Rationed health care

[Ray From Cleveland]

He promised that everyone could buy insurance and he came through on that too....

No, not everybody could. It was unaffordable to working people as we had to pay for the non-working or subsidized those that didn't make any kind of money.

Democrats always have wanted a single payer plan. Obamacare is the republican plan with insurance companies and all the crap that makes this a mess but it's still better than nothing like the old way- people dying because they couldn't buy health insurance with pre-existing conditions etcetera.... And Joe just made it all cheaper and gave Medicare the ability to negotiate prices OMG against GOP obstruction. Unbelievable. It was the GOP plan and Obama put it up just to get them to vote for it a bit and they still wouldn't vote for it. What a bunch of lying scumbag hypocrites- and poor fools like you. Anyway hope you survived the Blizzard and a happy new year!

Commie Care had nothing to do with Republicans. Every single Republican voted against it. Now that it's been proven a failure, you on the left are trying to blame Republicans for your total fuck up. People were happier with their employer sponsored plan. It was better, they didn't have to pay for it with after tax money, and employers of small companies dropped coverage for their employees because of it. Total fuck up.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

stop listening to crap and get vaccinated and we could end this pandemic finally...

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2021 called. They want their idiotic lie back.







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[westwall]

stop listening to crap and get vaccinated and we could end this pandemic finally...

Wow, we have had flu vaccines for DECADES.

Why do we still get the flu?

You idiot.

 

[sparky]

Who can ever explain why the American working class continues to be supportive of a health care system that does them so much harm and injustice?

simplistically, capitalist medicine, the rich live, the poor die.....

There are actual death panels already at work.
Your ignorance doesn't make them disappear.

yes, and long before the pandemic hit
we are in denial John....

When I lost my employer coverage because of him, I went to Commie Care

similar situation here......uhhh....comrade !

People on hospice are already dying with a terminal diagnosis. The nurse administering morphine isn’t what “kills” the patient.

hospice will inform the terminals to take the 'whole thing' you leave in their fridge Braalian

fact is, if you hang in the ICU, you learn the majority drift off juiced right on up with it

~S~

 

[dblack]

Everybody was so worried that The Affordable Healthcare Act would lead to death panels. We would all have to wait for months, or even years before we could get needed surgery or treatment.

That wasn't my concern. My concern was that the insurance companies would get away with cementing their position as unnecessary middle-men via legislation. And they did. Congrats.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

That wasn't my concern. My concern was that the insurance companies would get away with cementing their position as unnecessary middle-men via legislation. And they did. Congrats.

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Only if the sheep let them.




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[francoHFW]

Wow, we have had flu vaccines for DECADES.

Why do we still get the flu?

You idiot.

Because it's efficiency is 60 to 90%, so it cuts the numbers by that much. God you're an idiot... You'll never figure out anything listening to your crap fearmongering stupid propaganda, ignoramus.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Because it's efficiency is 60 to 90%, so it cuts the numbers by that much. God you're an idiot... You'll never figure out anything listening to your crap fearmongering stupid propaganda, ignoramus.

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I'm sure you heard all of that drivel on your TV and that's good enough for you.




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[sparky]

~S~

 

[dblack]

.Only if the sheep let them.

The sheep already did.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

The sheep already did.

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You may only speak for yourself.

No insurance company has gotten a dime from me for about twelve years.





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[dblack]

.You may only speak for yourself.

No insurance company has gotten a dime from me for about twelve years.

You don't matter. The herd is legal herded into the insurance pens by the state. They won.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

You don't matter. The herd is legal herded into the insurance pens by the state. They won.

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Not in my world.




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[Blues Man]

Everybody was so worried that The Affordable Healthcare Act would lead to death panels. We would all have to wait for months, or even years before we could get needed surgery or treatment. Many would die. That doesn't seem to have happened. Can we all finally just admit that all the hand wringing and dire predictions were just so much bullshit used to scare right wingers into opposing any change to our healthcare system? Yes, there has always been what some might call rationing. An emergency room has always taken a heart attack patient before a broken arm, but that is not the same as the death panels predicted for urgent life saving care. Can you really trust a party who callously makes such false outrageous claims on a regular basis to stir their followers up

Palin doubles down on 'death panels'

Palin defends her claim on health proposal.

www.politico.com

No it just got way more expensive because now we are all forced to pay for things we don't want or need.

And deductibles have gone through the roof

 

[dblack]

.Not in my world.

LOL - yes, your "world" is a very special place.

 

[hadit]

Everybody was so worried that The Affordable Healthcare Act would lead to death panels. We would all have to wait for months, or even years before we could get needed surgery or treatment. Many would die. That doesn't seem to have happened. Can we all finally just admit that all the hand wringing and dire predictions were just so much bullshit used to scare right wingers into opposing any change to our healthcare system? Yes, there has always been what some might call rationing. An emergency room has always taken a heart attack patient before a broken arm, but that is not the same as the death panels predicted for urgent life saving care. Can you really trust a party who callously makes such false outrageous claims on a regular basis to stir their followers up

Palin doubles down on 'death panels'

Palin defends her claim on health proposal.

www.politico.com

1. You cannot deny that health insurance premiums and healthcare costs have exploded since obamadon'tcare was enacted.
2. You cannot deny that countries that have embraced socialized medicine see longer waiting lines for care that we can get quickly and that leads to denial of service as people die while they're waiting for treatment.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

LOL - yes, your "world" is a very special place.

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Damn sure is. I don't give my money to parasites!





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[sparky]

2. You cannot deny that countries that have embraced socialized medicine see longer waiting lines for care that we can get quickly and that leads to denial of service as people die while they're waiting for treatment.

did you know we've a pandemic of ER closures from sea to shining sea hadit?

that's because they fall under JACHO, and can not deny treatment

what we do have here in the good 'ol USofA are a glut of walk in clinics, springing up like weeds

They don't have to bow to JACHO, ergo can refuse treatment(s) based on one's fiscal and/or insurance status

ergo, our capitalist lines have quickly assumed the length of those socialist lines you describe

~S~

 

[dblack]

.Damn sure is. I don't give my money to parasites!

If you pay taxes you do.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

If you pay taxes you do.

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Ding-ding-ding!

No more calls, folks. We have a winner.





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