President Trump: “We are at the brink of World War 3 in Ukraine. And we need a peace deal right now. I would have a peace deal within 24hrs"

[Faun]

The United Kingdom's Parliament on Wednesday held President Joe Biden in contempt for his withdrawal of American troops from Afghanistan, calling the move "catastrophic" and "shameful."

UK Parliament Holds Biden in Contempt for Afghanistan Withdrawal

The United Kingdom's Parliament on Wednesday held President Joe Biden in contempt for his withdrawal of American troops from Afghanistan, calling the move "catastrophic" and "shameful."

freebeacon.com

The Biden administration’s botched withdrawal from Afghanistan and the desperate situation in Kabul has angered U.S. allies, leaving them scrambling to evacuate their citizens and the Afghans who supported them during the 20 year war.

The United Kingdom’s Parliament on Wednesday held Joe Biden in contempt for Afghan debacle, with one veteran MP saying the U.S. abandoned its Afghan allies and disregarded their sacrifices.

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Wow...check out the moving speech in that link.....horrible stuff

A pity they didn't vote on it.

 

[struth]

Biden renegotiated every other Trump agreement. The Taliban's is just one more.
Most of the $85b of US equipment should have been recovered before leaving.
Pakistan is right there.

He didn't have to renegotiate it....he could of simply followed it....the Taliban was not in compliance with it.

Was Biden handcuffed by Trump's Taliban deal in Doha?

President Joe Biden and his national security team say the Trump administration tied their hands when it came to the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan.

apnews.com

But Biden can go only so far in claiming the agreement boxed him in. It had an escape clause: The U.S. could have withdrawn from the accord if Afghan peace talks failed. They did, but Biden chose to stay in it, although he delayed the complete pullout from May to September.

 

[struth]

If they weren't doing their part, why did Trump release 5000 Taliban prisoners?

Trump didn't....there was a prisoner exchange with the Afghan Govt, and the Taliban....the break down didn't happen unilt after that...

Was Biden handcuffed by Trump's Taliban deal in Doha?

President Joe Biden and his national security team say the Trump administration tied their hands when it came to the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan.

apnews.com

But Biden can go only so far in claiming the agreement boxed him in. It had an escape clause: The U.S. could have withdrawn from the accord if Afghan peace talks failed. They did, but Biden chose to stay in it, although he delayed the complete pullout from May to September.

 

[struth]

A pity they didn't vote on it.

No it's a pity...and a national embarrassment that Xiden was held in contempt of our oldest ally for his betrayal.

 

[Faun]

Biden renegotiated every other Trump agreement. The Taliban's is just one more.

Renegotiate what? Trump's agreement was to withdraw ALL our troops. Biden withdrew ALL our troops. Granted, he fucked it up, but he still pulled ALL our troops out, which was Trump's plan.

Most of the $85b of US equipment should have been recovered before leaving.
Pakistan is right there.

We spent 20 years and countless billions of dollars to prepare the Afghan government to stand up on their own. So your plan would have been to leave them there with no ability to defend themselves??

 

[struth]

Biden renegotiated every other Trump agreement. The Taliban's is just one more.

Renegotiate what? Trump's agreement was to withdraw ALL our troops. Biden withdrew ALL our troops. Granted, he fucked it up, but he still pulled ALL our troops out, which was Trump's plan.



We spent 20 years and countless billions of dollars to prepare the Afghan government to stand up on their own. So your plan would have been to leave them there with no ability to defend themselves??


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see post 282....you lie.

 

[Faun]

Trump didn't....there was a prisoner exchange with the Afghan Govt, and the Taliban....the break down didn't happen unilt after that...

Was Biden handcuffed by Trump's Taliban deal in Doha?

President Joe Biden and his national security team say the Trump administration tied their hands when it came to the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan.

apnews.com

But Biden can go only so far in claiming the agreement boxed him in. It had an escape clause: The U.S. could have withdrawn from the accord if Afghan peace talks failed. They did, but Biden chose to stay in it, although he delayed the complete pullout from May to September.

They freed those prisoners because it was part of Trump's agreement. In your eyes, is Trump ever responsible for things that go wrong?

 

[Faun]

No it's a pity...and a national embarrassment that Xiden was held in contempt of our oldest ally for his betrayal.

Nope, no more of an embarrassment to Trump than Pelosi tearing up Trump's SOTU speech. With no vote, all that amounted to was some members of UK's parliament throwing a hissy fit.

 

[struth]

They freed those prisoners because it was part of Trump's agreement. In your eyes, is Trump ever responsible for things that go wrong?

trump wasn’t in office when things went wrong with the taliban. He was following the agreement, he got the UN to agree to it as well. It was xiden when things went wrong there…in your mind is trump at fault for everything xiden does? actually nevermind, i know it is..you are a cultist not able to get past the propaganda or question your cult leader…reality doesn’t matter

 

[Faun]

trump wasn’t in office when things went wrong with the taliban. He was following the agreement, he got the UN to agree to it as well. It was xiden when things went wrong there…in your mind is trump at fault for everything xiden does? actually nevermind, i know it is..you are a cultist not able to get past the propaganda or question your cult leader…reality doesn’t matter

You said Trump WAS in office when things went bad with the Taliban.

When it was pointed out Trump didn't pull out all the troops, you said it was because the Taliban wasn't adhering to the agreement.

So at what point, did the Taliban cease adhering to the agreement?

