Question For John Atheist: Don't You Want To Remember Your Good Deeds Forever?

[ding]

You mean besides being the only revealed religion?

Revealed to who? There is no evidence to support the claim God revealed anything. Did he reveal anything to Muhammad?

Or the only religion which believes God created the universe from nothing and that man is a product of that creation?

Pastafarians believe in a flying spaghetti monster that is a pretty unique belief and at least we have evidence of pasta.

No other religion MAKES the claim. Judaeo-Christianity literally makes the claim that God sought out man.

 

[ding]

You’re right...
All of those nations that murdered entire civilizations in the name of “god” and no “god” were much nicer than God.

So your defense of God is that his creations are even worse than He is? Seems like a very weak defense to me.

I believe his joke went over your head.

Why would the Creator of existence need defending?

Or it went beneath my notice?

The Creator of existence has, by his own admission, committed crimes against humanity.

Really? He spoke to you? Or are you interpreting what others have told you?

The reality is you are confused by existence. You can't reconcile how a God who is supposedly good can create a world where there is so much suffering. Your brain can't process it. You blame God for the "evils" of man.

With infinite power God could always create something better. But with infinite wisdom and goodness God freely willed to create a world "in a state of journeying" towards its ultimate perfection. In God's plan this process of becoming involves the appearance of certain beings and the disappearance of others, the existence of the more perfect alongside the less perfect, both constructive and destructive forces of nature. For almighty God. . ., because he is supremely good, would never allow anything bad to exist in his works if he were not so all-powerful and good as to cause good to emerge from it.

 

[Indeependent]

You’re right...
All of those nations that murdered entire civilizations in the name of “god” and no “god” were much nicer than God.

So your defense of God is that his creations are even worse than He is? Seems like a very weak defense to me.

I believe his joke went over your head.

Why would the Creator of existence need defending?

Or it went beneath my notice?

The Creator of existence has, by his own admission, committed crimes against humanity.

Without the Creator, there would be no humans to fail to be humane.

 

[ding]

You’re right...
All of those nations that murdered entire civilizations in the name of “god” and no “god” were much nicer than God.

So your defense of God is that his creations are even worse than He is? Seems like a very weak defense to me.

I believe his joke went over your head.

Why would the Creator of existence need defending?

Or it went beneath my notice?

The Creator of existence has, by his own admission, committed crimes against humanity.

Without the Creator, there would be no humans to fail to be humane.

To add to that, Maimonides said, "It must be admitted as a fact that it cannot be said of God that He directly creates evil, or He has the direct intention to produce evil; this is impossible His works are all perfectly good. He only produces existence, and all existence is good. God is perfect goodness, and that all that comes from Him is absolutely good. Consequently the true work of God is all good, since it is existence. ALL the great evils which men cause to each other because of certain intentions, desires, opinions, or religious principles, are likewise due to non-existence, because they originate in ignorance, which is absence of wisdom. The numerous evils to which individual persons are exposed are due to the defects existing in the persons themselves. We suffer from the evils which we, by our own free will, inflict on ourselves and ascribe them to God, who is far from being connected with them. Man himself is the author of this class of evils. The error of the ignorant goes so far as to say that God's power is insufficient, because He has given to this Universe the properties which they imagine cause these great evils."

 

[Taz]

Whites justified slavery as a way to save the soul of the non-believers which then morphed into if the person being enslaved came from an area that wasn't naturally christian---then focused on skin color.

Do you have any proof of this?

Says the guy who never offers up any real proof.

Prove it.

Any post of yours, they all have NO proof, only your made up shit.

Prove it. Show me they have no proof. Link to one.

Anything about the BB popping out of nowhere.

You are a moron. It's accepted science, dummy. Just go to CERN.

CERN isn't about the universe popping out of nothing, they're smashing shit together to see what's inside. See? This is what I'm talking about, your so called proof isn't proof of anything, except that you don't know how to prove something.

No. CERN says the universe was created, dummy.

That the atoms in your body are 14 billion years old.

