President Trump: “We are at the brink of World War 3 in Ukraine. And we need a peace deal right now. I would have a peace deal within 24hrs"

[zaangalewa]

... Here in the US we will never make "swords into plowshares". ...

Good luck. Bye bye, desperado.

By the way: Where are the swords of California and Nevada - and why they are not in war with each other?

 

[Kruska]

Such is the as here. Trump STRENGTHENED NATO. He pressured NATO allies, and they're spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016, They're supposed to put in 2% of their GNP. They werent doing that, Trump got them to do it.

I don't share that statement at all. Also e.g. Germany, Italy, France, Spain (the big European boys in NATO) did not follow suit - not sure about the UK.
Only the former Eastern Block countries - due to obvious reasons, increased their military spending's, not to mention those added increases by the aforementioned especially since Feb. 2022.
So it is actually Biden's "war-interest" that has caused a rapid increase in defense spending throughout NATO

 

[struth]

The US has no jurisdiction over Americans abroad. We can't force them to come home.

In addition there was a problem. We didn't have enough troops to secure the highway from Kabul to Bagram AFB.

1) i know yoj can’t force them…the problem is like our allies they weren’t given an option…many are still hostage over there
2) that’s true had xiden not surrendered in the middle of the night and moved people out fired that wouldn’t of been an issue

 

[surada]

of course not but as the military brass said in their recommendation that would of also met out NATO allies would of stayed…as well. Maybe you read the transcript from their testimony where they highlighted how xiden ignored them and how they contridicted their lies.

Post it. Post the testimony.

 

[surada]

1) i know yoj can’t force them…the problem is like our allies they weren’t given an option…many are still hostage over there
2) that’s true had xiden not surrendered in the middle of the night and moved people out fired that wouldn’t of been an issue

They were given an option. They had nearly 20 months notice to get out. Most stupid group of expats ever.

 

[surada]

Oh yeah Americans in Afghanistan lifelong dream is to be be hunted down and slaughtered by the taliban. Uh huh.

Liberals say the darndest things.

The expats had 20 months notice to leave.

 

[struth]

They were given an option. They had nearly 20 months notice to get out. Most stupid group of expats ever.

they weren’t given a option xiden left in the middle of the night.

they were living and working…they didn’t think xiden would ignore the peace accords

 

[struth]

Post it. Post the testimony.

geez man read the thread it’s been posted repeatedly….see post 309

 

[Faun]

they weren’t given a option xiden left in the middle of the night.

they were living and working…they didn’t think xiden would ignore the peace accords

They expected our troops would be out by May.

 

[Faun]

More fake news propaganda from CNN/MSNBS/PBS. Man, you guys really fall for some whoppers.

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Said the father of the woman Trump gave a job to.

 

[struth]

They expected our troops would be out by May.

No they didn't.....they expected the President who follow the peace agreement. He didn't.

 

[Faun]

No they didn't.....they expected the President who follow the peace agreement. He didn't.

The agreement had all our troops out by May 1, 2021. That you don't even know such basic details of the agreement explains why you're so lost debating about it.

 

[BlindBoo]

No they didn't.....they expected the President who follow the peace agreement. He didn't.

So disingenuous. Let me put it this way. In the agreement obviously part 3 and 4 were contingent on 1 and 2. The Taliban never got past 1, while Trump took us unconditionally to the very end of 4, by removing about 80% of our troops and abandoning 5 bases before he left office.

 

[struth]

So disingenuous. Let me put it this way. In the agreement obviously part 3 and 4 were contingent on 1 and 2. The Taliban never got past 1, while Trump took us unconditionally to the very end of 4, by removing about 80% of our troops and abandoning 5 bases before he left office.

The conditions were in place....we had not left when Trump was President, and he keep the troop levels were our military brass recommended.

The agreement really fell apart when Xiden won election. He had no interest in following the agreement at all.

 

[BlindBoo]

The conditions were in place....we had not left when Trump was President, and he keep the troop levels were our military brass recommended.

The agreement really fell apart when Xiden won election. He had no interest in following the agreement at all.

The Taliban breached the Agreement in March 2020. Before the first round of troop reductions. The military recommended a withdrawal based on the conditions of the Doha Accord. Not an unconditional one.

There was only a truce when Biden took over. The Taliban got everything else from Trump, and had to give up nothing else. Biden had no interest in fixing Trump's blunderous unconditional withdrawal by sending more of America's children into combat.

 

[Faun]

The conditions were in place....we had not left when Trump was President, and he keep the troop levels were our military brass recommended.

The agreement really fell apart when Xiden won election. He had no interest in following the agreement at all.

We didn't fully leave while Trump was president because the agreement had us out by May, 2021. But Trump had us down to a bare minimum within days of his leaving office so that we had no choice to pull out the remaining troops. He said so himself.

 

[Faun]

The Taliban breached the Agreement in March 2020. Before the first round of troop reductions. The military recommended a withdrawal based on the conditions of the Doha Accord. Not an unconditional one.

There was only a truce when Biden took over. The Taliban got everything else from Trump, and had to give up nothing else. Biden had no interest in fixing Trump's blunderous unconditional withdrawal by sending more of America's children into combat.

Including thousands of Taliban prisoners being freed.

 

[struth]

We didn't fully leave while Trump was president because the agreement had us out by May, 2021. But Trump had us down to a bare minimum within days of his leaving office so that we had no choice to pull out the remaining troops. He said so himself.

Of course we know, Trump signed the agreement, and was following the advice of the military.....we know he would of continued to do so.

What we do know is Xiden ignored it, and ignored the military, and surrendered to taliban, and betrayed our allies. We don't have to speculate on anything

 

[BlindBoo]

Including thousands of Taliban prisoners being freed.

5 to 1 swap. Such a deal.

 

[struth]

5 to 1 swap. Such a deal.

We had way more then they had.