Religious Right Wing Bigots Still Obsessing About Marriage-Get a Life!

[Correll]

Only people that follow proper and traditional gender roles should be allowed to marry. If a wife wishes to work instead of being a stay-at-home mom then her marriage should be made null and void. Any deviation from traditional gender roles should result in a marriage ban.

An odd response.

Indeed. I am using the very same standard that you're setting. Anyone that doesn't conform to traditional gender roles should not be allowed access to marriage.

NOthing I said, implied that in any way.

Please try again.

Doesn't it just fucking suck having to live by the very same standards you set for others?

I set no such standards.

 

[Correll]

but but but but gender roles

thats a whine

but but tradition...

thats a whine


but but but call it something different...

thats a whine



When youre so focused on what 2 other adults are doing in their lives and their households, you have a glaring problem in your OWN.

Marriage is whatever the fuck the married couple wants it to be...to THEM. You insane busy body control freaks can trip over your dicks and pretend its not some faux post hoc argument to satisfy that o.c.d....

but grown folks dont need to sit in the pocket and argue with such transparent and needless whining.

Youre an eyeroll, and America always phases out bigotry over time. Buhhhh bye, America's the best

The thread was started by your buddy progressive.


Have you dropped your line of argument that the gender roles are arbitrary? Which, btw, was ALL YOU HAD.


All I see above are unsupported assertions, and personal attacks.




This is where, if you were an honest person, you would admit that, yes, going to the courts was a bad idea. The rulings in our favor were bad rulings.

Uh, no.

No, what?

Are you not dropping your claim that gender roles are arbitrary?

Are you claiming that was not the sole defense you managed to make so far?


Are you denying that all you have now, is unsupported assertions and personal attacks?


or are you admitting that you are not an honest person, and won't admit any of the above, and will hold to a position that you cannot defend at all?

 

[The Purge]

Was it difficult posting that with one hand?

If anyone should know, it would be you!

 

[mdk]

Ok. In general terms. Men and women are different in some ways and alike in others. Now what the fuck are you going to do with that and how does it realter to the issue of same sex marriage as a civil right-which is where this all started. I can't wait to see what kind of bizarre and convoluted horseshit you -and the so called Polish Prince come up with on that.

So, men and women are different.


So, if an institution, such as MARRIAGE, is designed with those differences in mind, with a role for a man, and a role for a woman,


it is not "arbitrary" to restrict the man role to men, and the woman role to women.



That makes this whole debate, NOT about rights.

Marriage is a legal and emotional commitment to a partner

Each marriage is different and marital roles are different
In some marriages the male is the dominant partner, in others the female is dominant

What matters is the government does not get to decide which legal relationships it condones

The government certainly taxes us for the results of the legal relationships is does not decide. And we are taxed a lot. Now go partayyyy!

Now this is the real argument that should be occurring here. The goverment should not be handing out cash and prizes like a Showcase Showdown to any married couples whatsoever.

Thats why I only take the "govt shouldnt be involved in ANY marriages" opinion seriously...because it has some merit, albeit I dont agree with it.

This arbitrary opposite sex thing is just ignorant to how life really works. Women dont all play the role of putting pies on the window sill, cupcakes

What it comes down to at the end of the day is that gay marriage isn't going anywhere b/c the folks that oppose it don't have any legal standing to challenge the ruling. You're going to have to prove to the court how the hitched homos houses down have caused you a measurable harm. They are going to need to bring more to the table than emotionally clutching their pearls.

 

[G.T.]

but but but but gender roles

thats a whine

but but tradition...

thats a whine


but but but call it something different...

thats a whine



When youre so focused on what 2 other adults are doing in their lives and their households, you have a glaring problem in your OWN.

Marriage is whatever the fuck the married couple wants it to be...to THEM. You insane busy body control freaks can trip over your dicks and pretend its not some faux post hoc argument to satisfy that o.c.d....

but grown folks dont need to sit in the pocket and argue with such transparent and needless whining.