So the universe was created, and CERN doesn't say that it's by a magic invisible guy who poofs everything into existence from nothing.

CERN says it was created from nothing.

You can't say God didn't create it.

I can say God did create it.

Link me to the exact page and quote that proves that from CERN. I bet you can't.

I’ve linked it to you dozens of times, dummy.

It’s ok if you want to be a science denier, Taz.

You always link to the general CERN site. I'm saying quote the part where they say that the universe popped into being from nothing, and put the link to the page. You can't expect me to search through the whole site, do you?

I always link to the page that talks about the big bang and starts off asking the question did you know that the atoms in your body were 14 billion years old?

I think you need to face the reality that the Big Bang is the creation of the universe from nothing. The atoms in your body are 14 billion years old, dummy, not infinite in age.

I know you and every other atheist who posts here is offended by this reality because it literally shakes the foundation of your beliefs. But there it is. That's how it is.

"the Big Bang is the creation of the universe from nothing" You never provided a link. You just keep repeating CERN! CERN! CERN! When that's not even what CERN is about.

And the atoms in my body aren't 14 billion years old, it took a while before the heavier elements were formed. The BB was just hydrogen.

 

[ding]

Whites justified slavery as a way to save the soul of the non-believers which then morphed into if the person being enslaved came from an area that wasn't naturally christian---then focused on skin color.

Do you have any proof of this?

Says the guy who never offers up any real proof.

Prove it.

Any post of yours, they all have NO proof, only your made up shit.

Prove it. Show me they have no proof. Link to one.

Anything about the BB popping out of nowhere.

You are a moron. It's accepted science, dummy. Just go to CERN.

CERN isn't about the universe popping out of nothing, they're smashing shit together to see what's inside. See? This is what I'm talking about, your so called proof isn't proof of anything, except that you don't know how to prove something.

No. CERN says the universe was created, dummy.

That the atoms in your body are 14 billion years old.

So the universe was created, and CERN doesn't say that it's by a magic invisible guy who poofs everything into existence from nothing.

CERN says it was created from nothing.

You can't say God didn't create it.

I can say God did create it.

Link me to the exact page and quote that proves that from CERN. I bet you can't.

I’ve linked it to you dozens of times, dummy.

It’s ok if you want to be a science denier, Taz.

You always link to the general CERN site. I'm saying quote the part where they say that the universe popped into being from nothing, and put the link to the page. You can't expect me to search through the whole site, do you?

I always link to the page that talks about the big bang and starts off asking the question did you know that the atoms in your body were 14 billion years old?

I think you need to face the reality that the Big Bang is the creation of the universe from nothing. The atoms in your body are 14 billion years old, dummy, not infinite in age.

I know you and every other atheist who posts here is offended by this reality because it literally shakes the foundation of your beliefs. But there it is. That's how it is.

"the Big Bang is the creation of the universe from nothing" You never provided a link. You just keep repeating CERN! CERN! CERN! When that's not even what CERN is about.

And the atoms in my body aren't 14 billion years old, it took a while before the heavier elements were formed. The BB was just hydrogen.

The Conservation of energy/mass say your atoms are 14 billion years old, dummy. All energy and matter started off as sub atomic particles, since that time they have only changed form. Learn some science.

I've given you the link dozens of times, Taz. And this is your stupid response every time.

 

[Taz]

Whites justified slavery as a way to save the soul of the non-believers which then morphed into if the person being enslaved came from an area that wasn't naturally christian---then focused on skin color.

Do you have any proof of this?

Says the guy who never offers up any real proof.

Prove it.

Any post of yours, they all have NO proof, only your made up shit.

Prove it. Show me they have no proof. Link to one.

Anything about the BB popping out of nowhere.

You are a moron. It's accepted science, dummy. Just go to CERN.

CERN isn't about the universe popping out of nothing, they're smashing shit together to see what's inside. See? This is what I'm talking about, your so called proof isn't proof of anything, except that you don't know how to prove something.

