Remember when Trump was attacking NATO? Thank your lucky stars he was fired.

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What a clusterfuck our response to this invasion would be if Putin's BFF was still in Washington. The world breathes a sigh of relief, along with educated and sensible Americans.



BRUSSELS — The Dutch are sending rocket launchers for air defense. The Estonians are sending Javelin antitank missiles. The Poles and the Latvians are sending Stinger surface-to-air missiles. The Czechs are sending machine guns, sniper rifles, pistols and ammunition.

Even formerly neutral countries like Sweden and Finland are sending weapons. And Germany, long allergic to sending weapons into conflict zones, is sending Stingers as well as other shoulder-launched rockets.

In all, about 20 countries — most members of NATO and the European Union, but not all — are funneling arms into Ukraine to fight off Russian invaders and arm an insurgency, if the war comes to that.

At the same time, NATO is moving military equipment and as many as 22,000 more troops into member states bordering Russia and Belarus, to reassure them and enhance deterrence.


The Russian invasion of Ukraine has brought European countries together as never before, minds concentrated by the larger threat to European security presented by the Russia of President Vladimir V. Putin.

“European security and defense has evolved more in the last six days than in the last two decades,” Ursula von der Leyen, the president of the European Union’s executive arm, asserted in a speech to the European Parliament on Tuesday. Brussels has moved to “Europeanize” the efforts of member states to aid Ukraine with weapons and money and put down a marker for the bloc as a significant military actor.


But whether European weaponry will continue to reach the Ukrainian battlefield in time to make a difference is far from certain. However proud Brussels is of its effort, it is a strategy that risks encouraging a wider war and possible retaliation from Mr. Putin. The rush of lethal military aid into Ukraine from Poland, a member of NATO, aims, after all, to kill Russian soldiers.

Mr. Putin already sees NATO as committed to threaten or even destroy Russia through its support for Ukraine, as he has repeated in his recent speeches, even as he has raised the nuclear alert of his own forces to warn Europe and the United States of the risks of interference.


 
Hey stupid, the whole russia collusion thing has been proven to be a scam perpetrated by the Demoncrats. It's Biden that welcomed payoffs from Russia. And Biden that decided to let them overrun the Ukraine just like Obummer let them overrun Crimea. Trump is the only president that they feared. THEY DIDN'T OVER RUN ANY OTHER COUNTRY WHILE TRUMP WAS IN OFFICE.
Asking NATO to do their fair share was a good thing. Stop being a stupid American. We have way too many of those...
 
I highly doubt that Putin would have bothered Ukraine if Trump had not left the WH, NATO was so busy sorting out the internal ranking. In fact, no one notices that the US is not the Alpha dog now. The UK is. You need to thx who is in the WH now.
 
Hey stupid, the whole russia collusion thing has been proven to be a scam perpetrated by the Demoncrats. It's Biden that welcomed payoffs from Russia. And Biden that decided to let them overrun the Ukraine just like Obummer let them overrun Crimea. Trump is the only president that they feared. THEY DIDN'T OVER RUN ANY OTHER COUNTRY WHILE TRUMP WAS IN OFFICE. Stop being a stupid American. We have way too many of those...

None of your fantasies have anything to do with this thread. NATO stands strong, unlike when Trump was attacking it and praising Putin.

Oh wait, he is still praising Putin...
 
The point is that Putin invaded under obammy and now under xiden, but not under trump.
Yes, Putin “miscalculated“ the response from warmonger Biden, NATO, and the EU, and just about the entire civilized world.

it was Trump and every Trump voter and Putin‘s US military Syncophant General Michael Flynn, who has welcomed into the White House proposing that Trump resurrect the insurrection act and martial lawTo stay in power similar to something Putin would do. So when Flynn and Trump and Ashley Babbitt failed on January 6 to keep Putin‘s choice in the White House after he lost the election, General Michael Flynn complained on his website among many things but the gist of it was Biden was being too tough on Russia and just not listening to the fair minded argument that Putin was beginning to surround Ukraine with a third of his entire army.

I guess to Flynn and all the Trump voters Massinger an army of 200,000 Poised to invade Unless concessions are made is just good old fashion legitimate political discourse.
 
