Rabbis forced the Romans to crucify Jesus

[AsherN]

Isaiah is talking about Israel not Jesus. Read all of Isaiah. Would the author change one sentence to change the subject?

It is a rare thing indeed when the Jew and the Muslim agree on Scripture...

 

[surada]

It is a rare thing indeed when the Jew and the Muslim agree on Scripture...

I'm not a Muslim. I have just read Isaiah many times. Christians really screw up when they start fiddling with scripture.

 

[Stann]

Where did Jesus say those things? Were those specific charges?

I know, people have been putting things in jesus's mouth for ages, so much so there is now a very deranged worldwide view of what Jesus was and is. The purpose of faith is too help one in living their lives. As long as it does that, and does not attack others I'm all for religion. But as we will know that is seldom the case anymore.

 

[watchingfromafar]

Some were fine with the Roman occupation.

We now call then con artists

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[watchingfromafar]

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God MAY BE COMPLETE, thoroughly equipped for EVERY GOOD WORK." -- 2 Tim 3:16-17

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[fncceo]

Rabbis forced the Romans to crucify Jesus​

You're welcome.

 

[USAF 2023]

You're welcome.

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They wanted their Savior and we gave them one. They should THANK US !

 

[fncceo]

They wanted their Savior and we gave them one.

And they got exactly what they wanted ... a "saviour" that lets them do anything they want, eat anything they want, live anyway they want, as long as they say the words at the last moment they will be saved.

 

[irosie91]

Pilate was the only one that was trying to prevent giving Jesus the death penalty. That is why he ordered the executor to give him 40 slashes. But the Israelites yelled at Pilate saying that they wanted Jesus to be crucified.
It was judgement day at the time. and the people didn't have a worthy sacrifice since they all were living in sin, that everything that they have owned was considered tainted.
And when the people made a Blood covenant or a contract agreement in those times. That both parties who are making the pledge. That they will cut open the animals and let the blood spread all over the ground. And both members of the party walks in a figure eight {which the figure 8 stand for until the cycle runs its course and meet up again at the middle, new beginning} through the blood until they meet up with each other. But while walking through the blood, they will chanted saying that the one that doesn't keep their promises or fulfilled the contract. That whatever happened to these animals that it will be done to them.
But God told Abraham that he cannot walk through the blood because he will be unable to keep his end of the bargain.
But A big flame appeared that represented God. And a small torch that represented Abraham's seeds came from the big flame, and the both walked through the blood. And the small torch will be killed for the people violating the contract.
And the Passover lamb can only be killed by the descendants of Abraham or the ones who were grafted into the family. .


Isaiah 53:5
But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was on him, and by his wounds we are healed.


Exodus 12:21
Then Moses summoned all the elders of Israel and said to them, “Go at once and select the animals for your families and slaughter the Passover lamb.

Psalm 34:20
he protects all his bones, not one of them will be broken.


Exodus 12:48
“A foreigner residing among you who wants to celebrate the Lord’s Passover must have all the males in his household circumcised; then he may take part like one born in the land. No uncircumcised male may eat it.

very good----you learned well in sunday school---
and you are truly deserving of the basket of
jelly beans that the BUNNY brings to you each
spring

 

[irosie91]

They wanted their Savior and we gave them one. They should THANK US !

So true---such a convenient religion----the only
requirement for eternal reward in heaven is
BELIEF

 

[watchingfromafar]

Get a clue, guy, we gentiles killed Jesus.

I’m a gentile and you are not a part of “we”; who you are is still to be determined.

In my view of things

Ill regardless, you can now set the story straight.

Longhord, you are on—

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[fncceo]

Ill regardless

You can just say "regardless".

 

[watchingfromafar]

You can just say "regardless".

I just did.
sue me oh wise one
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[irosie91]

Sounds a lot like Democrats today, they free hardened criminals and murderers while persecuting the innocent.

Just goes to show you how lies and propaganda can twist any people into a bloodthirsty mob without any semblance of reason.

for the record----despite the teachings of the jelly bean marm....there is nothing in the NT that says
BARABBAS was a murderer---he is described as a
"ROBBER" ---newsflash----people were NOT crucified for "robbery"-----they were CRUCIFIED for
SEDITION AGAINST ROME. The silly anecdote
discredits the NT for anyone with a brain.

 

[fncceo]

I just did.
sue me oh wise one
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At the very least, I'm due a refund on the taxes that paid for the school that failed to teach you how to spell or punctuate.