No. CERN says the universe was created, dummy.

That the atoms in your body are 14 billion years old.

So the universe was created, and CERN doesn't say that it's by a magic invisible guy who poofs everything into existence from nothing.

CERN says it was created from nothing.

You can't say God didn't create it.

I can say God did create it.

Link me to the exact page and quote that proves that from CERN. I bet you can't.

I’ve linked it to you dozens of times, dummy.

It’s ok if you want to be a science denier, Taz.

You always link to the general CERN site. I'm saying quote the part where they say that the universe popped into being from nothing, and put the link to the page. You can't expect me to search through the whole site, do you?

I always link to the page that talks about the big bang and starts off asking the question did you know that the atoms in your body were 14 billion years old?

I think you need to face the reality that the Big Bang is the creation of the universe from nothing. The atoms in your body are 14 billion years old, dummy, not infinite in age.

I know you and every other atheist who posts here is offended by this reality because it literally shakes the foundation of your beliefs. But there it is. That's how it is.

"the Big Bang is the creation of the universe from nothing" You never provided a link. You just keep repeating CERN! CERN! CERN! When that's not even what CERN is about.

And the atoms in my body aren't 14 billion years old, it took a while before the heavier elements were formed. The BB was just hydrogen.

The Conservation of energy/mass say your atoms are 14 billion years old, dummy. All energy and matter started off as sub atomic particles, since that time they have only changed form. Learn some science.

I've given you the link dozens of times, Taz. And this is your stupid response every time.

You give me a general CERN link, never one specific to your point. Go ahead, one last time. You'll see.

 

[ding]

Whites justified slavery as a way to save the soul of the non-believers which then morphed into if the person being enslaved came from an area that wasn't naturally christian---then focused on skin color.

Do you have any proof of this?

Says the guy who never offers up any real proof.

Prove it.

Any post of yours, they all have NO proof, only your made up shit.

Prove it. Show me they have no proof. Link to one.

Anything about the BB popping out of nowhere.

You are a moron. It's accepted science, dummy. Just go to CERN.

CERN isn't about the universe popping out of nothing, they're smashing shit together to see what's inside. See? This is what I'm talking about, your so called proof isn't proof of anything, except that you don't know how to prove something.

No. CERN says the universe was created, dummy.

That the atoms in your body are 14 billion years old.

So the universe was created, and CERN doesn't say that it's by a magic invisible guy who poofs everything into existence from nothing.

CERN says it was created from nothing.

You can't say God didn't create it.

I can say God did create it.

Link me to the exact page and quote that proves that from CERN. I bet you can't.

I’ve linked it to you dozens of times, dummy.

It’s ok if you want to be a science denier, Taz.

You always link to the general CERN site. I'm saying quote the part where they say that the universe popped into being from nothing, and put the link to the page. You can't expect me to search through the whole site, do you?

I always link to the page that talks about the big bang and starts off asking the question did you know that the atoms in your body were 14 billion years old?

I think you need to face the reality that the Big Bang is the creation of the universe from nothing. The atoms in your body are 14 billion years old, dummy, not infinite in age.

I know you and every other atheist who posts here is offended by this reality because it literally shakes the foundation of your beliefs. But there it is. That's how it is.

"the Big Bang is the creation of the universe from nothing" You never provided a link. You just keep repeating CERN! CERN! CERN! When that's not even what CERN is about.

And the atoms in my body aren't 14 billion years old, it took a while before the heavier elements were formed. The BB was just hydrogen.

The Conservation of energy/mass say your atoms are 14 billion years old, dummy. All energy and matter started off as sub atomic particles, since that time they have only changed form. Learn some science.

I've given you the link dozens of times, Taz. And this is your stupid response every time.

You give me a general CERN link, never one specific to your point. Go ahead, one last time. You'll see.

I'd rather you keep arguing that the universe wasn't created ~14 billion years ago, Taz.

It shows everyone how stupid you are acting.

