Question For John Atheist: Don't You Want To Remember Your Good Deeds Forever?

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JAG Writes:
~ Regarding John Atheist ~
~ Introductory Remarks ~

John Atheist,
You do desire to live a heroic life and to be remembered
for your good deeds, don't you? I think you do.
You have lived your life to help others, haven't you? Yes,
you most likely have.
You have lived by the Golden Rule that says do unto
others as you would have them do unto you, haven't
you? Yes, you probably have lived that way.
But on your atheism let us assume that you die and
cease to exist forever --- here is a short piece I wrote
about this atheistic cease-to-exist sadness.

A Monument To John Atheist
by JAG
Let us say that your risked your life to save 3000 people that
were stranded in a dangerous storm and in so doing you lost
a leg, but you were successful in rescuing them and the "powers
that be" gave you a medal for your heroic action and later a
grateful nation erected a statue of John Atheist and it stood
for 500 years.

That would matter to YOU in the short term, but not in the
long term. On your atheism there would come a time when
John Atheist ceased to exist -- and became this 00000

If John Atheist does Cease-To-Exist, then in the long
term it would not matter to YOU that you had acted
heroically to save the lives of other human beings.

If some humans remembered you for 5000 years it would
NOT matter to YOU because you Ceased-To-Exist and
had become this 00000.

So what point am I making? Answer: You need spiritual
tools to arrive at what really matters.
John 3:16
{1) believe and get Eternal Life
{2} refuse to believe and "perish"

John Atheist now has Eternal Life , , , ,

Here on this spiritual ground your heroic action would
matter for all Eternity. It would be FOREVER in your mind
that you had performed a noble heroic action that helped
other people at great cost to you. It would be known by untold
billions of human beings who were sharing Eternal Life with you.
It would matter to YOU and to THEM . . . FOREVER.

Now why on Earth, would that NOT appeal to you?
Why would you NOT desire to be known forever.
And remembered forever by large numbers of
people that YOU had personally helped by living a
noble heroic life?

Why does it not make you very sad to think that all
your past noble heroic acts will be reduced to 00000
and will never be remembered by you?

JAG
 

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JAG Writes:
~ Regarding John Atheist ~
~ Introductory Remarks ~

John Atheist,
You do desire to live a heroic life and to be remembered
for your good deeds, don't you? I think you do.
You have lived your life to help others, haven't you? Yes,
you most likely have.
You have lived by the Golden Rule that says do unto
others as you would have them do unto you, haven't
you? Yes, you probably have lived that way.
But on your atheism let us assume that you die and
cease to exist forever --- here is a short piece I wrote
about this atheistic cease-to-exist sadness.

A Monument To John Atheist
by JAG
Let us say that your risked your life to save 3000 people that
were stranded in a dangerous storm and in so doing you lost
a leg, but you were successful in rescuing them and the "powers
that be" gave you a medal for your heroic action and later a
grateful nation erected a statue of John Atheist and it stood
for 500 years.

That would matter to YOU in the short term, but not in the
long term. On your atheism there would come a time when
John Atheist ceased to exist -- and became this 00000

If John Atheist does Cease-To-Exist, then in the long
term it would not matter to YOU that you had acted
heroically to save the lives of other human beings.

If some humans remembered you for 5000 years it would
NOT matter to YOU because you Ceased-To-Exist and
had become this 00000.

So what point am I making? Answer: You need spiritual
tools to arrive at what really matters.
John 3:16
{1) believe and get Eternal Life
{2} refuse to believe and "perish"

John Atheist now has Eternal Life , , , ,

Here on this spiritual ground your heroic action would
matter for all Eternity. It would be FOREVER in your mind
that you had performed a noble heroic action that helped
other people at great cost to you. It would be known by untold
billions of human beings who were sharing Eternal Life with you.
It would matter to YOU and to THEM . . . FOREVER.

Now why on Earth, would that NOT appeal to you?
Why would you NOT desire to be known forever.
And remembered forever by large numbers of
people that YOU had personally helped by living a
noble heroic life?

Why does it not make you very sad to think that all
your past noble heroic acts will be reduced to 00000
and will never be remembered by you?

JAG
Lol, you don't appreciate realism.
 