Youre an eyeroll, and America always phases out bigotry over time. Buhhhh bye, America's the best

The thread was started by your buddy progressive.


Have you dropped your line of argument that the gender roles are arbitrary? Which, btw, was ALL YOU HAD.


All I see above are unsupported assertions, and personal attacks.




This is where, if you were an honest person, you would admit that, yes, going to the courts was a bad idea. The rulings in our favor were bad rulings.

Uh, no.

No, what?

Are you not dropping your claim that gender roles are arbitrary?

Are you claiming that was not the sole defense you managed to make so far?


Are you denying that all you have now, is unsupported assertions and personal attacks?


or are you admitting that you are not an honest person, and won't admit any of the above, and will hold to a position that you cannot defend at all?

No, you provided 2 gender roles as your examples that are proven arbitrary by the fact that women do them...both. They hunt. They farm. Theres nothing inherent in a vagina that prevents them from doing so, this isnt the 1300's.

And not only is deciding which "roles" are gender based arbitrary, but deciding that the institution should be based on gender roles, in the first place, is arbitrary.

You are surely not the best debater that USMB has to offer...when you dont even understand the Court's decision to make it a Civil Rights issue.

Its weak, its pathetic and its lame to scream "gender roles" and then proceed by naming two roles that are done by both men AND women...rendering YOUR provided roles ARBITRARY, thus NOT a good reason for the State to keep consenting adults from a State recognized institution.

You literally cut off your own failed argument's foot right there...by naming "gender roles" that are no longer "gender based" and so using them to deny someone a right is both arbitrary and bigotted. Its a failure, and why your "side" didnt stand up in Court.

Your bigotry guides your logic as opposed to the other way around. You're not supposed to seek to invent reasons to deny free adults of something, that's a personal flaw HENCE the commenary on you being a bigot. You clearly are, and you lost and wont get it back. This is you crying a river of blood. Good, its deserved.

 

[mdk]

Only people that follow proper and traditional gender roles should be allowed to marry. If a wife wishes to work instead of being a stay-at-home mom then her marriage should be made null and void. Any deviation from traditional gender roles should result in a marriage ban.

An odd response.

Indeed. I am using the very same standard that you're setting. Anyone that doesn't conform to traditional gender roles should not be allowed access to marriage.

NOthing I said, implied that in any way.

Please try again.

Doesn't it just fucking suck having to live by the very same standards you set for others?

I set no such standards.

Sure you did, but unsurprisingly they just only apply to queers. Why should anyone take your principles seriously when you wipe your ass with them the second they become inconvenient?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

but but but but gender roles

thats a whine

but but tradition...

thats a whine


but but but call it something different...

thats a whine



When youre so focused on what 2 other adults are doing in their lives and their households, you have a glaring problem in your OWN.

Marriage is whatever the fuck the married couple wants it to be...to THEM. You insane busy body control freaks can trip over your dicks and pretend its not some faux post hoc argument to satisfy that o.c.d....

but grown folks dont need to sit in the pocket and argue with such transparent and needless whining.

Youre an eyeroll, and America always phases out bigotry over time. Buhhhh bye, America's the best

The thread was started by your buddy progressive.


Have you dropped your line of argument that the gender roles are arbitrary? Which, btw, was ALL YOU HAD.


All I see above are unsupported assertions, and personal attacks.




This is where, if you were an honest person, you would admit that, yes, going to the courts was a bad idea. The rulings in our favor were bad rulings.

If you were an honest person, you would admit that this gender role thing is complete bullshit and a thinly vailed excuse to try to exclude gays from marriage. You would also admit that the only reason why you think taking it to court was a bad idea is because you don't like the outcome. Going to court was the necessary and appropriate thing to do under the circumstances. It is how our system of law and justice works, The case for same sex marriage was made and it was heard. End of stort.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

If you were an honest person, you would admit that this gender role thing is complete bullshit…

Why would an honest person admit to something that is an obvious flat-out lie?

