Removing The Burden Of America’s Original Sin

[Eric Arthur Blair]

No proof as I suspected.

You need to read and be able to reason what has been read. I'm not surprised you are stumped
and baffled.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

In this case I have proven it. All your arguments fall flat and rely on falsehoods and personal attacks.

You have a unique concept of "proof".

 

[Bezukhov]

I already clearly stated that confederate monuments served an instructional purpose for young people
in the negative!

That is to say they were important because we do NOT venerate people like Jefferson Davis or Stonewall
Jackson. Not because we do!
"Mommy, who is that man in the park?"
"Oh, He was a confederate general".
""What does that mean?'
"Well, he fought against the United States and wanted people to be able to hold slaves."
"But that's wrong, isn't it?"
"Yes. That was very wrong."
Are you catching on?

It would be "negative" if the truth is told, that those monuments were erected during the rise of Jim Crow laws in the first decades of the 20th century, and during the struggle for civil rights in the '50s and '60s, to intimidate people of color.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

There you go again trying to argue morality and popularity are synonymous without actually making the argument.

It makes MY argument very nicely. Your argument can go to hell.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Your responses are definitely worth laughing at however. Lol.

Gee...no ad hom there. Why do you cry crocodile tears over my alleged ad homs?

Only you can explain that.

 

[Curried Goats]

I actually didn't say that! Maybe you should read more carefully.

That means a lot coming from you.

You certainly intimated it. But if you want to admit that you have no proof of my supposed totalitarianism then be my guest.

Well in places like Portland and Seattle there have been lots of statues simply pulled down.

And those would be acts of vandalism and nothing at all to do with my argument.

LOL indeed. You are the one who needs to go around removing statues of Stalin (euphemistically speaking, of course.

Yes. I'm the one who wants to remove statues of slavers and rapists democratically and you're the one who argues statues of slavers and rapists teach people to view slavers and rapists negatively. I'm aware of the hilarious position you've decided to take.

You need to read and be able to reason what has been read. I'm not surprised you are stumped
and baffled.

You haven't made one logical, reasoned argument yet. You accuse me of fascism and Stalinism and can't provide a single piece of evidence for it. Lol.

You have a unique concept of "proof".

In that I expect it from you? Lol.

It makes MY argument very nicely. Your argument can go to hell.

Wow. I'm floored by your logic. Lol.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

It would be "negative" if the truth is told, that those monuments were erected during the rise of Jim Crow laws in the first decades of the 20th century, and during the struggle for civil rights in the '50s and '60s, to intimidate people of color.

And how did that effect the civil rights campaign and the battle against Jim Crow?

Funny during the hayday of the civil rights movement I don't recall one single monument to a
confederate being removed.

Maybe because the people fighting Jim Crow knew what was a threat and what wasn't.
People infected with Millenialism, when they aren't combing through twenty year old
Facebook comments, are just so grateful when they get to change the name of a high school,
like San Francisco tried to do.

But even the craziest city in America had to back down when they tried to change the name of
Lincoln and Washington to something more appealing to radicals.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

You haven't made one logical, reasoned argument yet. You accuse me of fascism and Stalinism and can't provide a single piece of evidence for it. Lol.

Bullshit! I already went over why I was comparing erasing Abe Lincoln's name with that of the Stalin purge
in the Soviet Union.
Totalitarianism. Erasing history from the public record. Controlling minds
by controlling what was deemed acceptable to see or not.
Lie harder next time. You are wasting my time.

 

[Curried Goats]

Bullshit! I already went over why I was comparing erasing Abe Lincoln's name with that of Stalin.
Lie harder next time. You are wasting my time.

You're a coward and a moron. You called me a totalitarian and you can't back it up. Where's the proof?

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

You're a coward and a moron. You called me a totalitarian and you can't back it up. Where's the proof?

I just explained my very reasonable use of that word is the very post before this last one of yours.
I think you've gotten enough attention from one grown up for today...and probably forever.

And btw...your ad homs are multiplying and becoming more aggressive as I shoot down your post.
I don't think you can handle the pressure of a rational discussion.

 

[Curried Goats]

I just explained my very reasonable use of that word is the very post before this last one of yours.
I think you've gotten enough attention from one grown up for today...and probably forever.

And btw...your ad homs are multiplying and becoming more aggressive as I shoot down your post.
I don't think you can handle the pressure of a rational discussion.

I can see you added some more after I responded so I'll address that. Those are just more accusations without evidence. Taking down statues isn't erasing history from public record or mind control... lol... you have no more evidence to back those assertions up than you do your previous ones.

 

[justoffal]

4. One of the sub-text lies is that the stone-age Indians who greeted the European were Rousseau’s ‘noble savages.’
They were certainly savages.
These were basically the sort one thinks of as cave-dwellers, some three millennia behind the colonists in every way imaginable.

What is rarely provided is the nature of those Indians. They were hardly ‘Noble Savages,’ nature-loving and welcoming to the Europeans.



5. “The Holocene extinction, otherwise referred to as the sixth mass extinction or Anthropocene extinction, is an ongoing extinction event of species during the present Holocene epoch …as a result of human activity.[3][4][5] The included extinctions span numerous families of bacteria, fungi, plants[6][7][8] and animals, including mammals, birds, reptiles, amphibians, fish and invertebrates. With widespread degradation of highly biodiverse habitats …

The Holocene extinction includes the disappearance of large land animals known as megafauna, starting at the end of the last glacial period. … – with few exceptions – megafauna of the mainland was largely unaffected until a few hundred years ago.[16]

The most popular theory is that human overhunting of species added to existing stress conditions as the extinction coincides with human emergence. Although there is debate regarding how much human predation affected their decline, certain population declines have been directly correlated with human activity,…. After early humans migrated to the Americas about 13,000 BP, their hunting and other associated ecological impacts led to the extinction of many megafaunal species there.”


That would be those ‘noble savages,’ who drove herds of buffalo over cliffs, hunted other animals to extinction, and burned forests to flush out their prey.



6. “The Native Americans were the first genocidal warlords on the continent. They stole the continent from the Holocene Megafauna and slaughtered them into extinction.

For centuries Native Americans had the land and did virtually nothing with it; that is, in terms of emancipating themselves from an animistic biological and cyclical lifestyle. The notion of progress lay unknown to them. They existed outside the historical process.”

Several of the Indian tribes specialized in praying upon the more peaceful ones and actually practiced cannibalism. If we're going to tell history it's important to tell all of its details.
Such details however do not add to The narrative of victimization and therefore get left out.

 

[Kondor3]

America’s ‘original sin,’ as claimed by the America-hating Left, is the Indian Inquisition…..the murder and theft that produced America, illegitimates the nation, and is reason to hate America.

Except…..it is a slander and a lie.

And, by now, thinking persons know that the Left, the Democrats, lie about everything



1.It should be clear to all that America is battling both international enemies, and a fifth column that is out to destroy this nation from within. This is a pretty good description.





2. But these enemies of ‘truth, justice, and the American way’ (I’ve purloined a phrase that was given up by the original owners) are clever to a fault: they teach, in government school and pop culture, that America was created based on an original sin: genocide of, and theft of land from, ……the Indians.
While embedded in the simplest individuals, and those not predisposed to learning, reading and thinking, not prepared by age and experience, to dispute the lies, it serves as the basis for the hatred of this nation.

3. Proof of and exposure of the lies, today’s precis, is based on an essay in Front Page Mag, called “Genocide, Stolen Land, and Other Lies about America,” Genocide, Stolen Land, and Other Lies about America - Frontpagemag​

In which we find: “To begin with, there is no such thing as genocide of Native Americans, and no land was ever stolen. That is a case of the Big Lie if ever there were one.”




That fact is already well known to those who have studied the Democrat Party, and to those who have studied history.
The mode of the Left/Democrats is to take their guilt and claim it is the other side is at fault.

They did this after WWII, after having supported the Nazis and Bolsheviks, and taken on their doctrines and methods…..and claimed the German Socialist Party was really ….right wing.

They white-washed their slavery, segregation history…right up to blocking every anti-lynching bill the Republican presented, and claimed the Republicans, who went to war to end slavery, were the racists.

They claim to support women, yet filibustered the Republican attempts to give women the vote.

Recently…..they tried to claim Republicans are anti-police:​

“ White House Rewrites History With Claim That Republicans, Not Democrats, Tried To Defund The Police”​

JUNE 23, 2021 By Kylee Zempel

White House Says Republicans, Not Democrats, Tried To Defund Police

"Some might say," such as White House press secretary Jen Psaki, that Republicans were "for defunding the police," but those people are wrong.

thefederalist.com

They lie about everything…..and that includes the historicity of the ‘original sin,’ the banditry enacted on the previous inhabitants, those earlier ‘settlers’ from Asia, the Indians.

Keep this in mind when you view the Critical Race Theory indoctrination….and notice that every evil it inserts in the curriculum about America leaves out the operative term: Democrat.

You can't blame Sleepy Old Uncle Joe for all the Libtard idiocy built into their agenda.

Old Joe is merely a placeholder President foisted upon the nation because of the existential threat to the Republic posed by your Orange Baboon-God.

Joe hails from a time when both Democrats and Republicans were (mostly) sane and rational and practical... unlike the gaggle of whack-jobs we see today.

Although we may very well be suffering from the effects of various Fifth Column efforts, for the most part we are tearing OURSELVES apart.

We don't NEED any outside help to destroy ourselves... we're doing a fine job of that ourselves, thank you very much.

On the one hand we have a morally and intellectually deficient Orange mouthpiece, with minions like Taylor-Greene, Hawley, Cruz, Paul and their ilk.

On the other hand we have ancient low-energy Old Joe, with idiot-companions like AOC, Waters, Omar, Sanders, Schumer, Pelosi et al.

