My understanding was that the Ukraine failed to pay the bills.
The reason Ukraine failed to pay the bills, was because they were heavily subsidizing the cost of gas from Russia. Meaning, the public was paying only a fraction of the cost, and the Ukraine government was paying the rest.
Well Ukraine government doesn't have any money, and wasn't paying the bill.
I can't blame Russia for cutting off gas, when Ukraine isn't paying it's bills.
That still doesn't mean it was acceptable for Russia to attack Ukraine. Nor for it take over Crimea. Nor fund slaughter of civilians.
But I am not going to just make up that Russia is turning off gas supplies without cause.
That said, you people have been claiming the US supported the overthrow of the Ukraine government without the slightest shred of evidence for ages now.
Please provide actual proof.
The fact that the west cheered a murderous nazi invasion of Ukraine is evidence enough.
Not really. There was only one far right politician, and he was voted out after the revolution. And he never was in a leadership position.
Nor was he promoted by the US ambassador.
The only claims of Nazism came from Russia. The guy was against Russia's involvement in Ukraine politics.... ironically what the left-wing here is claiming happened against the Democrats.
Funny how you are screaming and yelling about Russia influence in the US election, and yet condemning a man as a Nazi for not wanting Russian influence in the Ukraine.
Hypocrite much?
Cheering isn't the same as influencing. People in Europe cheered Trump's victory here. That doesn't mean the EU was influencing our election.
You are suffering from disinformation.
Svoboda (formally Social-National Party) had the deputy Prime Minster, three ministers and a vice minister.
Putin aims to Divide and Conquer
That's not relevant in my opinion. I'm not suggesting that Svoboda never had any support. Obviously they did.
Nor am I suggestion they never had people who were in elected office. The citizens of a country have the right to choose their leaders.... that includes people you don't like.
I don't like Putin. That doesn't mean suddenly I am justified in a full scale invasion of Russia, simply because I don't like Putin.
So you pointing out they had a few people in government, doesn't mean, or justify, jack to me. Nor anyone else.
What *I* was referring to, was you claimed we were involved somehow in the 2013 Euromaidan protests and fall of the Viktor Yanukovych government.
What I pointed out was there were a total of 3 major players in the Euromaidan protest, which were backed by three parties.
Arseniy Yatsenyuk, which led the the All-Ukrainian Union, which is Center-Right, and affiliated with the International Democrat Union.
Vitali Klitschko, which led the UDAR party, a Center-Left party affiliated with the European People's Part.
Oleh Tyahnybok, which was leader of the Svoboda party, the party you claim is so bad.
Out of these three, Yatsenyuk was made prime minister, and Klitschko became Mayor of Kiev, while Tyahnybok was expelled just 6 months later, and the entire party was devestated in the 2014 election, where they gained less than 0.25% of the vote, compared to over 10% of the vote in years passed. They only have 7 seats left in Parliament, out of 450.
Svodoba, now is less significant in the Ukriane, than the Independent party in the US.
That's my point. You sit there and claim we supported some sort of neo-Nazis in the Ukraine, yet the evidence doesn't show that. The people that are still in power, are not the Neo-Nazis, and the Neo-Nazis are almost irrelevant now.
The facts do not support your claims. That's all there is to it.