Question for the So-Called fake unbiased Independents

[Harry Dresden]

what are you retarded. i just said it has nothing to do with party

It is all policy
You have just dug yourself into a pathetic hole and can't admit that trump and Bush fucked up the deficit substantially more, by a large margin. You can't admit this at all.

Again defend your position, which you haven't done, and explain to me how the policies of Bush and Trump did not cause more of this deficit???

geezus...bush and trump....ok lets try this banker....do you think biden is doing a good job?....

 

[The Banker]

geezus...bush and trump....ok lets try this banker....do you think biden is doing a good job?....

AHAHAHAHAH !!!

You can't answer it at all

You can't even defend your own positions.

i gave you numerous chances and you couldn't do it.
I knew you couldn't do it and called this.

 

[Harry Dresden]

AHAHAHAHAH !!!

You can't answer it at all

You can't even defend your own positions.

i gave you numerous chances and you couldn't do it.
I knew you couldn't do it and called this.

what position am i not defending?.....and nice dodge about biden...yea you dont defend your precious little party....

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THE INDEPENDENTS
Not brainwashed Trump supporters who can;t admit to the facts in the OP


If you can't admit the facts in the OP, don't respond.

There are no facts in the OP. Only spoon fed talking points and feelings.

 

[The Banker]

what position am i not defending?.....and nice dodge about biden...yea you dont defend your precious little party....

You can't defend your own position that both parties are equally bad, when they are clearly different when you look solely at policy.
You can't hold the republicans accountable for their massive and substantially larger contribution to the debt and deficits

The policies of whomever was president in 2000 were a disgrace and cause significant and severe contributions to the deficit seeing how we had a balanced budget in 2000 and that was blown up with massive spending bills and tax cuts, which clearly and undeniably created massive amounts of debt and deficit
The policies of whomever was president in 2016 were a disgrace and clearly caused significant and severe contributions to the deficit, seeing how we had a $587B/yr deficit in 2016, and that ramped to over $1T pre-covid.

I am totally opposed to whomever did those policies.

I look at policy and don't care about party. Policy dictates all of my opinions, unlike you.

 

[yidnar]

THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THE INDEPENDENTS
Not brainwashed Trump supporters who can;t admit to the facts in the OP


If you can't admit the facts in the OP, don't respond.

 

[Harry Dresden]

You can't defend your own position that both parties are equally bad, when they are clearly different when you look solely at policy.
You can't hold the republicans accountable for their massive and substantially larger contribution to the debt and deficits

The policies of whomever was president in 2000 were a disgrace and cause significant and severe contributions to the deficit seeing how we had a balanced budget in 2000 and that was blown up with massive spending bills and tax cuts, which clearly and undeniably created massive amounts of debt and deficit
The policies of whomever was president in 2016 were a disgrace and clearly caused significant and severe contributions to the deficit, seeing how we had a $587B/yr deficit in 2016, and that ramped to over $1T pre-covid.

I am totally opposed to whomever did those policies.

I look at policy and don't care about party. Policy dictates all of my opinions, unlike you.

yea banker i think they both suck....like i said you cant handle other peoples opinion if they dont line up with your bullshit....i lived in California for 50 years....i seen first hand what your party did to that state over the last 30 years.....the quality of life for many people went from great to not so great anymore .....so sorry if i dont buy your parties bullshit.....

 

[LA RAM FAN]

AHAHAHAHAH !!!

You can't answer it at all

You can't even defend your own positions.

i gave you numerous chances and you couldn't do it.
I knew you couldn't do it and called this.

Yeah kinda like you can’t counter Action Jackson’s post with links he gave you of irrefutable facts that FDR and Woodrow Wilson are ahead of Reagan for creating the worst economy and recession the country ever experienced in our history.how many others here noticed thst how banker baby turned tail and ran when he could not answer or counter that?

Notice how he pretended not to see thst post of yours ActionJackson and everybody else?

Banker has been caught lying,he never looked at trumps policys,he needs to look in the mirror when telling someone they need to do homework the fact he can’t grasp reality that both parties are corrupt and one in the same in bed together but trump is the exception sense kennedy.lol

 

[dblack]

Independents:

These people constantly claim, "both parties are bad"
then they claim to be totally unbiased and non- partisan.

Both parties are bad. If you don't see that, I can't care about the rest.

 

[The Banker]

Yeah kinda like you can’t counter Action Jackson’s post with links he gave you of irrefutable facts that FDR and Woodrow Wilson are ahead of Reagan for creating the worst economy and recession the country ever experienced in our history.how many others here noticed thst how banker baby turned tail and ran when he could not answer or counter that?

