen until it was shown in Ireland."
Slaves in the United States had a greater life expectancy than peasants in Ireland."
The West Awake: Barry Clifford: The Democide Of Ireland In The 1800's



Perhaps less hand-wringing and more emphasis on things like the nuclear family, and you could stop crying.


Recognize that the path to prosperity is exactly what Liberals tell you to avoid:

“The chart endeavors to list "the ways white people and their traditions, attitudes and ways of life have been normalized over time and are now considered standard practices in the United States." Among those traditions, attitudes, and ways of life are: Individualism, hard work, objectivity, the nuclear family, a belief in progress, a written tradition, politeness, the justice system, respect for authority, delayed gratification and planning for the future, plus much more.” Smithsonian Goes Full Marxist: Nuclear Family, Science, Christianity All Part of Oppressive 'Whiteness'



And stop voting for the party of the slave masters.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Dumb Asians really need to quit this shit.

This mornings lesson:

THE IRISH WERE NEVER SLAVES!

Awww...the poor snowflakes. Who the hell isn't "wounded"? Hundreds of thousands of Irish people came here under indentured servitude, which wasn't much better than slavery.

Anonymous white internet poster​

That is one of the greatest falsehoods that has manifested itself in the discourse about racism in America. For years I even believed that. I remember reading a book titled “Trinity” written by Leon Uris about a fictional hero of the Irish resistance named Conor Larkin. The story detailed the treatment of the Irish from the 1700’s until the 1916 uprising. After reading that book, I was convinced that the Irish had it just as bad as blacks. Yes, the Irish were treated terribly in Europe and when they first came to America. But they were not slaves. Irish historians such as Liam Hogan have made this crystal clear.

“I conservatively estimate that tens of millions of people have been exposed to ‘Irish slaves’ disinformation in one form or another on social media.”

Liam Hogan​

From 2015 until 2019, Liam Hogan compiled some 52 different articles debunking the tale of Irish slavery. The intent here is not to denigrate nonracist Irish citizens of this country, but to destroy a popular white supremacist meme that has plagued social media and American culture for years. According to Hogan and other Irish historians in his compilation, the Irish were indentured servants and not slaves. The fallacy in the white supremacist argument lies in the fact that indentured servitude was a contractual agreement made between 2 or more parties. One party agreed that for payment of passage to America, the individual(s) would work for a specified term to repay the cost of passage. To say it was not much better than slavery is simply a lie. Slavery was permanent. Slavery was also generational. If you we born into a slave family, you were a slave. When you had children, they were slaves. There was no 7 years and a headright.

“The tale of the Irish slaves is rooted in a false conflation of indentured servitude and chattel slavery. These are not the same. Indentured servitude was a form of bonded labour, whereby a migrant agreed to work for a set period of time (between two and seven years) and in return the cost of the voyage across the Atlantic was covered. Indentured servitude was a colonial innovation that enabled many to emigrate to the New World while providing a cheap and white labour force for planters and merchants to exploit. Those who completed their term of service were awarded ‘freedom dues’ and were free. The vast majority of labourers who agreed to this system did so voluntarily, but there were many who were forcibly transplanted from the British Isles to the colonies and sold into indentured service against their will. While these forced deportees would have included political prisoners and serious felons, it is believed that the majority came from the poor and vulnerable. This forced labour was in essence an extension of the English Poor Laws, e.g. in 1697. John Locke recommended the whipping of those who ‘refused to work’ and the herding of beggars into workhouses. Indeed this criminalisation of the poor continues into the 21st century. In any case, all bar the serious felons were freed once the term of their contract expired.”

Liam Hogan​

Certainly, the Irish did endure difficulties. The general argument in order to dismiss or derail conversations about the treatment of blacks is that everybody had it tough. That is true, but everybody else CHOSE to come to America. No matter what diversion is used, Africans sold Africans to whites. The shipping companies were not owned by Africans. Nor does it appear that the more than 10 million Africans shipped across the Atlantic made any contractual agreement to perform labor in return for passage. So yes, the Europeans that chose to come here with little or nothing did struggle. But the various European ethnic groups had one thing they used to lift themselves up. And they used it to step on others- the race card.

