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[Indeependent]

Wow! You must live in a paradise.
I grew up and live in NY; I know exactly what I mean.

So you're telling me the Republicans in your area didn't love GW's cheap slave labor economy of Trespassers, Business Visas and Off-Shoring.
You're telling me that Ds don't love the same thing and US minorities didn't get tired of being on the low rung of society so they welcomed Trespassers?

I have to move to your locale.

Sorry, but I really don't understand what this has to do with anything.

Than I can't help you.
Both parties cover all the ground to garner the majority of votes; there's nowhere else to go except MAGA, ans apparently Trump is too Alpha for you.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Yeah, they can SAY all kinds of shit....but again.....I only accept EVIDENCE....not blah blah blah

You accept what YOU consider evidence. The other side will accept what THEY consider evidence.

Both you and the other side will call the other side corrupt based on THEIR evidence then claim that the other side is only SAYING unsubstantiated shit.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Than I can't help you.
Both parties cover all the ground to garner the majority of votes; there's nowhere else to go except MAGA, ans apparently Trump is too Alpha for you.

Nowhere else to go except D or R.

Because there is no viable 3rd option.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Yeah, they can SAY all kinds of shit....but again.....I only accept EVIDENCE....not blah blah blah

You accept what YOU consider evidence. The other side will accept what THEY consider evidence.

Both you and the other side will call the other side corrupt based on THEIR evidence then claim that the other side is only SAYING unsubstantiated shit.

COP OUT.

Talk is cheep.....evidence is irrefutable.

So, list all the corrupt things Trump has done...........can you?

I mean, seriously, I already despise some things Trump has done....help me hate him....go ahead.

But remember, everything I stated has been through the courts and evidence is available,
so list likewise.

 

[HappyJoy]

The Democratic party has actual black people in it. Like a lot. The Democratic Party is actually the melting pot that America is supposed to be, no tokenism needed. GOP, not so much.

The Democrats are too far left and the Republicans are too far right. Neither party really cares for working class Americans nor do they care about minorities. I find them totally self serving and all about power.

Most of America isn’t served by either party.

Great, then don't vote for either. Trump certainly doesn't care about you.

 

[HappyJoy]

The Democratic party has actual black people in it. Like a lot. The Democratic Party is actually the melting pot that America is supposed to be, no tokenism needed. GOP, not so much.

Black Americans in Congress | US House of Representatives: History, Art & Archives

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history.house.gov

^Yeah, that site is worthless. I'd be better off posting from my Encyclopedias.
When Wikipedia is better than you, you suck.

African Americans in the United States Congress - Wikipedia

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Picture of the 1st black Congressmen:
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They were hella smarter than your gimp-brained ass.

Not sure if you realize this but we are beyond the Reconstruction ear and all the way in 2020 where black GOP politicians are nearly non existent in Congress.

 

[XponentialChaos]

COP OUT.

Talk is cheep.....evidence is irrefutable.

So, list all the corrupt things Trump has done...........can you?

What exactly is that going to accomplish?

You have your mind made up and so does the other side.

 

[Indeependent]

Than I can't help you.
Both parties cover all the ground to garner the majority of votes; there's nowhere else to go except MAGA, ans apparently Trump is too Alpha for you.

Nowhere else to go except D or R.

Because there is no viable 3rd option.

Can you list what you don't like about each?

 

[HappyJoy]

The Democratic party has actual black people in it. Like a lot. The Democratic Party is actually the melting pot that America is supposed to be, no tokenism needed. GOP, not so much.

Ain't it funny how...in your tiny little mind...a black democrat is "real" and a black repub is a "token".

I believe there is currently only one Republican member of Congress who is black. That is the very definition of tokenism. So I'm not comparing a black Democrat to a black Republican. I'm comparing numerous black Democrats to a single black Republican. Funny how you missed that.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Than I can't help you.
Both parties cover all the ground to garner the majority of votes; there's nowhere else to go except MAGA, ans apparently Trump is too Alpha for you.

Nowhere else to go except D or R.

Because there is no viable 3rd option.

Can you list what you don't like about each?

I don't like the tribal refusal to work with each other.

 

[Indeependent]

Than I can't help you.
Both parties cover all the ground to garner the majority of votes; there's nowhere else to go except MAGA, ans apparently Trump is too Alpha for you.

Nowhere else to go except D or R.

Because there is no viable 3rd option.

Can you list what you don't like about each?