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In several hundred billion years from now the universe will finally cool to absolute zero and nothing will ever happen again. If I'm still around then I'm certain existence itself will have long become nothing but a horrible prison.
 

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JAG Writes:
~ Regarding John Atheist ~
~ Introductory Remarks ~

John Atheist,
You do desire to live a heroic life and to be remembered
for your good deeds, don't you? I think you do.
You have lived your life to help others, haven't you? Yes,
you most likely have.
You have lived by the Golden Rule that says do unto
others as you would have them do unto you, haven't
you? Yes, you probably have lived that way.
But on your atheism let us assume that you die and
cease to exist forever --- here is a short piece I wrote
about this atheistic cease-to-exist sadness.

A Monument To John Atheist
by JAG
Let us say that your risked your life to save 3000 people that
were stranded in a dangerous storm and in so doing you lost
a leg, but you were successful in rescuing them and the "powers
that be" gave you a medal for your heroic action and later a
grateful nation erected a statue of John Atheist and it stood
for 500 years.

That would matter to YOU in the short term, but not in the
long term. On your atheism there would come a time when
John Atheist ceased to exist -- and became this 00000

If John Atheist does Cease-To-Exist, then in the long
term it would not matter to YOU that you had acted
heroically to save the lives of other human beings.

If some humans remembered you for 5000 years it would
NOT matter to YOU because you Ceased-To-Exist and
had become this 00000.

So what point am I making? Answer: You need spiritual
tools to arrive at what really matters.
John 3:16
{1) believe and get Eternal Life
{2} refuse to believe and "perish"

John Atheist now has Eternal Life , , , ,

Here on this spiritual ground your heroic action would
matter for all Eternity. It would be FOREVER in your mind
that you had performed a noble heroic action that helped
other people at great cost to you. It would be known by untold
billions of human beings who were sharing Eternal Life with you.
It would matter to YOU and to THEM . . . FOREVER.

Now why on Earth, would that NOT appeal to you?
Why would you NOT desire to be known forever.
And remembered forever by large numbers of
people that YOU had personally helped by living a
noble heroic life?

Why does it not make you very sad to think that all
your past noble heroic acts will be reduced to 00000
and will never be remembered by you?

JAG
We don't think it's an option for anyone. The flip side is we don't have to worry about going to hell either.
 

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I look at living as writing a book.

All through your life, you add to your book of living.
When you die, your book is placed on a shelf.

Some books are quickly forgotten. Others are picked up and read for generations.
 

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So
I look at living as writing a book.

All through your life, you add to your book of living.
When you die, your book is placed on a shelf.

Some books are quickly forgotten. Others are picked up and read for generations.
So, if you die and life ends and there is no eternity, why would anyone care? So, what did your great-great granddad do for a living? Where did he live? What was his favorite color? How did he die? Get the point? I don't know these things either; however, I believe that if my great-great granddad was a believer in Christ, I will meet him someday. And if not, there will be others to meet and it will be as though he never existed... Oh, he will be aware somewhere, but it will make no difference because he will be unknown in the eternity that I will experience...
 

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In several hundred billion years from now the universe will finally cool to absolute zero and nothing will ever happen again. If I'm still around then I'm certain existence itself will have long become nothing but a horrible prison.
Schwachkopf. Dummkopf!
Ze Æther never allows for absolute zero. Nein! Nicht! Das ist verboten! ;)
 

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So, if you die and life ends and there is no eternity, why would anyone care?
By not being able to immediately think of about 100 answers, you expose your own mental and moral problems. Not anyone else's.
 

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JAG Writes:
~ Regarding John Atheist ~
~ Introductory Remarks ~

John Atheist,
You do desire to live a heroic life and to be remembered
for your good deeds, don't you? I think you do.
You have lived your life to help others, haven't you? Yes,
you most likely have.
You have lived by the Golden Rule that says do unto
others as you would have them do unto you, haven't
you? Yes, you probably have lived that way.
But on your atheism let us assume that you die and
cease to exist forever --- here is a short piece I wrote
about this atheistic cease-to-exist sadness.

A Monument To John Atheist
by JAG
Let us say that your risked your life to save 3000 people that
were stranded in a dangerous storm and in so doing you lost
a leg, but you were successful in rescuing them and the "powers
that be" gave you a medal for your heroic action and later a
grateful nation erected a statue of John Atheist and it stood
for 500 years.