I hate seeing taxpayer money wasted.

 

[Lisa558]

So true---such a convenient religion----the only
requirement for eternal reward in heaven is
BELIEF

What about behavior?! Doing mitzvot one’s whole life? Giving to tzedakah? Being as compassionate as possible as one kills one’s food? Not bearing false witness? Or murdering people? Or f’ing other people when you’re married?

You get to be a thoughtless, immoral person, and you go to heaven by “believing” some other person takes on your sins? How convenient for Hitler….for Stalin….for Osama bin Laden….for Genghis Khan….for Himmler….for Mussolini…..for Idi Amin…..etc, etc.

The idea that the most evil people imaginable could go to Heaven simoly by believing in Jesus, and thus having him “take on” their sins like the Picture of Dorian Gray or something is impossible to wrap my mind around.

 

[watchingfromafar]

I hate seeing taxpayer money wasted.

The day you pay taxes is the day you can complain about it.

Until then, you can rely on the food stamps you now persist on.

My sweet plump dumpling

no pun intended
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[watchingfromafar]

BARABBAS was a murderer

Matthew refers to Barabbas only as a "notorious prisoner".[Matthew 27:16] Mark and Luke further refer to Barabbas as one involved in a στάσις (stasis, a riot), probably "one of the numerous insurrections against the Roman power" who had committed murder.[Mark 15:7][Luke 23:19] Robert Eisenman states that John 18:40 refers to Barabbas as a λῃστής (lēstēs, "bandit"), "the word Josephus always employs when talking about Revolutionaries".
Barabbas - Wikipedia

Barabbas, in the New Testament, a prisoner mentioned in all four Gospels who was chosen by the crowd, over Jesus Christ, to be released by Pontius Pilate in a customary pardon before the feast of Passover.

In Matthew 27:16 Barabbas is called a “notorious prisoner.” In Mark 15:7, echoed in Luke 23:19, he was “in prison with the rebels who had committed murder during the insurrection” against the occupying Roman forces. John 18:40 describes him as a bandit.
Barabbas | Facts & Significance | Britannica

Matthew 27:16
And they had then a notable prisoner
The Vulgate Latin reads, "he had"; that is, Pilate, who had committed him to prison, and under whose power he was: for the Jews had lost all authority of this kind, at least in capital cases. This prisoner is called a "notable" one; that is, a famous, or rather an infamous one: he was a thief, and a robber, and had been guilty of sedition; had made, or joined with others in an insurrection, and had committed murder in it; and so, on more accounts than one, was deserving of death: nor could it be otherwise expected by himself, or others, but that he should die:
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[Lisa558]

Matthew refers to Barabbas only as a "notorious prisoner".[Matthew 27:16] Mark and Luke further refer to Barabbas as one involved in a στάσις (stasis, a riot), probably "one of the numerous insurrections against the Roman power" who had committed murder.[Mark 15:7][Luke 23:19] Robert Eisenman states that John 18:40 refers to Barabbas as a λῃστής (lēstēs, "bandit"), "the word Josephus always employs when talking about Revolutionaries".
Barabbas - Wikipedia

Barabbas, in the New Testament, a prisoner mentioned in all four Gospels who was chosen by the crowd, over Jesus Christ, to be released by Pontius Pilate in a customary pardon before the feast of Passover.

In Matthew 27:16 Barabbas is called a “notorious prisoner.” In Mark 15:7, echoed in Luke 23:19, he was “in prison with the rebels who had committed murder during the insurrection” against the occupying Roman forces. John 18:40 describes him as a bandit.
Barabbas | Facts & Significance | Britannica

Matthew 27:16
And they had then a notable prisoner
The Vulgate Latin reads, "he had"; that is, Pilate, who had committed him to prison, and under whose power he was: for the Jews had lost all authority of this kind, at least in capital cases. This prisoner is called a "notable" one; that is, a famous, or rather an infamous one: he was a thief, and a robber, and had been guilty of sedition; had made, or joined with others in an insurrection, and had committed murder in it; and so, on more accounts than one, was deserving of death: nor could it be otherwise expected by himself, or others, but that he should die:
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IRosie is Jewish. Just saying. Why quote unproven NT verses to her? The NT cast Jews as the devil incarnate.

 

[watchingfromafar]

IRosie is Jewish. Just saying. Why quote unproven NT verses to her? The NT cast Jews as the devil incarnate.

No, it does not
Just remember, in case you forgot, Jesus was/is a Jew.
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