I don't like the tribal refusal to work with each other.

Blame that on Communication Technology and the corruption of the Media that contributes to both parties.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Blame that on Communication Technology and the corruption of the Media that contributes to both parties.

Which is why I'd like a viable 3rd party. But that's unlikely to happen.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Which is why I'd like a viable 3rd party. But that's unlikely to happen.

Exactly, so that makes discussing a 3rd party moot.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Which is why I'd like a viable 3rd party. But that's unlikely to happen.

Exactly, so that makes discussing a 3rd party moot.

Yet here you are. Discussing it with me.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Which is why I'd like a viable 3rd party. But that's unlikely to happen.

Exactly, so that makes discussing a 3rd party moot.

Yet here you are. Discussing it with me.

Well, if you take a close look...I really have only referenced that once...
Mostly I've been telling you how one of the two VIABLE parties is a bit corrupt.

But hey, as long as you can converse like an adult, I've got no problem with it or much of anything. Discuss away

 

[XponentialChaos]

Which is why I'd like a viable 3rd party. But that's unlikely to happen.

Exactly, so that makes discussing a 3rd party moot.

Yet here you are. Discussing it with me.

Well, if you take a close look...I really have only referenced that once...
Mostly I've been telling you how one of the two VIABLE parties is a bit corrupt.

So you referenced something that's moot in a topic that you consider moot.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Trump is as close to a third party as we're going to get.
And by looking at the behavior from both sides of the aisle he's hitting em where it hurts.

Has it ever occurred to you that that big beautiful southern border wall can also......

Keep people IN ?

Who in their right mind wants to illegally cross into Mexico?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I’m hoping for some real meaningful dialogue in this thread (perhaps I’m being naive). I’m completely dissatisfied with both the Republican and Democrat parties so I guess I would consider myself an independent. This has left me feeling out on an island politically.

So anyway as I look at myself wanting a legitimate 3rd party this thought has crossed my mind.

What if as long as we have a partisan two-party system there never can be racial reconciliation? Because it doesn’t really benefit either side and then prevents coalitions around a similar issue.

For example African-Americans for the past 50-60 years have traditionally voted for the Democratic Party. So it doesnt really benefit the Democrats for there to be real racial reconciliation because they wouldn’t be able to point to the GOP as racist and keep the loyalty of the black vote.

Then as a Republican if you take up the cause of racial reconciliation you get screamed at for being a leftist socialist, anti-police, and a marxists.

I just wonder if we had a real 3rd moderate party if it would help bring real racial reconciliation.

We already have a third party, the Libertarian party. We also have a fourth party, the Green party.
There are fifth, sixth, seventh, et cetera. Your choices are:
1. Research all of them and select one from the list.
OR
2. Create your own political party, register as such, distribute your leaflets, give your orations and hope for the best. But keep this in mind, it had better be a good one, because mainstream USA has consistently sided with either the formerly Democrat party or the Republican party; not because they were the only political parties available, but because much of each side's policies appealed to the voters and those others, not really.

How about no parties and run on the issues?

One side is inherently wrong on the issues, That's why there are Republicans.

 

[Papageorgio]

The Democratic party has actual black people in it. Like a lot. The Democratic Party is actually the melting pot that America is supposed to be, no tokenism needed. GOP, not so much.

The Democrats are too far left and the Republicans are too far right. Neither party really cares for working class Americans nor do they care about minorities. I find them totally self serving and all about power.

Most of America isn’t served by either party.

Great, then don't vote for either. Trump certainly doesn't care about you.

I didn’t and I won’t. I won’t vote for the lesser of two evils, that is really stupid. I’m for demanding better candidates and not being a sheeple. I think about who would best serve our country.

 

[HappyJoy]

The Democratic party has actual black people in it. Like a lot. The Democratic Party is actually the melting pot that America is supposed to be, no tokenism needed. GOP, not so much.

The Democrats are too far left and the Republicans are too far right. Neither party really cares for working class Americans nor do they care about minorities. I find them totally self serving and all about power.

Most of America isn’t served by either party.

Great, then don't vote for either. Trump certainly doesn't care about you.

I didn’t and I won’t. I won’t vote for the lesser of two evils, that is really stupid. I’m for demanding better candidates and not being a sheeple. I think about who would best serve our country.

If you've ever voted for the Libertarian candidate then trust me, you've compromised. Not exactly a stellar bunch of candidates.