“Whiteness is a social construct, and one with concrete benefits. Being white in the U.S. has long meant better jobs and opportunities, and an escape from persecution based on appearance and culture. Although these structural advantages remain, the meaning of whiteness is still hotly debated.”

Sarah Kendzior, How do you become “white” in America?​

Those who claim today to have suffered like blacks did not. I will cite the Irish as an example. Upon coming to this country this group wa considered lesser and inferior. In the north, Irish and blacks competed for the same jobs, or should I say, were relegated to low wage, menial labor. Irish and blacks in the north lived in the same communities. Both groups mixed socially, intermarried and had biracial children. The green was the black when and where no blacks existed.

“In the early years of immigration the poor Irish and blacks were thrown together, very much part of the same class competing for the same jobs. In the census of 1850, the term mulatto appears for the first time due primarily to inter-marriage between Irish and African Americans. The Irish were often referred to as Negroes turned inside out and Negroes as smoked Irish. A famous quip of the time attributed to a black man went something like this: "My master is a great tyrant, he treats me like a common Irishman." Free blacks and Irish were viewed by the Nativists as related, somehow similar, performing the same tasks in society. It was felt that if amalgamation between the races was to happen, it would happen between Irish and blacks. But, ultimately, the Irish made the decision to embrace whiteness, thus becoming part of the system which dominated and oppressed blacks. Although it contradicted their experience back home, it meant freedom here since blackness meant slavery.

An article by a black writer in an 1860 edition of the Liberator explained how the Irish ultimately attained their objectives: "Fifteen or twenty years ago, a Catholic priest in Philadelphia said to the Irish people in that city, 'You are all poor, and chiefly laborers, the blacks are poor laborers; many of the native whites are laborers; now, if you wish to succeed, you must do everything that they do, no matter how degrading, and do it for less than they can afford to do it for.' The Irish adopted this plan; they lived on less than the Americans could live upon, and worked for less, and the result is, that nearly all the menial employments are monopolized by the Irish, who now get as good prices as anybody. There were other avenues open to American white men, and though they have suffered much, the chief support of the Irish has come from the places from which we have been crowded."

Once the Irish secured themselves in those jobs, they made sure blacks were kept out. They realized that as long as they continued to work alongside blacks, they would be considered no different. Later, as Irish became prominent in the labor movement, African Americans were excluded from participation. In fact, one of the primary themes of How the Irish Became White is the way in which left labor historians, such as the highly acclaimed Herbert Gutman, have not paid sufficient attention to the problem of race in the development of the labor movement.

And so, we have the tragic story of how one oppressed "race," Irish Catholics, learned how to collaborate in the oppression of another "race," Africans in America, in order to secure their place in the white republic. Becoming white meant losing their greenness, i.e., their Irish cultural heritage and the legacy of oppression and discrimination back home.”

Art McDonald, Ph.D., “How the Irish Became White”
​

Here endeth the lesson.

​

Liam Hogan, All of my work on the “Irish slaves” meme (2015–’19), All of my work on the “Irish slaves” meme (2015–’20)

Liam Hogan, Irish slaves’: the convenient myth, ‘Irish slaves’: the convenient myth

Eoin O'Carroll, No, the Irish were not slaves in the Americas, Christian Science Monitor, March 16, 2018, No, the Irish were not slaves in the Americas

Art McDonald, Ph.D., How the Irish Became White,

How the Irish Became White

"THE IRISH WERE NEVER SLAVES! "


Bulletin:

Neither were you.



Of course, you may have picked cotton out of an aspirin bottle........

 

[irosie91]

If the Democrats win in November......you can bet on reparations.



