Zone1 Question for Christians.

[BULLDOG]

No one can deny that Christian leaders have taken a larger role in politics over the last several years. Whether that is a good or bad thing covers a wide range of subjects and is not what this thread is about. I just have one question that can be better answered by someone who at least has a working knowledge of the Bible

Prophets in the Bible are generally highly revered. For those that believe in the God of the Bible, receiving direct specific knowledge from God deserves respect. However, even back then, it was known that unscrupulous people might claim God told them something when he didn't. That's why anyone claiming to have a prophecy was held to a high and severe standard. Giving false prophecy that didn't actually occur was grounds for death. Falsely claiming authority of God's knowledge was not tolerated. Obviously, today, we don't kill false prophets, but is there anything in the Bible that says false prophecy should be taken lightly? If a prominent religious leader claims God told him something, and it doesn't happen as claimed, should he maintain his standing in the Christian community?

 

[sparky]

If a prominent religious leader claims God told him something, and it doesn't happen as claimed, should he maintain his standing in the Christian community?

Is that your Q Dog?

~S~

 

[BULLDOG]

Is that your Q Dog?

~S~

Yep. Nothing more. A simple yes/no question. I might have further questions depending on how posters might choose to answer, but that's their call on what they post. Just try to stay close to the OP.

 

[sparky]

Yep. Nothing more. A simple yes/no question.

Show me where any cleric has claimed to talk to God then

~S~

 

[BULLDOG]

Show me where any cleric has claimed to talk to God then

~S~

I won' bother looking it up, but a wide range of TV preachers claim God told them that trump will win the election.

 

[theHawk]

No one can deny that Christian leaders have taken a larger role in politics over the last several years. Whether that is a good or bad thing covers a wide range of subjects and is not what this thread is about. I just have one question that can be better answered by someone who at least has a working knowledge of the Bible

Prophets in the Bible are generally highly revered. For those that believe in the God of the Bible, receiving direct specific knowledge from God deserves respect. However, even back then, it was known that unscrupulous people might claim God told them something when he didn't. That's why anyone claiming to have a prophecy was held to a high and severe standard. Giving false prophecy that didn't actually occur was grounds for death. Falsely claiming authority of God's knowledge was not tolerated. Obviously, today, we don't kill false prophets, but is there anything in the Bible that says false prophecy should be taken lightly? If a prominent religious leader claims God told him something, and it doesn't happen as claimed, should he maintain his standing in the Christian community?

What leader has tried to add to the Bible?

There is nothing in the Bible against private revelation, or sharing that encounter with others. I have never heard of a political leader that actually claimed to be a prophet of God.

 

[sparky]

God told them

Called them on the phone Dog ???

seriously.....

sing along?......



~S~

 

[Concerned American]

No one can deny that Christian leaders have taken a larger role in politics over the last several years. Whether that is a good or bad thing covers a wide range of subjects and is not what this thread is about. I just have one question that can be better answered by someone who at least has a working knowledge of the Bible

Prophets in the Bible are generally highly revered. For those that believe in the God of the Bible, receiving direct specific knowledge from God deserves respect. However, even back then, it was known that unscrupulous people might claim God told them something when he didn't. That's why anyone claiming to have a prophecy was held to a high and severe standard. Giving false prophecy that didn't actually occur was grounds for death. Falsely claiming authority of God's knowledge was not tolerated. Obviously, today, we don't kill false prophets, but is there anything in the Bible that says false prophecy should be taken lightly? If a prominent religious leader claims God told him something, and it doesn't happen as claimed, should he maintain his standing in the Christian community?

Ask Orel Roberts or Marjoe Gortner or Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker.

 

[BULLDOG]

What leader has tried to add to the Bible?

There is nothing in the Bible against private revelation, or sharing that encounter with others. I have never heard of a political leader that actually claimed to be a prophet of God.

Prophesy has a long and important place in Christianity. I'm asking about those that claim God told them something was going to happen at this time, but it doesn't happen. Should we assume God was mistaken, or perhaps lying, or is that false prophet claiming the authority of God's word for personal gain? Should a person like that maintain their position of prominence in the Christian community?

 

[BULLDOG]

Called them on the phone Dog ???

seriously.....

sing along?......



~S~

It is their claim that God told them something. You'll have to ask them what method was used.

 

[BULLDOG]

Ask Orel Roberts or Marjoe Gortner or Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker.

There is a much longer list.

 

[Crepitus]

No one can deny that Christian leaders have taken a larger role in politics over the last several years. Whether that is a good or bad thing covers a wide range of subjects and is not what this thread is about. I just have one question that can be better answered by someone who at least has a working knowledge of the Bible

Prophets in the Bible are generally highly revered. For those that believe in the God of the Bible, receiving direct specific knowledge from God deserves respect. However, even back then, it was known that unscrupulous people might claim God told them something when he didn't. That's why anyone claiming to have a prophecy was held to a high and severe standard. Giving false prophecy that didn't actually occur was grounds for death. Falsely claiming authority of God's knowledge was not tolerated. Obviously, today, we don't kill false prophets, but is there anything in the Bible that says false prophecy should be taken lightly? If a prominent religious leader claims God told him something, and it doesn't happen as claimed, should he maintain his standing in the Christian community?

If any religion had actually held themselves to that standard religiously (pun intended) they would be far smaller organizations than they are today, if they even still existed.

 

[sparky]

It is their claim that God told them something. You'll have to ask them what method was used.

Their ears? Messenger? Certified letter?



~S~

 

[Crepitus]

Show me where any cleric has claimed to talk to God then

~S~

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www.cnn.com

Pastor Says God Told Him COVID 'Never Leaving' While Churchgoers Wear Masks

Pastor Shane Vaughn said those who are wearing face masks are walking in the "spirit of the antichrist."

www.newsweek.com

Televangelist says God told him he needs 4th private plane

"I really believe that if Jesus was physically on the Earth today, he wouldn't be riding a donkey," Duplantis said. "He'd be in an airplane preaching the Gospel all over the world."

www.usatoday.com

 

[sparky]

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www.cnn.com

Pastor Says God Told Him COVID 'Never Leaving' While Churchgoers Wear Masks

Pastor Shane Vaughn said those who are wearing face masks are walking in the "spirit of the antichrist."

www.newsweek.com

God told me to put my hands in yer wallet Crep?

i need more whiskey for this........~S~

 

[BULLDOG]

The fact remains that today's Christianity is what we deal with. I just occasionally ask for clarification when today's practices don't seem to match what the Bible teaches.

 

[Crepitus]

God told me to put my hands in yer wallet Crep?

i need more whiskey for this........~S~

Did he? Or did you just make that up?

 

[Concerned American]

There is a much longer list.

There always is, these are just a few of the more recent ones. Seems the results of their claims of communications with God pretty much answer the question that you were asking. Did you not want an answer or examples?

 

[BULLDOG]

There always is, these are just a few of the more recent ones. Seems the results of their claims of communications with God pretty much answer the question that you were asking. Did you not want an answer or examples?

Illuminate the question any way you see fit.

 

[rampart]

Their ears? Messenger? Certified letter?



~S~

burning bush? "writing on the wall?"