That would matter to YOU in the short term, but not in the
long term. On your atheism there would come a time when
John Atheist ceased to exist -- and became this 00000

If John Atheist does Cease-To-Exist, then in the long
term it would not matter to YOU that you had acted
heroically to save the lives of other human beings.

If some humans remembered you for 5000 years it would
NOT matter to YOU because you Ceased-To-Exist and
had become this 00000.

So what point am I making? Answer: You need spiritual
tools to arrive at what really matters.
John 3:16
{1) believe and get Eternal Life
{2} refuse to believe and "perish"

John Atheist now has Eternal Life , , , ,

Here on this spiritual ground your heroic action would
matter for all Eternity. It would be FOREVER in your mind
that you had performed a noble heroic action that helped
other people at great cost to you. It would be known by untold
billions of human beings who were sharing Eternal Life with you.
It would matter to YOU and to THEM . . . FOREVER.

Now why on Earth, would that NOT appeal to you?
Why would you NOT desire to be known forever.
And remembered forever by large numbers of
people that YOU had personally helped by living a
noble heroic life?

Why does it not make you very sad to think that all
your past noble heroic acts will be reduced to 00000
and will never be remembered by you?

JAG
I believe that "pride" in one's self being one of the seven deadly sins.
 

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So, if you die and life ends and there is no eternity, why would anyone care?
By not being able to immediately think of about 100 answers, you expose your own mental and moral problems. Not anyone else's.
A testament to what all that "prayer" and "study" typically yields.. stunning brain deadness.
 

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In several hundred billion years from now the universe will finally cool to absolute zero and nothing will ever happen again. If I'm still around then I'm certain existence itself will have long become nothing but a horrible prison.
Schwachkopf. Dummkopf!
Ze Æther never allows for absolute zero. Nein! Nicht! Das ist verboten! ;)
Like I'm going to attempt to explain the heat death of the universe to someone who thinks we go to a nice alcohol and drug-free picnic after we die.
 

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In several hundred billion years from now the universe will finally cool to absolute zero and nothing will ever happen again.
FYI, even modern physics disagrees.
Heat death does not imply any particular absolute temperature; it only requires that temperature differences or other processes may no longer be exploited to perform work. In the language of physics, this is when the universe reaches thermodynamic equilibrium (maximum entropy).
Be sure to read the final paragraph as well ;)
 

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In several hundred billion years from now the universe will finally cool to absolute zero and nothing will ever happen again.
FYI, even modern physics disagrees.
Heat death does not imply any particular absolute temperature; it only requires that temperature differences or other processes may no longer be exploited to perform work. In the language of physics, this is when the universe reaches thermodynamic equilibrium (maximum entropy).
Be sure to read the final paragraph as well ;)
I was trying to get across the inconceivable depth of time until the final meaningful event in the universe and that even then eternity has just gotten started. What sentient intellect could face eternity and not go mad? our 70-80 years here would not count for anything after only a few centuries in an eternal afterlife.
 

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So, if you die and life ends and there is no eternity, why would anyone care?
By not being able to immediately think of about 100 answers, you expose your own mental and moral problems. Not anyone else's.
There is no morality without GOD, only personal opinion and desire. Plus, the highest suicide rate is (a mental barometer) shamefully among those with no religious affiliation ------ that would be atheists and agnostics...
 
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So, if you die and life ends and there is no eternity, why would anyone care?
By not being able to immediately think of about 100 answers, you expose your own mental and moral problems. Not anyone else's.
There is no morality without GOD, only personal opinion and desire. Plus, the highest suicide rate is (a mental barometer) shamefully among those with no religious affiliation ------ that would be atheists and agnostics...
Is this the same God who wiped out just about every man, women, child, and animal in a flood? The God to order Israelites to invade foreign countries, commit genocide, and make slaves of their enemies? The God that punishes the innocent?
 

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Is this the same God who wiped out just about every man, women, child, and animal in a flood? The God to order Israelites to invade foreign countries, commit genocide, and make slaves of their enemies? The God that punishes the innocent?
Yep. The same god that brought us the morality of the Dark Ages. You know, when women were property, brown people were slaves, heretics were murdered, etc.

Of course, our morality only improved once christianity was reformed by superior, secular ideas.

So this thread is a joke.
 

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