1.Terms of recrimination come and go. Once upon a time, probably due to the end of WWII, the attack-words were “you Fascist, you!!”

“The term can even be extended to any dictatorship that has become unfashionable among intellectuals. [working-class Americans call it "Communism." Middle-class Americans, educated enough to understand that it's uncouth to say anything against Communism, call it "fascism."] When the Soviet Union and People's China had a falling out in the 1960s, they each promptly discovered that the other fraternal socialist country was not merely capitalist but "fascist." At the most vulgar level, "fascist" is a handy swear-word for such hated figures as Rush Limbaugh or John Ashcroft who, whatever their faults, are as remote from historical Fascism as anyone in public life today.”

“The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele

The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele

THE LIBERTARIAN ALLIANCE is an independent, non-party group, brought together by a shared desire to work for a free society. The Libertarian Alliance is pledged to fight statism in all its forms, and to engage in long range propaganda for the Libertarian alternative.

www.la-articles.org.uk

What is most interesting is that the real curse should be ‘You communist, you!” because communism was, by every measure, worse than Nazism/Fascism, but the influence of the Marxism, due to FDR, shifted the vituperation.

“American progressives, for the most part, did not disavow fascism until the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust became manifest during World War II. After the war, those progressives who had praised Mussolini and Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s had no choice but to dissociate themselves from fascism. “Accordingly,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “leftist intellectuals redefined fascism as 'right-wing' and projected their own sins onto conservatives, even as they continued to borrow heavily from fascist and pre-fascist thought.” This progressive campaign to recast fascism as the "right-wing" antithesis of communism was aided by Joseph Stalin, ....”

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1223

2. What is the ubiquitous curse today? Of course, it is “You racist, you!!” And that brings us to the question of why that is so, and where it is headed. Clearly, using the term against another is meant to express moral outrage at slavery and oppression, and one’s own virtue-signaling. It has gotten to the point where it presages both a dangerous threat, and, a laugh-line:

“Thrilled with their role as ‘white friend-of-the-blacks,’ many found that they could actually make a living at it! The part requires sneering at nonexistent racists, and memorizing one line: “Goddam it, this may cost me my career but I’m going to speak up for racial equality and let the chips fall where they may!”
Coulter



3. But here’s where it is going: paying the underclass to vote Democrat, what we euphemistically call the ‘welfare system,’ or the ‘safety net,’ has lasted over half a century. Now, the Left needs to insure those votes, so they are ready to up the ante: Reparations.

But….who gets this huge round of largesse?

Who gets paid?

And trillions in welfare is not reparations!!

Should the Irish get more since they’re the ones who died in the Civil war
Do recent blacks from Africa have to pay for it ??

Harris has roots in India-----where the BRAHMINS complain about TOO MUCH
given to "scheduled" castes (that means the
'untouchables') I can't wait for this to blow up
in HER face. The irish did the civil war? sheeeesh-----

 

[daveman]

If the Democrats win in November......you can bet on reparations.



1.Terms of recrimination come and go. Once upon a time, probably due to the end of WWII, the attack-words were “you Fascist, you!!”

“The term can even be extended to any dictatorship that has become unfashionable among intellectuals. [working-class Americans call it "Communism." Middle-class Americans, educated enough to understand that it's uncouth to say anything against Communism, call it "fascism."] When the Soviet Union and People's China had a falling out in the 1960s, they each promptly discovered that the other fraternal socialist country was not merely capitalist but "fascist." At the most vulgar level, "fascist" is a handy swear-word for such hated figures as Rush Limbaugh or John Ashcroft who, whatever their faults, are as remote from historical Fascism as anyone in public life today.”

“The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele

The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele

THE LIBERTARIAN ALLIANCE is an independent, non-party group, brought together by a shared desire to work for a free society. The Libertarian Alliance is pledged to fight statism in all its forms, and to engage in long range propaganda for the Libertarian alternative.

www.la-articles.org.uk

What is most interesting is that the real curse should be ‘You communist, you!” because communism was, by every measure, worse than Nazism/Fascism, but the influence of the Marxism, due to FDR, shifted the vituperation.