 

[rightwinger]

Was it difficult posting that with one hand?

It is from his private collection

 

[rightwinger]

Same sex marriage is now part of our society

Everyone has seen it and it is no longer a big deal to see a gay couple

Time for a certain segment of our society to move on

 

[Cellblock2429]

Dear TheProgressivePatriot
They don't want beliefs they don't agree with endorsed, established, imposed or enforced through Govt.
Even if you don't get the mechanism in their thinking behind this,
just know
it's roughtly parallel (not exactly the same)
as you NOT wanting churches to get law enforcement power.
That's crossing a line where you understand these should stay separate.
Well, that's how they see same sex marriage beliefs
going too far by getting involved with government.
That crosses the line for them.

I remember talking with a LGBTQQXYZ1234 thing(cant use gender identity) and told them that homosexuality isnt normal because 2 men or 2 women cant be natural. The things response was "Dogs do it too". Just think that homosexuals are like dogs, have to hump anything that moves, and NOT use their intelligence to realize how unnatural it really is.

/——/ “Dogs do it”
But they get mad when we call them animals.

 

[The Purge]

Was it difficult posting that with one hand?

It is from his private collection

why not just come out of your closet and ask for a copy?

 

[The Purge]

And to add fuel to the fire....

A new Harris Poll commissioned by the pro-LGBT media group GLAAD shows that the percentage of non-gay Americans aged 18-34, who are considered allies of the LGBT community, fell from 63% in 2016 to 45% in 2018.

In addition, the percentage of non-gay Americans aged 18-34 who felt uncomfortable in personal situations involving LGBTQ persons increased. For instance, the percentage of normal Americans who felt “uncomfortable” in learning a family member is LGBTQ rose from 24% to 36%.

Sarah Kate Ellis, president and CEO of GLAAD, said of the survey’s findings, “The decline in acceptance [of LGBTs] and rise in discrimination found in the survey corresponded to an increase in hateful rhetoric in our culture.”

(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...

No Sarah...perhaps if you queers didn't PUSH your perverted life style on the rest of us who really don't care what you do with your partner, IN PRIVATE, things would be smoothed over fairly quickly. ....but apparently queers want the publicity and notoriety more than being able to function in a normal world

 

[The Purge]

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

And to add fuel to the fire....

A new Harris Poll commissioned by the pro-LGBT media group GLAAD shows that the percentage of non-gay Americans aged 18-34, who are considered allies of the LGBT community, fell from 63% in 2016 to 45% in 2018.

In addition, the percentage of non-gay Americans aged 18-34 who felt uncomfortable in personal situations involving LGBTQ persons increased. For instance, the percentage of normal Americans who felt “uncomfortable” in learning a family member is LGBTQ rose from 24% to 36%.

Sarah Kate Ellis, president and CEO of GLAAD, said of the survey’s findings, “The decline in acceptance [of LGBTs] and rise in discrimination found in the survey corresponded to an increase in hateful rhetoric in our culture.”

(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...

No Sarah...perhaps if you queers didn't PUSH your perverted life style on the rest of us who really don't care what you do with your partner, IN PRIVATE, things would be smoothed over fairly quickly. ....but apparently queers want the publicity and notoriety more than being able to function in a normal world

That is the biased CNS News spin on the finding. The article dishonestly leaves a few things out.

New GLAAD study shows decline in LGBTQ acceptance in 18-34 year olds


How Comfortable are Americans with LGBTQ People?