 

[Grumblenuts]

I think you need to face the reality that the Big Bang is the creation of the universe from nothing. The atoms in your body are 14 billion years old, dummy, not infinite in age.

I know you and every other atheist who posts here is offended by this reality because it literally shakes the foundation of your beliefs. But there it is. That's how it is.

The atoms in one's body aren't necessarily either ("14 billion years old" or "infinite in age"), you moron.

Nuclear transmutation is the conversion of one chemical element or an isotope into another chemical element.

Fission is a form of nuclear transmutation because the resulting fragments are not the same element as the original atom.

One "atom" becoming another or others. Happening every day, all the time.
"The universe" could not have logically emerged "from nothing." Thus the notion of a "creator" is BS, no matter how offended you may get when confronted with this reality.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You’re right...
All of those nations that murdered entire civilizations in the name of “god” and no “god” were much nicer than God.

So your defense of God is that his creations are even worse than He is? Seems like a very weak defense to me.

I believe his joke went over your head.

Why would the Creator of existence need defending?

Or it went beneath my notice?

The Creator of existence has, by his own admission, committed crimes against humanity.

Without the Creator, there would be no humans to fail to be humane.

Even the god of atheists, Darwin does give credit here to a Creator (I know that puts a burr under the saddle of government school grads):
“There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed by the Creator into a few forms or into one; and that, whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.”― Charles Darwin, The Origin of Species

 

[alang1216]

You mean besides being the only revealed religion?

Revealed to who? There is no evidence to support the claim God revealed anything. Did he reveal anything to Muhammad?

Or the only religion which believes God created the universe from nothing and that man is a product of that creation?

Pastafarians believe in a flying spaghetti monster that is a pretty unique belief and at least we have evidence of pasta.

No other religion MAKES the claim. Judaeo-Christianity literally makes the claim that God sought out man.

And every inmate on death row claims they are innocent. Claims are not evidence.

 

[alang1216]

The Creator of existence has, by his own admission, committed crimes against humanity.

Really? He spoke to you? Or are you interpreting what others have told you?

You should read the Bible, it's all in there.

The reality is you are confused by existence. You can't reconcile how a God who is supposedly good can create a world where there is so much suffering. Your brain can't process it. You blame God for the "evils" of man.

Sorry but I don't think you're qualified to talk about reality. To you the world must be perfect since it was created by a perfect God.

 

[alang1216]

Without the Creator, there would be no humans to fail to be humane.

Without shepherds there would be no sheep to butcher and eat and without slave owners there would be no slaves.

 

[alang1216]

Even the god of atheists, Darwin does give credit here to a Creator (I know that puts a burr under the saddle of government school grads):
“There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed by the Creator into a few forms or into one; and that, whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.”― Charles Darwin, The Origin of Species

You hypocritical elitist. How many threads have you started where Darwin is evil and ignorant?

 

[Taz]

Whites justified slavery as a way to save the soul of the non-believers which then morphed into if the person being enslaved came from an area that wasn't naturally christian---then focused on skin color.

Do you have any proof of this?

Says the guy who never offers up any real proof.

Prove it.

Any post of yours, they all have NO proof, only your made up shit.

Prove it. Show me they have no proof. Link to one.

Anything about the BB popping out of nowhere.

You are a moron. It's accepted science, dummy. Just go to CERN.

CERN isn't about the universe popping out of nothing, they're smashing shit together to see what's inside. See? This is what I'm talking about, your so called proof isn't proof of anything, except that you don't know how to prove something.

No. CERN says the universe was created, dummy.

That the atoms in your body are 14 billion years old.

So the universe was created, and CERN doesn't say that it's by a magic invisible guy who poofs everything into existence from nothing.

CERN says it was created from nothing.

You can't say God didn't create it.

I can say God did create it.

Link me to the exact page and quote that proves that from CERN. I bet you can't.

I’ve linked it to you dozens of times, dummy.

It’s ok if you want to be a science denier, Taz.