Yes, Putin “miscalculated“ the response from warmonger Biden, NATO, and the EU, and just about the entire civilized world.

it was Trump and every Trump voter and Putin‘s US military Syncophant General Michael Flynn, who has welcomed into the White House proposing that Trump resurrect the insurrection act and martial lawTo stay in power similar to something Putin would do. So when Flynn and Trump and Ashley Babbitt failed on January 6 to keep Putin‘s choice in the White House after he lost the election, General Michael Flynn complained on his website among many things but the gist of it was Biden was being too tough on Russia and just not listening to the fair minded argument that Putin was beginning to surround Ukraine with a third of his entire army.

I guess to Flynn and all the Trump voters Massinger an army of 200,000 Poised to invade Unless concessions are made is just good old fashion legitimate political discourse.
Bugs you you got nothing, right? You’ve been fooled again
 
What a clusterfuck our response to this invasion would be if Putin's BFF was still in Washington. The world breathes a sigh of relief, along with educated and sensible Americans.



BRUSSELS — The Dutch are sending rocket launchers for air defense. The Estonians are sending Javelin antitank missiles. The Poles and the Latvians are sending Stinger surface-to-air missiles. The Czechs are sending machine guns, sniper rifles, pistols and ammunition.

Even formerly neutral countries like Sweden and Finland are sending weapons. And Germany, long allergic to sending weapons into conflict zones, is sending Stingers as well as other shoulder-launched rockets.

In all, about 20 countries — most members of NATO and the European Union, but not all — are funneling arms into Ukraine to fight off Russian invaders and arm an insurgency, if the war comes to that.

At the same time, NATO is moving military equipment and as many as 22,000 more troops into member states bordering Russia and Belarus, to reassure them and enhance deterrence.


The Russian invasion of Ukraine has brought European countries together as never before, minds concentrated by the larger threat to European security presented by the Russia of President Vladimir V. Putin.

“European security and defense has evolved more in the last six days than in the last two decades,” Ursula von der Leyen, the president of the European Union’s executive arm, asserted in a speech to the European Parliament on Tuesday. Brussels has moved to “Europeanize” the efforts of member states to aid Ukraine with weapons and money and put down a marker for the bloc as a significant military actor.


But whether European weaponry will continue to reach the Ukrainian battlefield in time to make a difference is far from certain. However proud Brussels is of its effort, it is a strategy that risks encouraging a wider war and possible retaliation from Mr. Putin. The rush of lethal military aid into Ukraine from Poland, a member of NATO, aims, after all, to kill Russian soldiers.

Mr. Putin already sees NATO as committed to threaten or even destroy Russia through its support for Ukraine, as he has repeated in his recent speeches, even as he has raised the nuclear alert of his own forces to warn Europe and the United States of the risks of interference.



Your partisanship is boring and stupid since Trump attacked nations of NATO for not contributing their required minimum amount into it he never tried to shut it down you LIAR!

Back in 2017 from TIME magazine

President Trump Pushes NATO Members to Pay 'Their Fair Share'

 
What a clusterfuck our response to this invasion would be if Putin's BFF was still in Washington. The world breathes a sigh of relief, along with educated and sensible Americans.



BRUSSELS — The Dutch are sending rocket launchers for air defense. The Estonians are sending Javelin antitank missiles. The Poles and the Latvians are sending Stinger surface-to-air missiles. The Czechs are sending machine guns, sniper rifles, pistols and ammunition.

Even formerly neutral countries like Sweden and Finland are sending weapons. And Germany, long allergic to sending weapons into conflict zones, is sending Stingers as well as other shoulder-launched rockets.

In all, about 20 countries — most members of NATO and the European Union, but not all — are funneling arms into Ukraine to fight off Russian invaders and arm an insurgency, if the war comes to that.

At the same time, NATO is moving military equipment and as many as 22,000 more troops into member states bordering Russia and Belarus, to reassure them and enhance deterrence.


The Russian invasion of Ukraine has brought European countries together as never before, minds concentrated by the larger threat to European security presented by the Russia of President Vladimir V. Putin.

