Rafael Grossi : IAEA chief: No evidence Iran is building a nuclear weapon

[22lcidw]

I do know, because none were found despite the best efforts of the US military and international experts.

I'm pretty sure they know better than you, unless you have superpowers.



For you, it certainly isn't.

Yet another logical fallacy.

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The real problem is if things go off the rails and then Progs get elected in landslides and just enough in so called safe Republican districts. We know what you are going to do. We really do. Even the hidden agendas will be in that direction. And in a nation where many citizens do not believe much of government due to the constant lying. Progs are writing books on Joe's years, and they were the ones lying out him.

 

[frackapisa]

... Shooting down the airliner was an accident because the airliner was flying in a declared no fly zone IN WARTIME and ignored multiple warnings on international frequencies to change course. ...

Where did you get that bullshit story?

On July 3, 1988, the USS Vincennes, a U.S. Navy guided missile cruiser, mistakenly shot down Iran Air Flight 655 over the Persian Gulf, resulting in the deaths of all 290 passengers and crew on board. The incident occurred during heightened tensions in the region amid military operations involving Iranian and Iraqi forces. The Vincennes was engaged in a conflict with Iranian gunboats when it misidentified the civilian aircraft, which had taken off from Bandar Abbas Airport on its way to Dubai. Despite receiving warnings and the identification of the flight as a commercial airliner, the Vincennes crew mistakenly regarded it as a potential military threat and launched missiles against it.

The tragedy was compounded by a series of communication and operational failures, including confusion over aircraft identification and the ship's aggressive approach to engagement. The U.S. government initially characterized the incident as a defensive action but later faced scrutiny and legal challenges regarding its actions in Iranian territorial waters. In 1996, the U.S. compensated the victims' families, though it did not fully acknowledge its responsibility.

 

[frackapisa]

As we've been hearing for well over a decade.

More like over 20 years.
Back when Iran was within 6 months of making a nuclear weapon.

 

[BluesLegend]

That's exactly what I was thinking. If it's for peaceful purposes, why do it hundreds of feet underground, in a secure facility, to make nuclear fuel for generating stations?

Hence this iaea chief is either a lying sack of shit or a complete idiot.

 

[frackapisa]

From sixty percent to ninety percent is an easy jump. It is estimated that it will take Iran less than a month to enrich all of its 60% stock to 90%. Enrichment gets vastly easier as the percentage increases because most of the waste is already spun off in the early stages.

Or Iran could go the route that North Korea took.
They can reprocess their spent nuclear fuel from their commercial nuclear reactor, and get weapons grade Plutonium.

'Note: U.S. nuclear warheads primarily utilize plutonium as their fissile material. Specifically, plutonium-239 is the isotope used in the "pit," which is the central core of an implosion-type nuclear weapon. While some early designs used uranium-235, plutonium is favored for its efficiency in implosion weapons.

 

[frackapisa]

Hence this iaea chief is either a lying sack of shit or a complete idiot.

We stored thousands of pounds of morphine in Fort Knox in Kentucky,
Yet we didn't have any plans to use it.
It was there, just in case a war broke out.

And like the United States in WWII, making a nuclear weapon, can end a long and costly war.

 

[yidnar]

I made my point.

It’s a stupidly dangerous idea

allowing Iran to get the bomb is dumber and more dangerous ..

 

[frackapisa]

allowing Iran to get the bomb is dumber and more dangerous ..

Do you think the Mullahs are suicidal?
They launch one nuke, and Israel can respond 90 times over.

 

[yidnar]

Hmmmm...what could be the consequences of bombing the shit out of Iran, you ask?

Why don't we ask Israel? That is, if they can take time out from dodging missiles...

Hypersonic missiles are stirring fears in the Iran-Israel conflict. Here's why​

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But in modern warfare, experts say hypersonic weapons must also have advanced navigation systems – making them nimble and capable of changing their trajectory. This can challenge traditional defense systems, said Jack Watling, a senior fellow at the Royal United Services Institute.


