Pretti Shooting my opinion as a member of US Lawfare

[OldFlame]

DEAD is DEAD

Yes, Babbit is still dead, without having any weapon or altercation with law enforcement, or being any threat to anyone's life. I will rub your hypocrisy in your face every chance I get.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Yet Byrd walks free with no repercussions to this day.

Sure there were...

..... ..... ..... Lt. Byrd got promoted to Capt. Byrd.

..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... Probably for helping to defend Congress from the MAGA violent mob.

WW

 

[rightwinger]

Yes, Babbit is still dead, without having any weapon or altercation with law enforcement, or being any threat to anyone's life. I will rub your hypocrisy in your face every chance I get.

Domestic Terrorist

 

[Churchill]

The latest report from the Federal government supports this was an illegal use of deadly force. After He was disarmed there was no imminent threat. 5 seconds after the gun was taken away he was shot by two agents. There were no furtive movements, and he was restrained, violently resisting yes, but unarmed. The agents screwed up.

In context Pretti had a violent encounter a week before breaking his rib, went to the protest/riot with a loaded gun, and was looking to get even. An act of total stupidity.

But the use of deadly force was not justified.

Everyone knows that, we don't need you to tell us, what do you want a medal for stating the obvious?

 

[westwall]

EIther case

They need to see an actual gun and he was face down

Plenty of face down criminals have shot cops.

 

[Hafar1014]

Plenty of face down criminals have shot cops.

Were they double jointed? Petri was turtled up face down blind from the OC spray helpless

 

[rightwinger]

Plenty of face down criminals have shot cops.

Without a gun in their hands?

 

[OldFlame]

Sure there were...

..... ..... ..... Lt. Byrd got promoted to Capt. Byrd.

..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... Probably for helping to defend Congress from the MAGA violent mob.

WW

Thanks for confirming that if you had no double standards, you'd have no standards at all.

 

[OldFlame]

Domestic Terrorist

You might as well just say you don't have a response, same thing.

 

[Seymour Flops]

It does not.

If you think so give us the time hack.

WW
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I provided a key frame-by-key frame analysis of Pretti's initial actions to clearly disprove claims that he was an innocent observer that ICE went after.

Guess what those making that claim did?

 

[Lockback]

This is the best analysis I've seen.
Colion is not only a gun guy but an attorney. And this is a very honest look.

 

[Dragonlady]

The latest report from the Federal government supports this was an illegal use of deadly force. After He was disarmed there was no imminent threat. 5 seconds after the gun was taken away he was shot by two agents. There were no furtive movements, and he was restrained, violently resisting yes, but unarmed. The agents screwed up.

In context Pretti had a violent encounter a week before breaking his rib, went to the protest/riot with a loaded gun, and was looking to get even. An act of total stupidity. But the use of deadly force was not justified.

DHS report says 2 agents fired weapons in Alex Pretti shooting

DHS report sent to the House Oversight Committee says two federal agents shot Alex Pretti and does not say that Pretti drew his gun.

abcnews.go.com

Still attempting to demonize the victim???? What a good little cultist you are!!! Stupid, gullible and completely loyal to the regime.

Here's the problem for YOU, little TrumpHumper, NOBODY with an IQ over 70 believes ANYTHING Trump, ICE, Noem, the DOJ, or anyone who works for them, is saying.

That's not just in the USA, but ALL OVER THE WORLD. Only idiots are still parroting Trump's lies.

 

[Dragonlady]

I provided a key frame-by-key frame analysis of Pretti's initial actions to clearly disprove claims that he was an innocent observer that ICE went after.

Guess what those making that claim did?

Your frame by frame analysis isn't worth the paper it's written on Floppy. And only an idiot was post such a thing.

 

[Lockback]

Still attempting to demonize the victim???? What a good little cultist you are!!! Stupid, gullible and completely loyal to the regime.

Here's the problem for YOU, little TrumpHumper, NOBODY with an IQ over 70 believes ANYTHING Trump, ICE, Noem, the DOJ, or anyone who works for them, is saying.

That's not just in the USA, but ALL OVER THE WORLD. Only idiots are still parroting Trump's lies.

I'm staring at The Cult right now: the ranting of a madman. Or madwoman. Or whatever.

 

[IM2]

There is an official report by the Federal Government. Pretti wanted revenge thats why he was there with a gun and acted in a stupid way but he should not have been shot

This administration has lied to our faces about this. Only a fool would believe the government report. Pretti did not act the way you described. You have chosen to believe lies.

 

[IM2]

There is no doubt the bystanders contributed to a chaotic environment and heightened tensions among LE, and one can only wish this will cause them to realize they are contributing to the situation that caused one of their own to be killed. That doesn't diminish the officers' responsibility to use the training they got on how to handle such a situation. If he was violently resisting, they could have Rodney King'd him and not shot him.

BS.

 

[OldFlame]

This is the best analysis I've seen.
Colion is not only a gun guy but an attorney. And this is a very honest look.

Excellent summation, best narrative that I've seen yet. Based on what he said, if applied to the Byrd/Babbit case, Byrd should have been charged with manslaughter at a minimum.

 

[Lockback]

Excellent summation, best narrative that I've seen yet. Based on what he said, if applied to the Byrd/Babbit case, Byrd should have been charged with manslaughter at a minimum.

Absolutely. It's a miscarriage of justice he never faced any charges. I suspect he was protected by Pelosi.

 

[IM2]

There is no doubt the bystanders contributed to a chaotic environment and heightened tensions among LE, and one can only wish this will cause them to realize they are contributing to the situation that caused one of their own to be killed. That doesn't diminish the officers' responsibility to use the training they got on how to handle such a situation. If he was violently resisting, they could have Rodney King'd him and not shot him.

The bystanders didn't create the problem. The agents had a problem, and they acted out what they had always wanted to do.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Your frame by frame analysis isn't worth the paper it's written on Floppy. And only an idiot was post such a thing.

So you are 100% dishonest.

I'm wondering (with an open mind) whether WWW is also.