Neither of these Clusters of Fools, Money-Grubbers, Vote-Whores and Snotty Elites are in-touch with the Common Man nor do they love our Republic.

Neither.

When it comes to contemplating any so-called Original Sin... that's so far down the (realistic) priority list that it's damned-near invisible... or should be.

It's what happens when a primitive Neolithic hunter-gatherer / nomadic pseudo-culture meets a highly-developed one with a huge technology advantage.

And it's got nothing to do with latter-day White Folk or the Republic at-large.

Were your ancestors such folk? Sux to be you. Next karmic lifetime... choose to be born after the Stone Age ends in your intended birth-region.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Several of the Indian tribes specialized in praying upon the more peaceful ones and actually practiced cannibalism. If we're going to tell history it's important to tell all of its details.
Such details however do not add to The narrative of victimization and therefore get left out.

If only the schools weren't under Leftist control.....

....and maybe the media, too.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You can't blame Sleepy Old Uncle Joe for all the Libtard idiocy built into their agenda.

Old Joe is merely a placeholder President foisted upon the nation because of the existential threat to the Republic posed by your Orange Baboon-God.

Joe hails from a time when both Democrats and Republicans were (mostly) sane and rational and practical... unlike the gaggle of whack-jobs we see today.

Although we may very well be suffering from the effects of various Fifth Column efforts, for the most part we are tearing OURSELVES apart.

We don't NEED any outside help to destroy ourselves... we're doing a fine job of that ourselves, thank you very much.

On the one hand we have a morally and intellectually deficient Orange mouthpiece, with minions like Taylor-Greene, Hawley, Cruz, Paul and their ilk.

On the other hand we have ancient low-energy Old Joe, with idiot-companions like AOC, Waters, Omar, Sanders, Schumer, Pelosi et al.

Neither of these Clusters of Fools, Money-Grubbers, Vote-Whores and Snotty Elites are in-touch with the Common Man nor do they love our Republic.

Neither.

When it comes to contemplating any so-called Original Sin... that's so far down the (realistic) priority list that it's damned-near invisible... or should be.

It's what happens when a primitive Neolithic hunter-gatherer / nomadic pseudo-culture meets a highly-developed one with a huge technology advantage.

And it's got nothing to do with latter-day White Folk or the Republic at-large.

Were your ancestors such folk? Sux to be you. Next karmic lifetime... choose to be born after the Stone Age ends in your intended birth-region.

1. You appear to have missed the point, even while quoting it. Takes quite a bit of practice to do that.

2. There was no theft of Indian land, nor any genocide. It is one of the primary lies the Left uses to indoctrinate folks like you......right up there with the one about the Democrats and Republicans switching their pro vs con beliefs about racism.



3. I detect one of the most truly stupid beliefs in your post.......you do this quite often: there is no similarity between the parties:
Let's cut to the chase, and prove you just as irrational and ignorant as I suggest:



The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism,

socialism,

infanticide,

opposition to free speech,

standing with criminals and felons rather than law-abiding citizens

substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry,

support for rioters, arsonists, murderers, and anarchists,

accepting payment from Communist China for future considerations,

and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.





Now......which is your favorite?




4. And one more thing: this was never about Trump vs Biden, you dunce.
Only a fool votes for persons or personalities......

.....it is always about policies.

5. Now....let's see where you stand:
This...

.....Or this.....

 

[justoffal]

1. You appear to have missed the point, even while quoting it. Takes quite a bit of practice to do that.

2. There was no theft of Indian land, nor any genocide. It is one of the primary lies the Left uses to indoctrinate folks like you......right up there with the one about the Democrats and Republicans switching their pro vs con beliefs about racism.



3. I detect one of the most truly stupid beliefs in your post.......you do this quite often: there is no similarity between the parties:
Let's cut to the chase, and prove you just as irrational and ignorant as I suggest:



The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism,

socialism,

infanticide,

opposition to free speech,

standing with criminals and felons rather than law-abiding citizens

substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry,

support for rioters, arsonists, murderers, and anarchists,

accepting payment from Communist China for future considerations,

and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.





Now......which is your favorite?




4. And one more thing: this was never about Trump vs Biden, you dunce.
Only a fool votes for persons or personalities......

.....it is always about policies.

5. Now....let's see where you stand:
This...

.....Or this.....

Wow! Absolutely devastating post with really no room for rebuttal.

 

[Lesh]

If only the schools weren't under Leftist control.....

....and maybe the media, too.

If only you weren't so loudly batshit crazy

 

[justoffal]

If only you weren't so loudly batshit crazy

Kinda hurts when the facts are so massively irrefutable huh?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Kinda hurts when the facts are so massively irrefutable huh?

I yearn for the day when those indoctrinees actually mount some intelligent response.

I suppose that won't occur until the Right takes back the schools or just after little Richard Simmons is born!

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

If only the schools weren't under Leftist control.....

....and maybe the media, too.

Maybe??