“American progressives, for the most part, did not disavow fascism until the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust became manifest during World War II. After the war, those progressives who had praised Mussolini and Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s had no choice but to dissociate themselves from fascism. “Accordingly,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “leftist intellectuals redefined fascism as 'right-wing' and projected their own sins onto conservatives, even as they continued to borrow heavily from fascist and pre-fascist thought.” This progressive campaign to recast fascism as the "right-wing" antithesis of communism was aided by Joseph Stalin, ....”

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1223

2. What is the ubiquitous curse today? Of course, it is “You racist, you!!” And that brings us to the question of why that is so, and where it is headed. Clearly, using the term against another is meant to express moral outrage at slavery and oppression, and one’s own virtue-signaling. It has gotten to the point where it presages both a dangerous threat, and, a laugh-line:

“Thrilled with their role as ‘white friend-of-the-blacks,’ many found that they could actually make a living at it! The part requires sneering at nonexistent racists, and memorizing one line: “Goddam it, this may cost me my career but I’m going to speak up for racial equality and let the chips fall where they may!”
Coulter



3. But here’s where it is going: paying the underclass to vote Democrat, what we euphemistically call the ‘welfare system,’ or the ‘safety net,’ has lasted over half a century. Now, the Left needs to insure those votes, so they are ready to up the ante: Reparations.

But….who gets this huge round of largesse?

Who gets paid?

And trillions in welfare is not reparations!!

Should the Irish get more since they’re the ones who died in the Civil war
Do recent blacks from Africa have to pay for it ??

Whites have gotten the most welfare. Civil War vets got reparations.

Because they fought in the war.

Were you a slave?

 

[PoliticalChic]

"Bryn Mawr College Agrees to ‘Reparations Fund’ Following Student Strike That Shut Campus for Weeks

the school is still bending over backward to appease the strikers.

Jackson Walker writes at The College Fix:

College agrees to ‘reparations fund’ to help pay for black students’ therapy, books
Bryn Mawr College, a women’s liberal arts college in Pennsylvania, recently agreed to student activists’ demands that a “reparations fund” be created for black and indigenous students.
It was one of many demands issued by the Bryn Mawr Strike Collective, a student-led group that organized a racial justice strike on campus during the fall semester.
The students’ demand called for “the implementation of a ‘reparations fund’ towards a yearly allocation of funds and resources to Black and Indigenous students in the form of grants for summer programs, affinity groups, multicultural spaces, and individual expenses such as books, online courses, therapy, and any and all financial need beyond the scope of racial justice work.”
Bryn Mawr leaders agreed to this demand by renaming the Dean’s Emergency Fund to the Dean’s Student Assistance Fund, doubling its allocation to $10,000 annually, and appointing a committee that includes representation of black, indigenous, and people of color staff and faculty, to administer the fund.

The message here seems pretty clear.

Shutting down the campus gets results and rewards.

Featured image via YouTube."

Bryn Mawr College Agrees to ‘Reparations Fund’ Following Student Strike That Shut Campus for Weeks

"recently agreed to student activists’ demands that a 'reparations fund' be created for black and indigenous students"

legalinsurrection.com

 

[August West]

"Bryn Mawr College Agrees to ‘Reparations Fund’ Following Student Strike That Shut Campus for Weeks

the school is still bending over backward to appease the strikers.

Jackson Walker writes at The College Fix:

College agrees to ‘reparations fund’ to help pay for black students’ therapy, books
Bryn Mawr College, a women’s liberal arts college in Pennsylvania, recently agreed to student activists’ demands that a “reparations fund” be created for black and indigenous students.
It was one of many demands issued by the Bryn Mawr Strike Collective, a student-led group that organized a racial justice strike on campus during the fall semester.
The students’ demand called for “the implementation of a ‘reparations fund’ towards a yearly allocation of funds and resources to Black and Indigenous students in the form of grants for summer programs, affinity groups, multicultural spaces, and individual expenses such as books, online courses, therapy, and any and all financial need beyond the scope of racial justice work.”
Bryn Mawr leaders agreed to this demand by renaming the Dean’s Emergency Fund to the Dean’s Student Assistance Fund, doubling its allocation to $10,000 annually, and appointing a committee that includes representation of black, indigenous, and people of color staff and faculty, to administer the fund.

The message here seems pretty clear.

Shutting down the campus gets results and rewards.

Featured image via YouTube."

Bryn Mawr College Agrees to ‘Reparations Fund’ Following Student Strike That Shut Campus for Weeks

"recently agreed to student activists’ demands that a 'reparations fund' be created for black and indigenous students"

legalinsurrection.com

What they do at Bryn Mawr is none of your fucking business or mine. The fund they are establishing is to help poor people buy textbooks. Tuition at the school is $56,000 a year and the funds allocated to help these people will be $10,000 a year total. It`s not taxpayer money dumbass. They call it reparations just to stir up you ku kluxxers.

 

[Polishprince]

"Bryn Mawr College Agrees to ‘Reparations Fund’ Following Student Strike That Shut Campus for Weeks

the school is still bending over backward to appease the strikers.

Jackson Walker writes at The College Fix:

College agrees to ‘reparations fund’ to help pay for black students’ therapy, books
Bryn Mawr College, a women’s liberal arts college in Pennsylvania, recently agreed to student activists’ demands that a “reparations fund” be created for black and indigenous students.
It was one of many demands issued by the Bryn Mawr Strike Collective, a student-led group that organized a racial justice strike on campus during the fall semester.
The students’ demand called for “the implementation of a ‘reparations fund’ towards a yearly allocation of funds and resources to Black and Indigenous students in the form of grants for summer programs, affinity groups, multicultural spaces, and individual expenses such as books, online courses, therapy, and any and all financial need beyond the scope of racial justice work.”
Bryn Mawr leaders agreed to this demand by renaming the Dean’s Emergency Fund to the Dean’s Student Assistance Fund, doubling its allocation to $10,000 annually, and appointing a committee that includes representation of black, indigenous, and people of color staff and faculty, to administer the fund.

The message here seems pretty clear.

Shutting down the campus gets results and rewards.

Featured image via YouTube."

Bryn Mawr College Agrees to ‘Reparations Fund’ Following Student Strike That Shut Campus for Weeks

"recently agreed to student activists’ demands that a 'reparations fund' be created for black and indigenous students"

legalinsurrection.com

What they do at Bryn Mawr is none of your fucking business or mine. The fund they are establishing is to help poor people buy textbooks. Tuition at the school is $56,000 a year and the funds allocated to help these people will be $10,000 a year total. It`s not taxpayer money dumbass. They call it reparations just to stir up you ku kluxxers.

Bryn Mawr is highly subsidized by the taxpayers, AW. No property taxes, massive subsidies through pell grants, subsidized student loans, etc. So yes, they should answer to the taxpayers.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

If the Democrats win in November......you can bet on reparations.



1.Terms of recrimination come and go. Once upon a time, probably due to the end of WWII, the attack-words were “you Fascist, you!!”

“The term can even be extended to any dictatorship that has become unfashionable among intellectuals. [working-class Americans call it "Communism." Middle-class Americans, educated enough to understand that it's uncouth to say anything against Communism, call it "fascism."] When the Soviet Union and People's China had a falling out in the 1960s, they each promptly discovered that the other fraternal socialist country was not merely capitalist but "fascist." At the most vulgar level, "fascist" is a handy swear-word for such hated figures as Rush Limbaugh or John Ashcroft who, whatever their faults, are as remote from historical Fascism as anyone in public life today.”