• This year, nearly half of non-LGBTQ adults (49%) are classified as ‘allies’ in the Index, meaning they responded that they were ‘very’ or ‘somewhat’ comfortable with LGBTQ people across all of the seven situations. This is has not changed from the 49% reported in 2018, which was down from 53% the year prior.
• 38% of non-LGBTQ adults are classified as ‘detached supporters’, whose comfort levels varies across the seven scenarios. 13% are classified as ‘resisters’ and are not comfortable in any of the situations that were presented. The percentage of ‘resisters’ has been stable since the start of the Accelerating Acceptance Index.
• The only age group to post a decline this year was young Americans ages 18-34. The number of non-LGBTQ U.S. adults ages 18-34 who reported being ‘very’ or ‘somewhat’ comfortable across all seven situations dropped from 53% to 45%. This reflects a continued erosion in comfort among this age group over the past two years. This year, the significant erosion is being driven by females ages 18-34, where comfort levels fell from 64% last year to 52% this year.
• In total, 18% of respondents report knowing a transgender person; 31% know a bisexual person; 75% know a gay or lesbian person.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Here is the extensive list of things you can do about my marriage:

1. Jack
2. Shit
3. Whine on Social Media

It was interesting that Roe Vs Wade was black robes overturning the will of the people, and today, that "law" is being overturned again by the people, in stopping most abortions. It is going to be interesting when homosexual marriages again, go up for debate and when the will of the people finally have enough of the fudge packers "forcing" their immoral shit on US, they again will be voting to expel these miscreants.

 

[rightwinger]

Was it difficult posting that with one hand?

It is from his private collection

why not just come out of your closet and ask for a copy?

Have you always been obsessed with gay porn?

 

[mdk]

Here is the extensive list of things you can do about my marriage:

1. Jack
2. Shit
3. Whine on Social Media

It was interesting that Roe Vs Wade was black robes overturning the will of the people, and today, that "law" is being overturned again by the people, in stopping most abortions. It is going to be interesting when homosexual marriages again, go up for debate and when the will of the people finally have enough of the fudge packers "forcing" their immoral shit on US, they again will be voting to expel these miscreants.

Let me know when you get your hands on a Monkey’s Paw.

 

[Terri4Trump]

18 pages of crying about homo perverts. Good grief.

 

[emilynghiem]

Is it anyones fault but your own that you dont understand what arbitrary means?

It was determined that basing it on "gender roles," and gender roles themselves, are arbitrary.

Theyre abstract.

Theyre not concrete things that literally exist.

The Courts determined that since its arbitrary to base something on a thing so abstract, the only other reason to deny two consenting adults from the same state institution would be bigotry, which converted it to a civil rights issue and Correll is an idiot. A bigotted one.

Dear G.T. and Correll

1. Clearly GENETIC gender is DIFFERENT from INTERNAL identity which is the faith based arbitrary part.
You can't PROVE someone's faith based INTERNAL choice which is part of their personal space, not for Govt to regulate.

But for SECULAR laws, just like laws determining if legal identity starts at BIRTH,
we have to AGREE on a LEGAL DEFINITION.

2. Up to this point, we based BOTH the "gender" and "human life"
AT BIRTH, to have an agreed scientific definition to use for LEGAL purposes and PUBLIC standards.

G.T. I love you, man, but the more you push for
ARBITRARY FAITH BASED internal identity (which are NOT GOVERNMENT's BLOODY BUSINESS TO BEGIN WITH)
you and other liberals OPEN THE DOOR for all the
Christian beliefs about determining life on FAITH BASED CRITERIA
to be made into laws, if YOU are going to push for that, too.

If we open the door for ONE CREED to start pushing BELIEFS through GOVT
then ALL CREEDS need to have equal access and treatment

G.T. you and I both agree and make it clear
this is NOT what we want.

So if we don't want Christians pushing faith based beliefs through Govt at our expense,
nor can we justify pushing LGBT faith based beliefs into public policy either.

However, G.T. if you insist on including LGBT beliefs in public schools and policies,
then be prepared for Christian beliefs to demand equal inclusion for their creeds as well.
It's only lawful to treat people equally, instead of discriminating on the basis of creed.