You always link to the general CERN site. I'm saying quote the part where they say that the universe popped into being from nothing, and put the link to the page. You can't expect me to search through the whole site, do you?

I always link to the page that talks about the big bang and starts off asking the question did you know that the atoms in your body were 14 billion years old?

I think you need to face the reality that the Big Bang is the creation of the universe from nothing. The atoms in your body are 14 billion years old, dummy, not infinite in age.

I know you and every other atheist who posts here is offended by this reality because it literally shakes the foundation of your beliefs. But there it is. That's how it is.

"the Big Bang is the creation of the universe from nothing" You never provided a link. You just keep repeating CERN! CERN! CERN! When that's not even what CERN is about.

And the atoms in my body aren't 14 billion years old, it took a while before the heavier elements were formed. The BB was just hydrogen.

The Conservation of energy/mass say your atoms are 14 billion years old, dummy. All energy and matter started off as sub atomic particles, since that time they have only changed form. Learn some science.

I've given you the link dozens of times, Taz. And this is your stupid response every time.

You give me a general CERN link, never one specific to your point. Go ahead, one last time. You'll see.

I'd rather you keep arguing that the universe wasn't created ~14 billion years ago, Taz.

It shows everyone how stupid you are acting.

See? You can't provide the link and then call me stupid. What? No declaring victory?

Your concession is duly noted.

 

[Indeependent]

Without the Creator, there would be no humans to fail to be humane.

Without shepherds there would be no sheep to butcher and eat and without slave owners there would be no slaves.

Humans are not required to eat sheep and humans are forbidden to have slaves.
Humans are allowed to have servants...butlers, maids, waiters, waitresses.

 

[alang1216]

Without the Creator, there would be no humans to fail to be humane.

Without shepherds there would be no sheep to butcher and eat and without slave owners there would be no slaves.

Humans are not required to eat sheep and humans are forbidden to have slaves.
Humans are allowed to have servants...butlers, maids, waiters, waitresses.

I doubt being a voluntary thing is much comfort to the sheep. As to slavery, is that something God forbids or is that your prohibition?

 

[Hollie]

You’re right...
All of those nations that murdered entire civilizations in the name of “god” and no “god” were much nicer than God.

So your defense of God is that his creations are even worse than He is? Seems like a very weak defense to me.

I believe his joke went over your head.

Why would the Creator of existence need defending?

Or it went beneath my notice?

The Creator of existence has, by his own admission, committed crimes against humanity.

Without the Creator, there would be no humans to fail to be humane.

Even the god of atheists, Darwin does give credit here to a Creator (I know that puts a burr under the saddle of government school grads):
“There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed by the Creator into a few forms or into one; and that, whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.”― Charles Darwin, The Origin of Species

On the other hand:


Darwin undermined the very foundations of a society shaped by the Anglican Church, with its hopes of eternal life and the omnipresent threat of punishment.

"As soon you realize that one species could evolve into another, the whole structure wobbles and collapses," he remarked. And if man were nothing but a superior animal, where would that leave his spiritual dignity? And if he himself is the product of evolution, then what about his moral accountability to God?

Darwin on a Godless Creation: "It's like confessing to a murder"

200 years after the birth of Charles Darwin, his theory of evolution still clashes with the creationist beliefs of some organized religions. For him personally, it meant the end of his belief in creation by God

www.scientificamerican.com

I know, right? I’ll bet that’s like sand in the bathing suit to the religious extremists.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I think you need to answer MY question first --

Answer: No. I am not just atheist, i am actually glad that celestial dcitators almost certainly do not exist.

So, back to my question:

What if you are wrong, and you are going to suffer.for eternity for your error?

For someone who loooves asking everyone this question, you sure seem to be having a hard time with it. What gives?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Even the god of atheists, Darwin does give credit here to a Creator (I know that puts a burr under the saddle of government school grads):
“There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed by the Creator into a few forms or into one; and that, whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.”― Charles Darwin, The Origin of Species

You hypocritical elitist. How many threads have you started where Darwin is evil and ignorant?

None.