Zone1 Question for Christians.

[theHawk]

Sorry. I'm not gonna deal with nitpicking right now.

Of course not. You wouldn’t want to talk about specifics, just vague accusations.

 

[BULLDOG]

Oh of course not, you certainly wouldn’t want to talk about that.

The idea of this thread is to just attack Christianity.

If you consider asking a simple question to be an attack, perhaps you should run away. I'm sure you can find a thread about eating cats that would be more to your liking.

 

[theHawk]

If you consider asking a simple question to be an attack, perhaps you should run away. I'm sure you can find a thread about eating cats that would be more to your liking.

Your simple question was answered.

But it is clear that wasn’t what you really wanted.

I am not offended by pointing out fake Christians. It leads people to real Christianity.

 

[sparky]

Odd that there has been so little interest in answering the question from Christians here. I expected they would have been eager to explain how their religion works.

eager?

not really Dog, i find fundies so 'programmed' it's rather hard to get any point across

how does religion work?

it is a self serving blasphemous machination of the devil incarnate which i'm sure a smoking hole where the vatican used to be will be a sign of the second coming

any more Q's this 'Christian' can answer for you?

~S~

 

[sparky]

Matthew 18:6-14 New International Version (NIV)“If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea. Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to stumble!

Guess who Matt's talkin' about

~S~

 

[Meriweather]

Odd that there has been so little interest in answering the question from Christians here. I expected they would have been eager to explain how their religion works. Can't get many converts if you can't answer simple questions. Do you want to disappoint Jesus?

Religion doesn't "work" by predicting elections. The work of prophets is not to predict a future event, but to speak the word/truth of God. His Word or Truth cannot be found in an election. Often prophets can (and have) read the handwriting on the wall of what is likely to happen if people ignore God's words and truths. Prophets call for repentance (turning away from what is wrong and doing instead what is right). Right is based on reason.

 

[Crepitus]

Tithing is completely man made Crep

~S~

Some folks certainly disagree.

 

[BULLDOG]

eager?

not really Dog, i find fundies so 'programmed' it's rather hard to get any point across

how does religion work?

it is a self serving blasphemous machination of the devil incarnate which i'm sure a smoking hole where the vatican used to be will be a sign of the second coming

any more Q's this 'Christian' can answer for you?

~S~

Whether religion is good or bad would be a great subject for another thread. I'm just trying to determine if there is continuity in today's Christian beliefs, and if not, why.

 

[BULLDOG]

Religion doesn't "work" by predicting elections. The work of prophets is not to predict a future event, but to speak the word/truth of God. His Word or Truth cannot be found in an election. Often prophets can (and have) read the handwriting on the wall of what is likely to happen if people ignore God's words and truths. Prophets call for repentance (turning away from what is wrong and doing instead what is right). Right is based on reason.

Prophets "work" by repeating what God has told them, whether it be a catastrophic event or the outcome of an election. It's more about the solemn duty to faithfully share God given information than it is about what that information might be.

 

[sparky]

I'm just trying to determine if there is continuity in today's Christian beliefs, and if not, why.

ok then....
new test/old test is a grand example Dog

~S~

 

[Meriweather]

Prophets "work" by repeating what God has told them, whether it be a catastrophic event or the outcome of an election. It's more about the solemn duty to faithfully share God given information than it is about what that information might be.

God's work has more depth than a superficial election. The minute a "prophet" says he knows the election results, he goes straight into the grouping of fortune tellers.

 

[BreezeWood]

I'm just trying to determine if there is continuity in today's Christian beliefs, and if not, why.

it's called the christian bible - written in the 4th century, the beginning of their religion based on their interpretation of the 1st century events involving judaism its interpretation and rendering of the lead characters crucifixion ....

the forgeries, lies and fallacies throughout the christian bible 10k pg document since its completion not only drastically misinterprets those events is the reason for their religions lack of continuity as well as a meaningful religion intuitively known by whoever would venture to read the document - at their own peril without recommendation.

 

[BULLDOG]

God's work has more depth than a superficial election. The minute a "prophet" says he knows the election results, he goes straight into the grouping of fortune tellers.

I agree. So, how do TV preachers who regularly do that keep making millions from people who claim to be Christian?

 

[ding]

No one can deny that Christian leaders have taken a larger role in politics over the last several years. Whether that is a good or bad thing covers a wide range of subjects and is not what this thread is about. I just have one question that can be better answered by someone who at least has a working knowledge of the Bible

Prophets in the Bible are generally highly revered. For those that believe in the God of the Bible, receiving direct specific knowledge from God deserves respect. However, even back then, it was known that unscrupulous people might claim God told them something when he didn't. That's why anyone claiming to have a prophecy was held to a high and severe standard. Giving false prophecy that didn't actually occur was grounds for death. Falsely claiming authority of God's knowledge was not tolerated. Obviously, today, we don't kill false prophets, but is there anything in the Bible that says false prophecy should be taken lightly? If a prominent religious leader claims God told him something, and it doesn't happen as claimed, should he maintain his standing in the Christian community?

You should worry more about being fooled by false promises of politicians.

 

[BULLDOG]

You should worry more about being fooled by false promises of politicians.

What about when a religious group makes political claims and presents them as dogma? You can evaluate the results of a politician's promise. To question religious dogma, you are said to be challenging God.

 

[Meriweather]

I agree. So, how do TV preachers who regularly do that keep making millions from people who claim to be Christian?

I can only speculate about this, as I attend Mass because Catholics are called to participate in the Mass, not just watch. This being said, I believe many priests are sadden by so many who seem to watch the Mass instead of participating. Truthfully, I don't think, from the altar, a priest can tell much--if any--difference of those participating and those merely watching. Participation involves heart, mind, body, and soul--and most participation occurs within heart, mind, and soul. Catholics need to show up to actively participate.

All people of faith have within themselves to worship and bless the Lord with their lives. Perhaps tuning into TV preachers is for some/many a way of participating, their way of giving to the Lord.

 

[ding]

What about when a religious group makes political claims and presents them as dogma? You can evaluate the results of a politician's promise. To question religious dogma, you are said to be challenging God.

No idea what windmill you are tilting at, Don.

 

[BULLDOG]

I can only speculate about this, as I attend Mass because Catholics are called to participate in the Mass, not just watch. This being said, I believe many priests are sadden by so many who seem to watch the Mass instead of participating. Truthfully, I don't think, from the altar, a priest can tell much--if any--difference of those participating and those merely watching. Participation involves heart, mind, body, and soul--and most participation occurs within heart, mind, and soul. Catholics need to show up to actively participate.

All people of faith have within themselves to worship and bless the Lord with their lives. Perhaps tuning into TV preachers is for some/many a way of participating, their way of giving to the Lord.

Sending money to an obvious scam artist is a hell of a way to give to the lord. We are supposed to question religious leaders. God warned about false teachers.

 

[SweetSue92]

I won' bother looking it up, but a wide range of TV preachers claim God told them that trump will win the election.

Of course this is somehow related to TDS....geez

 

[BULLDOG]

Of course this is somehow related to TDS....geez

It's related to falsely using religion to manipulate the flock for personal gain.