“European security and defense has evolved more in the last six days than in the last two decades,” Ursula von der Leyen, the president of the European Union’s executive arm, asserted in a speech to the European Parliament on Tuesday. Brussels has moved to “Europeanize” the efforts of member states to aid Ukraine with weapons and money and put down a marker for the bloc as a significant military actor.


But whether European weaponry will continue to reach the Ukrainian battlefield in time to make a difference is far from certain. However proud Brussels is of its effort, it is a strategy that risks encouraging a wider war and possible retaliation from Mr. Putin. The rush of lethal military aid into Ukraine from Poland, a member of NATO, aims, after all, to kill Russian soldiers.

Mr. Putin already sees NATO as committed to threaten or even destroy Russia through its support for Ukraine, as he has repeated in his recent speeches, even as he has raised the nuclear alert of his own forces to warn Europe and the United States of the risks of interference.


He and Putin aren't big fans, that's for sure.

Now Trump has to play "pretend".
 
Yes, Putin “miscalculated“ the response from warmonger Biden, NATO, and the EU, and just about the entire civilized world.

it was Trump and every Trump voter and Putin‘s US military Syncophant General Michael Flynn, who has welcomed into the White House proposing that Trump resurrect the insurrection act and martial lawTo stay in power similar to something Putin would do. So when Flynn and Trump and Ashley Babbitt failed on January 6 to keep Putin‘s choice in the White House after he lost the election, General Michael Flynn complained on his website among many things but the gist of it was Biden was being too tough on Russia and just not listening to the fair minded argument that Putin was beginning to surround Ukraine with a third of his entire army.

I guess to Flynn and all the Trump voters Massinger an army of 200,000 Poised to invade Unless concessions are made is just good old fashion legitimate political discourse.
"warmonger Biden"................:heehee:
 
Obummer let them overrun Crimea.
Actually Putin didn’t overrun Crimea. The government in Kiev had fallen in the constitution at that time what is forsaken in the Russian speaking residents of Crimea and wanted to have an election that they had been petitioning for years. The Crimenes begged Putin to come in and let them have a vote, they had a vote and they voted to join Russia when the Ukrainian government basically was nonexistent. We can argue whether Putin should’ve recognized the election etc. but the annexation of Crimea was bloodless except for I think one Ukrainian officer got a little testy and ended up dead. We should We should not compare Crimea to it putting it in the Donbass region and certainly it is absolutely nothing like what Putin is doing by laying siege to Kiev right now.
 
BRUSSELS — The Dutch are sending rocket launchers for air defense. The Estonians are sending Javelin antitank missiles. The Poles and the Latvians are sending Stinger surface-to-air missiles. The Czechs are sending machine guns, sniper rifles, pistols and ammunition.

Even formerly neutral countries like Sweden and Finland are sending weapons. And Germany, long allergic to sending weapons into conflict zones, is sending Stingers as well as other shoulder-launched rockets.
But it won't do any good because they are, after all, fighting RUSSIA. So it's all just political. To show they are doing something without, obviously, actually doing anything that will help Ukraine.

Ukraine was doomed because it's not in NATO. That's just how it is. Trump was right that we should pull out of NATO. We don't belong there; we aren't Europeans, we aren't going to fight for Ukraine either, time to go.
 
You don't become leader of a country if you're an idiot. Trump has condemned Putin for what he is doing. Putin wouldn't be invading Ukraine if Trump was still president.
You're twisting the truth (Trump initially praised Putin, but reversed course when his handlers told him to. I can provide quotes if you're still confused) and you have no idea what Putin would have done if Trump were President.

You are quite the Trump disciple.
 
None of your fantasies have anything to do with this thread. NATO stands strong, unlike when Trump was attacking it and praising Putin.

Oh wait, he is still praising Putin...
NATO stands strong on our dime. Besides their white. Well, the globalists are changing that with the help of their own traitors.
 
You're twisting the truth (Trump initially praised Putin, but reversed course when his handlers told him to. I can provide quotes if you're still confused) and you have no idea what Putin would have done if Trump were President.

You are quite the Trump disciple.

And you are quite the deranged TDS hack.

How's life with Biden's dick up your ass?

Trump was commenting on Putin playing the west before the invasion. Hell Biden qualified the possible US response to limited incursions into Ukraine.
 

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