Pretti Shooting my opinion as a member of US Lawfare

[Dragonlady]

Excellent summation, best narrative that I've seen yet. Based on what he said, if applied to the Byrd/Babbit case, Byrd should have been charged with manslaughter at a minimum.

This isn't even a comparison of apples to oranges. This is equating a violent insurrectionist with a state goal of murdering House/Senate members, attacking armed law enforcement who had their guns drawn and were ordering the criminals to stop or they'd shoot.

Pretti wasn't brandishing a weapon, unless you consider his cellphone a "weapon", and he was shot in the back of the head AFTER he was disarmed, and while he was on his knees and helpless.

 

[OODA_Loop]

This isn't even a comparison of apples to oranges. This is equating a violent insurrectionist with a state goal of murdering House/Senate members, attacking armed law enforcement who had their guns drawn and were ordering the criminals to stop or they'd shoot.

Pretti wasn't brandishing a weapon, unless you consider his cellphone a "weapon", and he was shot in the back of the head AFTER he was disarmed, and while he was on his knees and helpless.

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The image is on the left is debunked as AI.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Why did Pretti carry a gun to the protest? Who did he plan to shoot?

 

[Leo123]

You cant possibly know "he was looking to get even". You cant read minds and you cant ask a dead man. You are just assigning evil intentions to a dead man to soften the blow of the killing, to make it seem like it was saving some future issue. Justice doesnt work like that. You dont get to make up his motivations.

There is also no video evidence of the encounter from a week earlier that you allude to. Whether it happened or not cannot be trusted from the same people telling us he was intending to do massive damage and assassinating ICE agents. We saw that wasnt true. They cant be trusted. We need to see with our own eyes.

I will give you credit for posting an actual thread instead of just trolling though. Nice growth.

Pretti was involved with ICE watch and was known to ICE because he got involved before and suffered a broken rib. Pretti was at the doughnut shop because Signal website sent out the call for agitators to go there as ICE was arresting an illegal-alien criminal. He refused to stay on the sidewalk and started directing traffic to block ICE. He tried to interfere with an ICE detention and got rightly pepper sprayed. He fought officers and did not let them know he was armed. There are reports that his Sig-Saur was a model that has complaints about firing by itself or when dropped. IMO, that was the first shot heard. After that Pretti reached in his pocket and pulled something out which would well be perceived as being another gun in the chaos of the moment.

 

[Hafar1014]

This administration has lied to our faces about this. Only a fool would believe the government report. Pretti did not act the way you described. You have chosen to believe lies.

The report supports wrongly use of deadly force. Im defensing Pretti. If we didnt think for sure you were simply dumb you have removed all doubt

 

[Leo123]

The image is on the left is debunked as AI.

By who? Link?

 

[Hafar1014]

Still attempting to demonize the victim???? What a good little cultist you are!!! Stupid, gullible and completely loyal to the regime.

Here's the problem for YOU, little TrumpHumper, NOBODY with an IQ over 70 believes ANYTHING Trump, ICE, Noem, the DOJ, or anyone who works for them, is saying.

That's not just in the USA, but ALL OVER THE WORLD. Only idiots are still parroting Trump's lies.

My post defends Pretti. God you people are just plain stupid

 

[OODA_Loop]

By who? Link?

https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.942Z29E

 

[JohnDB]

 

[Seymour Flops]

The image is on the left is debunked as AI.

It is getting pointless to "debate" people whose method is to pile one lie on top of another.

 

[Lockback]

Another Far Left psycho.

 

[Hafar1014]

This administration has lied to our faces about this. Only a fool would believe the government report. Pretti did not act the way you described. You have chosen to believe lies.

Im defending Pretti

 

[Dragonlady]

So you are 100% dishonest.

I'm wondering (with an open mind) whether WWW is also.

I'm not the dishonest one here Floppy. ICE disarmed the ICU nurse and then shot him in the head. It doesn't get more blatant than that.
And just like every other time a white civilian gets shot by the right or the police, you clowns immediately vilify the victim. NOBODY believes the bullshit any more and yet here you are defending Trump's thugs, and calling the victim the one in the wrong.

 

[OODA_Loop]

It is getting pointless to "debate" people whose method is to pile one lie on top of another.

No its not pointless. At any given time there 5-8000 or so viewers on here. I remain committed to countering the radical left narrative.

 

[OODA_Loop]

I'm not the dishonest one here Floppy. ICE disarmed the ICU nurse and then shot him in the head. It doesn't get more blatant than that.
And just like every other time a white civilian gets shot by the right or the police, you clowns immediately vilify the victim. NOBODY believes the bullshit any more and yet here you are defending Trump's thugs, and calling the victim the one in the wrong.

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Its dishonest to post fake images to support your false narrative.

 

[citygator]

Pretti was involved with ICE watch and was known to ICE because he got involved before and suffered a broken rib. Pretti was at the doughnut shop because Signal website sent out the call for agitators to go there as ICE was arresting an illegal-alien criminal. He refused to stay on the sidewalk and started directing traffic to block ICE. He tried to interfere with an ICE detention and got rightly pepper sprayed. He fought officers and did not let them know he was armed. There are reports that his Sig-Saur was a model that has complaints about firing by itself or when dropped. IMO, that was the first shot heard. After that Pretti reached in his pocket and pulled something out which would well be perceived as being another gun in the chaos of the moment.

Total made up bullshit, also known as lies.

His gun never fired. That was confirmed by ICE reporting and Police.

He never reached into his pocket. There is video of him reaching his back AFTER he was shot. The videos you see showing his hand go to his back was AFTER getting shot. He moved his hand to the pain.

He never interfered, he never fought. He didnt throw a punch or a kick.

You got everything wrong. So are you lying on purpose or just not informed?

 

[Dragonlady]

Its dishonest to post fake images to support your false narrative.

Not a fake image. But you're standing by your fake narrative. Even Trump is walking back his lies.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Not a fake image.

https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.942Z29E

Sure it is. Come back with intellectual honesty.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Not a fake image. But you're standing by your fake narrative. Even Trump is walking back his lies.

https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.942Z29E

 

[SaxonJackson]

The latest report from the Federal government supports this was an illegal use of deadly force. After He was disarmed there was no imminent threat. 5 seconds after the gun was taken away he was shot by two agents. There were no furtive movements, and he was restrained, violently resisting yes, but unarmed. The agents screwed up.

In context Pretti had a violent encounter a week before breaking his rib, went to the protest/riot with a loaded gun, and was looking to get even. An act of total stupidity. But the use of deadly force was not justified.

DHS report says 2 agents fired weapons in Alex Pretti shooting

DHS report sent to the House Oversight Committee says two federal agents shot Alex Pretti and does not say that Pretti drew his gun.

abcnews.go.com

Funny ... when I was saying it was a murder ... the cultist disagreed with me. But if Trump or one of his goons says it ... then it becomes gospel. So predictable.