Notice how he pretended not to see thst post of yours ActionJackson and everybody else?

Banker has been caught lying,he never looked at trumps policys,he needs to look in the mirror when telling someone they need to do homework the fact he can’t grasp reality that both parties are corrupt and one in the same in bed together but trump is the exception sense kennedy.lol

You are obsessed with me and literally follow me around non stop and try to get me to respond to your whining and crying.

You follow my every post for like 2 years or some crazy shit !

You are my stalker on this board. I have a pathetic message board stalker.

I have completely and totally mentally broken you. Totally broken.
Don't feel too bad, I have mentally broken substantially wiser and stronger men than you before, you cry like a little bitch all the time.

 

[ActionJackson]

You are obsessed with me and literally follow me around non stop and try to get me to respond to your whining and crying.

You follow my every post for like 2 years or some crazy shit !

You are my stalker on this board. I have a pathetic message board stalker.

I have completely and totally mentally broken you. Totally broken.
Don't feel too bad, I have mentally broken substantially wiser and stronger men than you before, you cry like a little bitch all the time.

And yet you still haven't responded to the fact that two Dems have increased the dead by substantially higher percentage rates than Reagan did. What say you?

 

[FA_Q2]

I have completely and totally mentally broken you. Totally broken.
Don't feel too bad, I have mentally broken substantially wiser and stronger men than you before, you cry like a little bitch all the time.

 

[The Banker]

And yet you still haven't responded to the fact that two Dems have increased the dead by substantially higher percentage rates than Reagan did. What say you?

Your post was so pathetically stupid and out-dated I didn;t feel the need to address it, but since you keep on insisting...

what are you fuckin nuts.
FDR and Wilson like 100 years ago when we were in a major world war.

Are you stupid or something?? If you want to criticize the dems for that then go ahead, if that's the best you can do, criticize FDR for WWII spending, go ahead.

Here's my response:

Guess what. GW Bush inherited a balance budget and then passed multi-trillion dollar spending bills and started 2 failed and mismanaged wars, then blew up the economy terribly. then Idiot Trump inherited a low $587B/yr deficit and blew that up, doubling it precovid, then tripling it post-covid.
If the best you can do is criticize FDR for WWII debt, and Wilson for WWI debt, it shows how truly desperate you are.

 

[ActionJackson]

Your post was so pathetically stupid and out-dated I didn;t feel the need to address it, but since you keep on insisting...

what are you fuckin nuts.
FDR and Wilson like 100 years ago when we were in a major world war.

Are you stupid or something?? If you want to criticize the dems for that then go ahead, if that's the best you can do, criticize FDR for WWII spending, good fucking job retard.

Here's my response:

Guess what. GW Bush inherited a balance budget and then passed multi-trillion dollar spending bills and started 2 failed and mismanaged wars, then blew up the economy terribly. then Idiot Trump inherited a low $587B/yr deficit and blew that up, doubling it precovid, then tripling it post-covid.
If the best you can do is criticize FDR for WWII debt, and Wilson for WWI debt, it shows how truly desperate you are.

Instead of being a partisan hack, admit that the Deep State (both parties) spend like drunken sailors. Nevertheless, the premise of your thread revolves around which party raised the debt the most based on percentage. I proved that your premise was incorrect. It's too late for you to backtrack.

 

[BackAgain]

Question for the So-Called fake unbiased Independents​

“So-called” fakes? maybe the OP wants to address the genuine fake unbiased independents!

Or, maybe he’s just unable to get past his own ineptitude with those “word” things.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Instead of being a partisan hack, admit that the Deep State (both parties) spend like drunken sailors. Nevertheless, the premise of your thread revolves around which party raised the debt the most based on percentage. I proved that your premise was incorrect. It's too late for you to backtrack.

You totally owned his ass major big time again same as you did in your first post to him yet he can’t own up to it thst you totally dismantled his premise in his op and somehow me complimenting you how you destroyed his facts in his op,he has it in his warped mind thst somehow that means I’m stalking him.comedy gold the stuff this kid comes up isn’t it?this child is losing it.

Love how he deflected saying you criticizing FDR and Wilson is desperate when all you were doing was proving him wrong thst two dem presidents wrecked the economy even worse than what Reagan did,yet he tries to convince everyone here YOU are desperate and thst I’m somehow stalking him just for speaking the truth you dismantled his premise in his op. Comedy gold.

