Pretti Shooting my opinion as a member of US Lawfare

[XponentialChaos]

He can't.
It reaches the legal definition.
He's just hoping and spitting into the wind.

Wrong again.

assault

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[WorldWatcher]

I provided a key frame-by-key frame analysis of Pretti's initial actions to clearly disprove claims that he was an innocent observer that ICE went after.

Guess what those making that claim did?

You post said he was reaching into his pocket.

No support.

WW

 

[WorldWatcher]

By who? Link?

Here thinking of a different image where the head was swapped.

In that image there was no beard.

WW

 

[Leo123]

Total made up bullshit, also known as lies.

His gun never fired. That was confirmed by ICE reporting and Police.

He never reached into his pocket. There is video of him reaching his back AFTER he was shot. The videos you see showing his hand go to his back was AFTER getting shot. He moved his hand to the pain.

He never interfered, he never fought. He didnt throw a punch or a kick.

You got everything wrong. So are you lying on purpose or just not informed?

You don't know if his gun never fired all that was reported is that Pretti never fired it. I saw a video that seemed to show it discharged when the officer was taking the gun away. I also learned that that particular Sig-Sauer has a history of unintended firing.

You make no sense, he wouldn't be reaching for anything AFTER he was shot.

He interfered with the officers as clearly shown in the video that is why he got sprayed. He resisted restraint and was combative.

You are the one getting everything wrong.

 

[Seymour Flops]

You post said he was reaching into his pocket.

No support.

WW

He was.

Lefties on here are making false multiple claims with no support, and when I prove my claim, y'all run from it like welfare dolees running from a job fare.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Back to trolling. Cool. Later.

Little boi you are one of the biggest Trolls here.

 

[Slade3200]

I think this makes sense, but am wondering what will be said about the fact that the police probably couldn't hear one another because of the whistles and racket.

It would be said that you’re reaching. Then it would be asked why you are trying so hard to justify this horrible abuse of power?

 

[WorldWatcher]

He was.

Lefties on here are making false multiple claims with no support, and when I prove my claim, y'all run from it like welfare dolees running from a job fare.

Do post the video, along with the time back, so we can see what you claim.

WW

 

[scruffy]

Only a complete retard would walk into a herd of bulls and wave a red blanket at them. I have no sympathy for him.

I'm wondering if he told anyone he was armed. Colleagues? Fellow protesters? The dispatcher, perhaps? Maybe posted on social media? (Maybe that's why it was deleted?)

 

[scruffy]

Lefties on here are making false multiple claims with no support, and when I prove my claim, y'all run from it like welfare dolees running from a job fare.

You're right on this one. The whole truth is somewhere in the middle. Ten rounds is definitely overkill, no question there. I still think there's a whole lot more to the story. Here's a nurse, a nice guy, becoming angry to the point where he's kicking in police cars. One has to figure the feds are trading pictures at night, cause it's the same protesters all the time. Maybe they recognized him from last time and decided he deserved a special treat. If they did recognize him, they were certainly going to keep him far away from the cars, right?

 

[WorldWatcher]

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This is a screen grab I just made from the video linked above which is based on what has become known as the "Pink Lady" video. This is not "AI Enhanced" for clarity, it's from the raw video.

The time hack is 09:46 in the linked video.

It clearly shows that Pretti had his cell phone in his right hand and his left hand was in front and going toward the ground.

Pretti never reached into a pocket.
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Now an interesting point in the above video is that the first shot is identified and it does not appear to the the officer that removed Pretti's firearm. It was another officer.

The officer that removed the firearm and moving away has an interesting reaction. * * IF * * Pretti's Sig had misfired as some claim, the officer would have looked toward the firearm he was carrying. However when the first shot is fired her looks back toward the officer that fired the shot. He had Pretti's firearm in his right hand, when the first shot is fire the officer looks over his left should toward the sould of the shot.

WW

 

[citygator]

You don't know if his gun never fired all that was reported is that Pretti never fired it. I saw a video that seemed to show it discharged when the officer was taking the gun away. I also learned that that particular Sig-Sauer has a history of unintended firing.

You make no sense, he wouldn't be reaching for anything AFTER he was shot.

He interfered with the officers as clearly shown in the video that is why he got sprayed. He resisted restraint and was combative.

You are the one getting everything wrong.

It was reported that only two agents fired a gun. No others. Neither agent who fired possessed Alex’s gun. The government reported this.

 

[Lockback]

Wrong again.

assault

www.law.cornell.edu

I don't speak legalise.
I do listen to lawyers, however, who represent law enforcement and they say if you lay hands on a cop, it's no bueno, okay?

 

[Lockback]

That’s not an assault.