“The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele

The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele

THE LIBERTARIAN ALLIANCE is an independent, non-party group, brought together by a shared desire to work for a free society. The Libertarian Alliance is pledged to fight statism in all its forms, and to engage in long range propaganda for the Libertarian alternative.

www.la-articles.org.uk

What is most interesting is that the real curse should be ‘You communist, you!” because communism was, by every measure, worse than Nazism/Fascism, but the influence of the Marxism, due to FDR, shifted the vituperation.

“American progressives, for the most part, did not disavow fascism until the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust became manifest during World War II. After the war, those progressives who had praised Mussolini and Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s had no choice but to dissociate themselves from fascism. “Accordingly,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “leftist intellectuals redefined fascism as 'right-wing' and projected their own sins onto conservatives, even as they continued to borrow heavily from fascist and pre-fascist thought.” This progressive campaign to recast fascism as the "right-wing" antithesis of communism was aided by Joseph Stalin, ....”

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1223

2. What is the ubiquitous curse today? Of course, it is “You racist, you!!” And that brings us to the question of why that is so, and where it is headed. Clearly, using the term against another is meant to express moral outrage at slavery and oppression, and one’s own virtue-signaling. It has gotten to the point where it presages both a dangerous threat, and, a laugh-line:

“Thrilled with their role as ‘white friend-of-the-blacks,’ many found that they could actually make a living at it! The part requires sneering at nonexistent racists, and memorizing one line: “Goddam it, this may cost me my career but I’m going to speak up for racial equality and let the chips fall where they may!”
Coulter



3. But here’s where it is going: paying the underclass to vote Democrat, what we euphemistically call the ‘welfare system,’ or the ‘safety net,’ has lasted over half a century. Now, the Left needs to insure those votes, so they are ready to up the ante: Reparations.

But….who gets this huge round of largesse?

Who gets paid?

california is passing a reparations law

 

[August West]

"Bryn Mawr College Agrees to ‘Reparations Fund’ Following Student Strike That Shut Campus for Weeks

the school is still bending over backward to appease the strikers.

Jackson Walker writes at The College Fix:

College agrees to ‘reparations fund’ to help pay for black students’ therapy, books
Bryn Mawr College, a women’s liberal arts college in Pennsylvania, recently agreed to student activists’ demands that a “reparations fund” be created for black and indigenous students.
It was one of many demands issued by the Bryn Mawr Strike Collective, a student-led group that organized a racial justice strike on campus during the fall semester.
The students’ demand called for “the implementation of a ‘reparations fund’ towards a yearly allocation of funds and resources to Black and Indigenous students in the form of grants for summer programs, affinity groups, multicultural spaces, and individual expenses such as books, online courses, therapy, and any and all financial need beyond the scope of racial justice work.”
Bryn Mawr leaders agreed to this demand by renaming the Dean’s Emergency Fund to the Dean’s Student Assistance Fund, doubling its allocation to $10,000 annually, and appointing a committee that includes representation of black, indigenous, and people of color staff and faculty, to administer the fund.

The message here seems pretty clear.

Shutting down the campus gets results and rewards.

Featured image via YouTube."

Bryn Mawr College Agrees to ‘Reparations Fund’ Following Student Strike That Shut Campus for Weeks

"recently agreed to student activists’ demands that a 'reparations fund' be created for black and indigenous students"

legalinsurrection.com

What they do at Bryn Mawr is none of your fucking business or mine. The fund they are establishing is to help poor people buy textbooks. Tuition at the school is $56,000 a year and the funds allocated to help these people will be $10,000 a year total. It`s not taxpayer money dumbass. They call it reparations just to stir up you ku kluxxers.

Bryn Mawr is highly subsidized by the taxpayers, AW. No property taxes, massive subsidies through pell grants, subsidized student loans, etc. So yes, they should answer to the taxpayers.

No. It`s their college to run as they see fit. Why don`t you want poor people to have textbooks?