Psych exams for gun purchases

[JoeB131]

Aren't the interwebs great? A poser like you who thinks an AR is a long range rifle can make believe he knows the first thing about firearms.

Do you also spend your weekends commanding the French forces at Waterloo?

Again, my MOS in the army - 76Y. Unit Supply Specialist/Small Arms repair. Thanks for asking.

 

[Hollie]

Again, my MOS in the army - 76Y. Unit Supply Specialist/Small Arms repair. Thanks for asking.

Again. Isn't the internet great when posers like you can be anythig you want?

How is that Waterloo campaign going?

 

[JoeB131]

Again. Isn't the internet great when posers like you can be anythig you want?

How is that Waterloo campaign going?

Wouldn't know..

If I publish pictures of myself in uniform, will it get you to admit you were wrong?

 

[Hollie]

Wouldn't know..

If I publish pictures of myself in uniform, will it get you to admit you were wrong?

Are you going to scour the web for photos?

 

[JoeB131]

Are you going to scour the web for photos?

Don't have to, I can post one right now.

And a picture of myself today giving you the finger.

But before I do, will you admit that you were wrong if I do?

 

[Hollie]

Don't have to, I can post one right now.

And a picture of myself today giving you the finger.

But before I do, will you admit that you were wrong if I do?

So, yes. You're going to scour the web for photos.

I can use Photoshop, too.

 

[JoeB131]

So, yes. You're going to scour the web for photos.

I can use Photoshop, too.

So you'll admit you have no integrity..

Got it.

Not that I expected anything less.

 

[Captain Caveman]

The times are uh changin. If the right doesn't do something about the lefts newly attempts to dismantle the 2A, the red flood coming in Nov. won't be much more than a small wave.

The right better do something besides ignore this situation that's upon them. Speaking from a political strategy stand point, if the right tries to ignore this gun violence issue, they won't gain near as many seats.

So, I was thinking (Oh noooo. Here he goes again)
If the right came up with a law that states one must pass a psych exam in order to purchase a gun, what should applicants be disqualified for.

I know, I know. It's retarded. But doing nothing is the government allowing more mass killings. I get the point, because I'm pro 2A. Laws don't stop crime. Gun laws aren't going to stop mass shooting. I get all that. So I'm asking for some common sense here.

Me personally, I didn't mind getting a gun permit. In fact, I bragged about it when I first got it. Even thought having to get one, meant I was allowing the state government to infringe upon my 2A. But in the end, I'm still able to carry. I'm still able to put myself in a position to save lives if the chance arises.

So I'm thinking, the things that would disqualify someone from legally buying a gun would be the following. Please add your ideas.

1. Anyone with a record of violence in their recent history. Say 5 years. (per 911 calls or provable reports)
2. Anyone who's committed any sort of crime, using a gun. Whether it was fired or not. (holstered doesn't count as using)
3. Anyone with a history of mental disorders in the last 5 years. Especially those on mental meds to control their behavior.

One thing that needs to be highly protected are decent gun owners from false accusations. Decent gun owners pose no threat to society. In fact, in many instances, they've protected and saved many lives using their weapons. Those peoples rights should in no way, shape or form, be infringed upon.
People like Ramos, I could care less about their rights.



Let's dance.

A generation is approx 20 to 30 years, the average being 25 years. The gun problem is the current generation. So why not scrap the 2nd Amendment in 40 years time. Many older gun nuts will be dead by then, the not so older ones will probably be into retirement. Then the rest have 40 years to adjust, and the unborn will enjoy the new gun culture, as it gets safer. Then simply start adopting gun laws and regs that other Western civilized countries have

 

[Big Bend Texas]

What part of "gun control laws are constitutional" and "the second amendment does not guarantee the right of anyone to own any weapon at any time" do you not get? I mean, it's been 83 years for fuck's sake. Need another 83 to puzzle it out?

Again, those would be the time, manner, and place limitations on where the right may be exercised.

The decision in no way left room for broad bans on guns or carry limiting the rights, of, "The People".

Individuals through due process may lose any or all of their rights up to and including the right to life.

The original NFA was gutted by the SCOTUS and lower courts so try again.

 

[Hollie]

So you'll admit you have no integrity..

Got it.

Not that I expected anything less.

Admit you're a fraud. You will feel better about yourself,

 

[JoeB131]

Admit you're a fraud. You will feel better about yourself,

I don't have to, I know what I've done...

 

[JoeB131]

Again, those would be the time, manner, and place limitations on where the right may be exercised.

The decision in no way left room for broad bans on guns or carry limiting the rights, of, "The People".

Individuals through due process may lose any or all of their rights up to and including the right to life.

The original NFA was gutted by the SCOTUS and lower courts so try again.

And look how well that's worked out for us. We can't even send kids to school without bullet proof backpacks.

 

[YoursTruly]

A generation is approx 20 to 30 years, the average being 25 years. The gun problem is the current generation. So why not scrap the 2nd Amendment in 40 years time. Many older gun nuts will be dead by then, the not so older ones will probably be into retirement. Then the rest have 40 years to adjust, and the unborn will enjoy the new gun culture, as it gets safer. Then simply start adopting gun laws and regs that other Western civilized countries have

That's probably the way it'll go down. It's gonna take decades.

I think the psych test is unconstitutional. But in todays climate, you have to wonder why these psycho's are able to buy a gun legally. It's because no one knew how much of a psycho they were until after the triggers were pulled.
And throw in the fact that there's rarely a decent gun owner around to take out the psycho before the bodies start dropping.

It's a huge mess. A lot more armed decent gun owners, more gun restrictions or something along the lines of a psych test isn't an absolute solution, by any means. The radicals on both sides of this issue need not be part of this discussion. The radical left wants to keep decent gun owners from carrying. And the radical right will protect a psycho's right to buy and carry.<<< Retarded. Both of them.

 

[JoeB131]

That's probably the way it'll go down. It's gonna take decades.

I think the psych test is unconstitutional. But in todays climate, you have to wonder why these psycho's are able to buy a gun legally. It's because no one knew how much of a psycho they were until after the triggers were pulled.

Bullshit.

James Holmes was in the process of being expelled from his school because of his mental issues.
Adam Lanza's mom was in the process of institutionalizing him before he went on his rampage (with her guns)
Seung-Hui Cho (the VA Tech Shooter) was sent to a mental hospital (after months of anti-social behavior on campus) and found to be a danger to himself and others.
Nicholas Cruz had a long history of mental illness and incidents with the police.
Jared Loughner was suspended from his college after numerous disruptive incidents on campus.

I'm sure once we get Salvador Ramos' juvey records unsealed, we are going to find out all sorts of shit about him, too!

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[Captain Caveman]

That's probably the way it'll go down. It's gonna take decades.

I think the psych test is unconstitutional. But in todays climate, you have to wonder why these psycho's are able to buy a gun legally. It's because no one knew how much of a psycho they were until after the triggers were pulled.
And throw in the fact that there's rarely a decent gun owner around to take out the psycho before the bodies start dropping.

It's a huge mess. A lot more armed decent gun owners, more gun restrictions or something along the lines of a psych test isn't an absolute solution, by any means. The radicals on both sides of this issue need not be part of this discussion. The radical left wants to keep decent gun owners from carrying. And the radical right will protect a psycho's right to buy and carry.<<< Retarded. Both of them.

Decent or not, there's no reason for anyone to walk about in public with a gun, concealed or not. If they try that in the UK, the arms unit of the police will be on them like a ton of bricks because the public would have rang the cops. Then they'll be in deep shit.

And the crux of the matter is, how do we know if someone buying the gun is decent? Presumed because the 2A gives them the Right?

 

[YoursTruly]

Decent or not, there's no reason for anyone to walk about in public with a gun, concealed or not. If they try that in the UK, the arms unit of the police will be on them like a ton of bricks because the public would have rang the cops. Then they'll be in deep shit.

And the crux of the matter is, how do we know if someone buying the gun is decent? Presumed because the 2A gives them the Right?

67 billion people in the UK.
330 million the USA.

Pretty easy to regulate guns with so few people.

 

[JoeB131]

67 billion people in the UK.
330 million the USA.

Pretty easy to regulate guns with so few people.

Billion, really?

67 Million (which is what I am guessing you were trying to say) is still a fairly large group. Yet they make gun laws work just fine. Japan has 110 Million, they make gun laws work just fine.

I'm not even suggesting we go as far as Japan or the UK. Going as far as Germany (Gun ownership, but highly regulated) would probably be fine.

 

[Captain Caveman]

67 billion people in the UK.
330 million the USA.

Pretty easy to regulate guns with so few people.

Personally, I think 67 billion is quite a lot

How many gun owners are they in both countries and what's that per capita. That'll give you a more realistic comparison

 

[YoursTruly]

Personally, I think 67 billion is quite a lot

How many gun owners are they in both countries and what's that per capita. That'll give you a more realistic comparison

Our history of guns in this country is deeply rooted. We used them to kick the Brit's butt out of our country.

Our 2A was fine and dandy until the criminal element found ways of getting their hands on them, easily. Now we have a problem with ONLY the criminals getting them. We don't have a problem with decent, responsible gun owners.
The democrats here want to control the rights of decent, responsible gun owners, because we're the only ones they think they can control.
This is unacceptable because we need our guns to defend ourselves from criminals.

You've heard of the US democrats wanting to defund our police? Giving criminals shorter prison sentencing? Some prosecutors not even indicting violent criminals.

Just last year, one of these violent thugs ran his car through a parade. The guy had a rap sheet as long as your leg. And was still out in our society.
George Floyd was allowed into our society even after he robbed and beat a woman at gun point. And now he's a martyr for the left.
Those of us who aren't democrats see this issue for what it is. The left is too lenient on violent thugs.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Our history of guns in this country is deeply rooted. We used them to kick the Brit's butt out of our country.

Why did you omit that the forefather's butts were getting kicked, so the French came in to save the day for America?

Can you explain that?