The next time you go out, shove the first cop you see and get back to us, clown.

 

[Leo123]

It was reported that only two agents fired a gun. No others. Neither agent who fired possessed Alex’s gun. The government reported this.

Not what I said. Pretti's gun was in the hand of the agent that took it from him. That agent turned away from the group that was trying to detain Pretti. The claim is that the gun went off by accident (as that model has been known to have uncommanded discharges) which prompted the other agents to fire on Pretti thinking he was shooting.

You seem to believe the agents just summarily executed Pretti for no reason which makes no sense. There was a reason those agents fired yet you refuse to consider anything but your hatred of ICE and Trump.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Not what I said. Pretti's gun was in the hand of the agent that took it from him. That agent turned away from the group that was trying to detain Pretti. The claim is that the gun went off by accident (as that model has been known to have uncommanded discharges) which prompted the other agents to fire on Pretti thinking he was shooting.

You seem to believe the agents just summarily executed Pretti for no reason which makes no sense. There was a reason those agents fired yet you refuse to consider anything but your hatred of ICE and Trump.

https://videos.metro.co.uk/video/met/2026/01/25/6418339899808595060/640x360_MP4_6418339899808595060.mp4

Well a couple of things.

#1 I don't see the discharge in that video.

#2 If evidence from the crime scene was properly collected, there would be a shell casing from Pretti's firearm.

#3 Ballistics would (a) show the weapon was fired and (b) the shell casing was fired by that firearm when compared to the firearm, the maginze, and other ammo in the magazine.

#4 There woudl be damage to the street at the point in the video where the first shot was heard.

#4 As shown in the other video, as the officer is moving away with Pretti's firearm, when the first shot occurs he looks over his left shoulder toward the sound of the first shot. However the officer was holding Pretty's firearm in his right hand. Normal reaction would have been to look at the gun you are holding if there had just been an accidential discharge.
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I will stand corrected if the evidence is turned over for independent analysis and reporting. However what we have right now is DHS processing evidence from a DHS shooting. So let's hear what evidence was collected, was it properly tagged-n-bagged, where there photos of the crime scene and do they show damage to the road at the point of discharge.

WW

 

[XponentialChaos]

I don't speak legalise.
I do listen to lawyers, however, who represent law enforcement and they say if you lay hands on a cop, it's no bueno, okay?

Obviously you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.

You brought up the legal definition. I just showed it to you.

What Pretti did was not assault by the legal definition.

The next time you go out, shove the first cop you see and get back to us, clown.

“Shove” lol.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Do post the video, along with the time back, so we can see what you claim.

WW

Wait, you were serious about that?

You think you making a sarcastic remark, like "it's not like there was a video," and me saying that there is and it shows him reacing into his pocket creates an obligation for me to provide you a video presentation with a time hack?

So, you can ignore it?

I'll tell you what, WW, you make some honest comments on this presentation and I'll be happy to do as you ask.

You don't have to agree, but if you disagree, back it up with evidence.

Post in thread 'New: CBP Shoots and Kills Man in MN'

Jan 27, 2026

Here, I'll Zapruder this for you:

This is the gunman Pretti (red arrow) at least five feet from the nearest ICE officer (green Arrow) who is apparently ordering a woman (pink arrow) to stop chasing him:

I don't know who or what sex the person Pretti appears to have in a headlock, or some awkward hug, is, or what he/she is doing.

Here the officer forces the woman to stop acosting him, as Gunman Pretti steps toward the officer, whose face is turned away from Pretti:

Here is Pretti, having closed in from five feet, getting in the face of the officer, who can...

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Or . . . is that a one-way street?

Don't feel bad if you choose to ignore it. All the other hard-left Democrats did.

 

[Seymour Flops]

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This is a screen grab I just made from the video linked above which is based on what has become known as the "Pink Lady" video. This is not "AI Enhanced" for clarity, it's from the raw video.

The time hack is 09:46 in the linked video.

It clearly shows that Pretti had his cell phone in his right hand and his left hand was in front and going toward the ground.

Pretti never reached into a pocket.
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Now an interesting point in the above video is that the first shot is identified and it does not appear to the the officer that removed Pretti's firearm. It was another officer.

The officer that removed the firearm and moving away has an interesting reaction. * * IF * * Pretti's Sig had misfired as some claim, the officer would have looked toward the firearm he was carrying. However when the first shot is fired her looks back toward the officer that fired the shot. He had Pretti's firearm in his right hand, when the first shot is fire the officer looks over his left should toward the sould of the shot.

WW

At what point did Pretti comply with the officers' orders so they could safely search him for other weapons?

What time hack is that?

 

[Seymour Flops]

9 : 45