 

[BlindBoo]

The U.S. could have withdrawn from the accord if Afghan peace talks failed. They did, but Biden chose to stay in it

Since the peace talks never started and the timeline for that part of the Accord was 135 days. Why did Trump reduce our troop strength from nearly 13,000 to 8,600 by the summer of 2020?. Furthermore, he knew the Taliban was not in compliance and still reduced our troop strength to 2,500 by the time he left office, even though he knew the Taliban had not fully complied with 6 out of 7 of the Doha conditions. Did he do that to hamstring the incoming administration?

there was a prisoner exchange with the Afghan Govt, and the Taliban....the break down didn't

That prisoner exchange was part of the US and Allied obligation in part one.

https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Agreement-For-Bringing-Peace-to-Afghanistan-02.29.20.pdf

 

[struth]

You said Trump WAS in office when things went bad with the Taliban.

When it was pointed out Trump didn't pull out all the troops, you said it was because the Taliban wasn't adhering to the agreement.

So at what point, did the Taliban cease adhering to the agreement?

the withdraws happened months after he left office…xiden did it

trump and our allies had no plans to leave until the agreement was honored. xiden ignored it

 

[struth]

Since the peace talks never started and the timeline for that part of the Accord was 135 days. Why did Trump reduce our troop strength from nearly 13,000 to 8,600 by the summer of 2020?. Furthermore, he knew the Taliban was not in compliance and still reduced our troop strength to 2,500 by the time he left office, even though he knew the Taliban had not fully complied with 6 out of 7 of the Doha conditions. Did he do that to hamstring the incoming administration?



That prisoner exchange was part of the US and Allied obligation in part one.

https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Agreement-For-Bringing-Peace-to-Afghanistan-02.29.20.pdf

yes the prisoner exchange between the talibans and the afghan gov was part of the peace plan. there were other obligations that were required after that, the taliban broke their part and xiden ignored it

 

[Faun]

the withdraws happened months after he left office…xiden did it

trump and our allies had no plans to leave until the agreement was honored. xiden ignored it

That's not true. Trump withdrew most of our remaining troops during jis final year in office.

Biden withdrew the last 2500 Trump left there.

 

[BlindBoo]

the withdraws happened months after he left office…xiden did it

trump and our allies had no plans to leave until the agreement was honored. xiden ignored it

The Allies and private contractors were withdrawn proportionately to our withdrawal numbers during the reductions all throughout 2020.

"Ambassador Khalilzad signed the Doha agreement with Mullah Baradar on 29, February, 2020, United States at 12,600 US troops with 8,000 NATO and 10,500 contractors."

Military Leaders, Gen. Milley Testify on Afghanistan Exit: Full Hearing Transcript | Rev Blog

Gen. Mark Milley and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin testified on the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan during a Senate hearing on September 28. Milley addressed his calls with China. Read the transcript of the hearing below.

www.rev.com

November, 2020, I received an unclassified signed order directing the United States military to withdraw all forces from Afghanistan no later than 15, January, 2021.

Gen. Milley: (32:48)
After further discussions regarding the risks associated with such a withdrawal, the order was rescinded. On 17 November we received a order, to reduce levels to 2,500 plus enabling forces no later than 15 January.

 

[BlindBoo]

yes the prisoner exchange between the talibans and the afghan gov was part of the peace plan. there were other obligations that were required after that, the taliban broke their part and xiden ignored it

The peace negotiation, a ceasefire with the Afghans Army and Government and a promise not to let Al Qaeda or ISIS us Afghanistan as a base is about all there was. It was broken on March 10, 2020. We still went ahead with the troop reductions.

The only way President Biden could have forced the Taliban to comply would have been to redeploy most if not more troops than Trump withdrew.

 

[struth]

The peace negotiation, a ceasefire with the Afghans Army and Government and a promise not to let Al Qaeda or ISIS us Afghanistan as a base is about all there was. It was broken on March 10, 2020. We still went ahead with the troop reductions.

The only way President Biden could have forced the Taliban to comply would have been to redeploy most if not more troops than Trump withdrew.

that’s not true…the military leaders were saying just leave the 2500. he ignored them

 

[struth]

The Allies and private contractors were withdrawn proportionately to our withdrawal numbers during the reductions all throughout 2020.

"Ambassador Khalilzad signed the Doha agreement with Mullah Baradar on 29, February, 2020, United States at 12,600 US troops with 8,000 NATO and 10,500 contractors."

Military Leaders, Gen. Milley Testify on Afghanistan Exit: Full Hearing Transcript | Rev Blog

Gen. Mark Milley and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin testified on the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan during a Senate hearing on September 28. Milley addressed his calls with China. Read the transcript of the hearing below.

www.rev.com

November, 2020, I received an unclassified signed order directing the United States military to withdraw all forces from Afghanistan no later than 15, January, 2021.

Gen. Milley: (32:48)
After further discussions regarding the risks associated with such a withdrawal, the order was rescinded. On 17 November we received a order, to reduce levels to 2,500 plus enabling forces no later than 15 January.

our allies weren’t withdraw…france and the uk were caught by total surprised hence why they held xiden in contempt

 

[struth]

That's not true. Trump withdrew most of our remaining troops during jis final year in office.

Biden withdrew the last 2500 Trump left there.

yep he keep the 2500 that our military leaders recommended that’s all we needed

 

[Dante Reawakened]

He could get it done because the current usurper isn't doing a damn think to broker a peaceful deal. Hell, he's escalated everything.

Tell him to go away. Nobody likes him



and he's soon to be convicted as the criminal he is

He is a part of why Ukraine is in trouble.