All I did was comment thst he played dodgeball with your post where you proved fdr and Wilson wrecked the economy worse than Reagan and somehow he claims I am a stalker of him.what a fucking nut.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

What’s really comedic about banker is his warped logic I’m somehow I’m obsessed with him just because I tell him he did not counter action Jackson’s post thst fdr and Wilson wrecked the economy worse than Reagan did ignoring the link he posted.

I’m hardly obsessed with Banker but the ENTIRE BOARD knows HE is obsessed in trying to convince himself the Dems are not corrupt and are not ruining the country now and when someone like action Jackson proves his premise is incorrect,he claims thier post is irrelevent and plays dodgeball with the facts when proven wrong.

 

[Harry Dresden]

What’s really comedic about banker is his warped logic I’m somehow I’m obsessed with him just because I tell him he did not counter action Jackson’s post thst fdr and Wilson wrecked the economy worse than Reagan did ignoring the link he posted.

I’m hardly obsessed with Banker but the ENTIRE BOARD knows HE is obsessed in trying to convince himself the Dems are not corrupt and are not ruining the country now and when someone like action Jackson proves his premise is incorrect,he claims thier post is irrelevent and plays dodgeball with the facts when proven wrong.

no LA....he said they are corrupt....just not as bad as the republicans.....but he freely admits he doesnt care about that corruption because its people whose corrupt policies he likes...

 

[CowboyTed]

False. The USA has held debt ever since 1776 when it borrowed money to fund the Revolutionary War. Reagan's plan was an astounding success for the economy and led to a boom era in most sectors, and boosted federal tax receipts massively. The massive boost in federal tax receipts caused the socialists to get greedy and they ended up spending the returns on phoney, frivolous, and wasteful projects. Most of the excess tax income went to fund the Democratic/Socialistic/Big Government party itself instead of being used to pay down the debt, as Reagan had envisioned. I was there and listened to the news all the time, so don't even try to bullshit me about these facts.



I agree about GW Bush, the campaign promise was "no new taxes". Well-intentioned, but he didn't fully grasp Reagan's plans to monitor the trickle-down theory (which worked very well, as demonstrated by the increased tax revenue), and instead went insane and followed the socialist agenda of spending wildly.


Another falsehood. Years 2 and 3 of the Trump administration saw a small, but measurable, decrease in national debt, much of which was achieved by simply negotiating better terms. The pandemic was forced into being by the swamp. The majority of the evidence shows that there would not have even been a pandemic if people had followed the science and NOT worn those face coverings. Everything else that ensued was purely driven by people with profit motives (Big Pharma, Big Government, Big Media, Big Insurance companies, Big health care networks...)



The Dems would be better off waking up and rejecting the "Progressive" socialism they seem to be embracing. All wars which the United States of America has fought over its history were fought to stop the spread of socialism (and it modern namesake 'communism'). Every. Single. War.

Do not even DARE tell me that those men who fought and died to defend our freedoms did it just so the same evil could crop up and enslave our people again.

Do Not Even Dare.

For a better understanding of the national debt and how it has grown please look at this (apparently) factual website:

US National Debt by Year

The U.S. national debt was over $31 trillion in 2022. In 1930, it was just $16 billion. The biggest impacts have been defense spending, recessions, and recently, the pandemic.

www.thebalancemoney.com

Disclaimer: What I see on the website agrees with my memory. There are two problems: 1) the website may show *you* something else because that's the way Big Tech works with individualized AI driven content, and 2) It may have small factual errors...I do not have all the information stored somewhere where I can compare their numbers.

You are deluded...
Reagan increase the deficit massively... Reagan spent like a drunken sailer

Trickle Down economics is a con job... Even the GOP won't stand behind that con job...

Trump increased the deficit each year until 2019 when he was almost double Obama's last year... Then the really crazy borrowing started..

Facts are every Republican president since Reagan has left office with yearly borrowing more than they entered while every Democratic President has reduced the yearly borrwoing from the time they entered to the time they left...

 

[Samofvt]

You are deluded...
Reagan increase the deficit massively... Reagan spent like a drunken sailer

Trickle Down economics is a con job... Even the GOP won't stand behind that con job...

Trump increased the deficit each year until 2019 when he was almost double Obama's last year... Then the really crazy borrowing started..
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Facts are every Republican president since Reagan has left office with yearly borrowing more than they entered while every Democratic President has reduced the yearly borrwoing from the time they entered to the time they left...

It's an interesting graph, however you left out a big piece of information: the budget and economic plan is only proposed by the President, and to get it approved, there has to be negotiation between the executive branch and both chambers of congress. Congress adds it's own budget items.

Here is a better perspective: