Question

[XponentialChaos]

I know.
The only ground I found between the 2 parties was when Trump (yes, I know you hate him) said "Hire US citizens".
That's my viable 3rd party.

Trump is a Republican. That's not a 3rd party.

Sorry, still not understanding whatever you're trying to say.

Why not define the platform of a viable 3rd party rather than vacillating?

How am I supposed to define the platform of a viable 3rd party when we don't even have a viable 3rd party?

 

[Indeependent]

I know.
The only ground I found between the 2 parties was when Trump (yes, I know you hate him) said "Hire US citizens".
That's my viable 3rd party.

Trump is a Republican. That's not a 3rd party.

Sorry, still not understanding whatever you're trying to say.

Why not define the platform of a viable 3rd party rather than vacillating?

How am I supposed to define the platform of a viable 3rd party when we don't even have a viable 3rd party?

And so there you go...
I want Party in the middle so thankfully I got Trump.
The Black communities in Nassau County are booming.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Trump is more of a Republican than he is a Democrat, but I will never vote for a Globalist from either party.

Exactly what makes you say this?
He was a LIFE LONG NY Democrat until he suddenly became a Republican for the 2016 election cycle.

Being Christian does not make one a Republican. MANY democrat Christians.
Perhaps he is just a MODERATE Democrat and you see him as "Republican" because the Left has moved so damn far hard left that
it would make ANY moderate democrat look like they lean Right.

 

[HappyJoy]

The Democratic party has actual black people in it. Like a lot. The Democratic Party is actually the melting pot that America is supposed to be, no tokenism needed. GOP, not so much.

 

[XponentialChaos]

And so there you go...
I want Party in the middle so thankfully I got Trump.
The Black communities in Nassau County are booming.

Trump is a Republican. That's not a 3rd party.

 

[Indeependent]

And so there you go...
I want Party in the middle so thankfully I got Trump.
The Black communities in Nassau County are booming.

Trump is a Republican. That's not a 3rd party.

I'd rather have an R encourage investment in minority communities than have a D tax everybody to death to pump up social welfare.
If Trump is such an R, why was he being attacked by over 99% of the R establishment?
I'm sure you watched Trump's campaign...he ran against the Rs for a year.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Trump is a Republican. That's not a 3rd party.

Actually he is a moderate democrat. He only became magically "Republican" for the 2016 elections.

 

[Shelzin]

I know.
The only ground I found between the 2 parties was when Trump (yes, I know you hate him) said "Hire US citizens".
That's my viable 3rd party.

Trump is a Republican. That's not a 3rd party.

Sorry, still not understanding whatever you're trying to say.

One of the main reasons why Trump got into office is because both the RNC and the DNC hated him. That's a plus for any candidate when you aren't an political authoritarian.

 

[Indeependent]

Trump is more of a Republican than he is a Democrat, but I will never vote for a Globalist from either party.

Exactly what makes you say this?
He was a LIFE LONG NY Democrat until he suddenly became a Republican for the 2016 election cycle.

Being Christian does not make one a Republican. MANY democrat Christians.
Perhaps he is just a MODERATE Democrat and you see him as "Republican" because the Left has moved so damn far hard left that
it would make ANY moderate democrat look like they lean Right.

Trump wants investment, not social welfare.
Other than that, I don't see much of a variance between Democrats (note I'm not including Liberals) and Republicans.

 

[XponentialChaos]

And so there you go...
I want Party in the middle so thankfully I got Trump.
The Black communities in Nassau County are booming.

Trump is a Republican. That's not a 3rd party.

I'd rather have an R encourage investment in minority communities than have a D tax everybody to death to pump up social welfare.
If Trump is such an R, why was he being attacked by over 99% of the R establishment?
I'm sure you watched Trump's campaign...he ran against the Rs for a year.

R's are compelled to vote for him, despite hating him, because he's an R.

Because they don't have a viable 3rd option.

 

[Indeependent]

Trump is a Republican. That's not a 3rd party.

Actually he is a moderate democrat. He only became magically "Republican" for the 2016 elections.

You may be correct; slightly left of center.
Certainly not a cold blooded, standard selfish R.

 

[Indeependent]

And so there you go...
I want Party in the middle so thankfully I got Trump.
The Black communities in Nassau County are booming.

Trump is a Republican. That's not a 3rd party.

I'd rather have an R encourage investment in minority communities than have a D tax everybody to death to pump up social welfare.
If Trump is such an R, why was he being attacked by over 99% of the R establishment?
I'm sure you watched Trump's campaign...he ran against the Rs for a year.

R's are compelled to vote for him, despite hating him, because he's an R.

Because they don't have a viable 3rd option.

I agree.
Are you defining viable by funding and ability to become a household name?

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Trump wants investment, not social welfare.
Other than that, I don't see much of a variance between Democrats (note I'm not including Liberals) and Republicans.

You're right.
Good point
thanks

 

[XponentialChaos]

Trump is a Republican. That's not a 3rd party.

Actually he is a moderate democrat. He only became magically "Republican" for the 2016 elections.

He's pretty moderate but he knows how to play to his base.

 

[Mac1958]

I’m hoping for some real meaningful dialogue in this thread (perhaps I’m being naive). I’m completely dissatisfied with both the Republican and Democrat parties so I guess I would consider myself an independent. This has left me feeling out on an island politically.

So anyway as I look at myself wanting a legitimate 3rd party this thought has crossed my mind.

What if as long as we have a partisan two-party system there never can be racial reconciliation? Because it doesn’t really benefit either side and then prevents coalitions around a similar issue.

For example African-Americans for the past 50-60 years have traditionally voted for the Democratic Party. So it doesnt really benefit the Democrats for there to be real racial reconciliation because they wouldn’t be able to point to the GOP as racist and keep the loyalty of the black vote.

Then as a Republican if you take up the cause of racial reconciliation you get screamed at for being a leftist socialist, anti-police, and a marxists.

I just wonder if we had a real 3rd moderate party if it would help bring real racial reconciliation.

There could be racial reconciliation within a two party system, IF the two parties could be honest brokers in the conversation. Unfortunately, though, having an honest conversation would we require both parties to admit their own failures. Neither party is willing to do that in the slightest.

The Democrats absolutely refuse to admit that they've spent the last three generations coddling and lowering standards for minorities, ultimately enabling all of their worst behaviors. Republicans absolutely refuse to admit that old fashioned, ignorant, paranoid white racism still exists, ultimately enabling all of THEIR worst behaviors. Then it all feeds on itself.

I think a more moderate third party would not only bring some sanity to the conversation, but it would also force the other two parties to back down from their warring tribal behaviors. The problem is, there's simply no viable way for a third party to gain a real foothold in the system.

So here we are. All I can hope for is that somebody important, somewhere, starts the momentum for holding their OWN side accountable for its flaws instead of just pointing the finger. Then maybe that can get things started towards healing.

 

[XponentialChaos]

And so there you go...
I want Party in the middle so thankfully I got Trump.
The Black communities in Nassau County are booming.

Trump is a Republican. That's not a 3rd party.

I'd rather have an R encourage investment in minority communities than have a D tax everybody to death to pump up social welfare.
If Trump is such an R, why was he being attacked by over 99% of the R establishment?
I'm sure you watched Trump's campaign...he ran against the Rs for a year.

R's are compelled to vote for him, despite hating him, because he's an R.

Because they don't have a viable 3rd option.

I agree.
Are you defining viable by funding and ability to become a household name?

I'm defining viable as someone who can actually win.

 

[Thinker101]

Trump is as close to a third party as we're going to get.
And by looking at the behavior from both sides of the aisle he's hitting em where it hurts.

Has it ever occurred to you that that big beautiful southern border wall can also......

Keep people IN ?

Were you planning an escape to Mexico?

 

[Marion Morrison]

The Democratic party has actual black people in it. Like a lot. The Democratic Party is actually the melting pot that America is supposed to be, no tokenism needed. GOP, not so much.

Black Americans in Congress | US House of Representatives: History, Art & Archives

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history.house.gov

^Yeah, that site is worthless. I'd be better off posting from my Encyclopedias.
When Wikipedia is better than you, you suck.

African Americans in the United States Congress - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Picture of the 1st black Congressmen:

They were hella smarter than your gimp-brained ass.

 

[Indeependent]

Trump is a Republican. That's not a 3rd party.

Actually he is a moderate democrat. He only became magically "Republican" for the 2016 elections.

He's pretty moderate but he knows how to play to his base.

He plays me by wanting US citizens to be gainfully employed.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

R's are compelled to vote for him, despite hating him, because he's an R.
Because they don't have a viable 3rd option.

We've seen way too much corruption and outright deception from the Left.

I honest to God cannot believe people would vote Democrat, unless they absolutely want America to burn to the ground.
I can understand them not voting at all....but willfully opting for corruption? WTF?

That said the problem is DC. EVERYTHING DC is for DC and against Americans
It's like DC is a separate country working to overthrow American and become supreme ruler.