Iran has more missiles than Israel has interceptors.

Even worse, Iran is targeting those surface-to-air missile sites in Israel. Denuding the Iron Dome.

If the US gets involved, we have ships in the area which would make tasty targets.

those ships are very well defended .. and said ships could severely damage Iranian infrastructure if they targeted them .. and there would be very very little your tyrannical , terrorist , America hating , antisemitic allies could do about it ..

 

[Votto]

O'rly?

List of United Nations Security Council resolutions concerning Iran​

There have been more, but Trump and your best friend Putin keeps vetoing them.




Very telling as you continue to expose your ignorance.



I have visited the Middle East as an active duty service member. I felt safe in all of the countries we visited.

Funny that.

I was surprised to learn how pro-Western they are.

In my current job, I work with our allies in the ME and around the world. Our ME customers are all scrambling right now for our services in light of the current escalation of events.

Try visiting those same countries as a woman or a gay, and then try again.

How obtuse can one be?

 

[g5000]

those ships are very well defended .. and said ships could severely damage Iranian infrastructure if they targeted them .. and there would be very very little your tyrannical , terrorist , America hating , antisemitic allies could do about it ..

I know more about AEGIS destroyers than everyone on this board. I know exactly how they defend themselves.

I also know they have a very limited number of SAMs on board.

 

[g5000]

Try visiting those same countries as a woman or a gay, and then try again.

And this has, what, to do with UN resolutions you claimed don't exist?

Moving the goalposts, are we?

 

[yidnar]

Do you think the Mullahs are suicidal?
They launch one nuke, and Israel can respond 90 times over.

they could use it to threaten the region .. and it would embolden them to commit even more acts of terror .. and are they suicidal ? as far as being suicidal Martyrdom is deeply revered by said Mullahs ..

 

[yidnar]

I know more about AEGIS destroyers than everyone on this board. I know exactly how they defend themselves.

I also know they have a very limited number of SAMs on board.

weve got carrier groups in the region! 1 already there and one on the way ..

 

[frackapisa]

those ships are very well defended .. and said ships could severely damage Iranian infrastructure if they targeted them .. and there would be very very little your tyrannical , terrorist , America hating , antisemitic allies could do about it ..

Please. As the saying goes. We have to be perfect to stop every one of their incoming missiles. They only need for one to get through.

 

[jc456]

Bush's claims were used to justify the 2003 invasion of Iraq, with the stated goal of disarming Iraq and freeing its people. However, no such weapons were found after the invasion, leading to significant criticism of the intelligence used to justify the war. A key quote highlighting this intelligence failure came from Bush himself in 2008, when he admitted that the "biggest regret of all the presidency has to have been the intelligence failure in Iraq".

Clinton also said that

 

[yidnar]

So you like being lied into war. Got it.

Iran has been attacking US forces in the region directly or through their proxies for 50 yrs .. Iran is at war with the US ! they've been at war with us since 1979 ..

 

[frackapisa]

they could use it to threaten the region .. and it would embolden them to commit even more acts of terror .. and are they suicidal ? as far as being suicidal Martyrdom is deeply revered by said Mullahs ..

How can you threaten an entire region with just one.

 

[g5000]

they could use it to threaten the region .. and it would embolden them to commit even more acts of terror .. and are they suicidal ? as far as being suicidal Martyrdom is deeply revered by said Mullahs ..

Nope. Mullahs don't commit suicide. They get young men and women to commit suicide.

The cowards would never put their own lives at risk.

Stalin had nukes. Putin has a LOT of nukes.

Communist China has nukes. A LOT of nukes.

Kim Jong Un has a handful of nukes. Trump loves Kim Jong Un.

Iran wants nukes for the same reasons everyone else does.

Do you know what that reason is?

Hint: It's not to nuke Israel. They aren't that stupid.

 

[jc456]

Its what you get for believing democrats, who for years, said Saddam had and would use WMD's.

Bill Clinton said so