President Trump to Pelosi – White House Will Not Cooperate Until House Holds Vote on Impeachment

So... the White House says they will not cooperate until there is a vote on impeachment, just so they can say that there was a vote for impeachment without a proper investigation. Just how dumb is Trump and his lackeys?

White House, State Department, and other staff will be asked to testify, if they refuse they will receive a subpoena. If Trump tells them they are not allowed, he will then be openly committing obstruction and there will be no need for an investigation. End of story.

It doesn't take a whole lot of intelligence to see the road map here.

Executive privilege is not obstruction. Can you not see that the Democritters are acting like little pouty children?

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You don't get executive privilege in impeachment.... Try again. Are you one of Trump's lawyers?
Then call Pelosi, and tell her to hold the vote, and have the Democrats impeach Trump...

Oh, that's right...

They played you for chumps, didn't they!!!

You don't just hold the vote without doing the impeachment inquiry. This has been said a couple times now. Do you need me to say it again?

Here let me try to make this easier for you to understand... do cops just go around arresting people all the time without investigating crimes to decide charges first? Or do they just throw on the cuffs, take them to jail and tell them they'll let them know later why they are under arrest?
Cops can not force people to talk to them with out taking them in custody and then they can refuse to talk. Cops can not require you deliver materials to them or seize your property with OUT a Warrant Congress has no authority absent a vote for Impeachment to compel the Executive Branch to do anything they demand in relations to Impeachment..

Are you a moron or do you play one on this board? The President is not a private citizen. His conduct while in office is open to investigation by Congress. Congressional oversight is granted by the Constitution and does not even require a subpoena. They don't even need to call it a impeachment to launch a investigation. Cite the part of the Constitution that requires a authorizing vote.
 
Absolutely the right thing to do!!!! :clap2:
So you can add "obstruction of Congress" to the charges.

Dolt, by your obtuse reasoning, the Jews should have likewise been charged with obstruction of justice then for not assisting the Nazi's with opening the gas valves on themselves? All Trump is doing is effectively taking the "5th." Why should he cooperate in the Dims Witch Hunt. I guess you're too stupid and commie to believe in "Anything you say can be used against you." But then you WANTED Trump to spoon feed the House stuff to be used against him to make Nance's job easy.

If you don't already know you have grounds and reason to Impeach, then why are the jackals talking impeachment? Talking it for THREE ******* YEARS? You fuckers go hang yourselves now in the bed you've made for yourself. Let's see the straight up vote by the House. COMMIT.

TRUMP 2020

Trump is being denied a competent defense by the House not voting for an impeachment inquiry. By not voting to allow the power to do the investigation they are tying republicans hands and keep them from mounting a competent defense. Democrats are denying Trump DUE PROCESS in an effort to keep him from being able to fend off this illegal and manufactured lie.

Cite the Constitutional authority for that statement. Trump has no rights in a impeachment inquiry. The reason why Republicans can't mount a credible defense is because it is indefensible.
 
So... the White House says they will not cooperate until there is a vote on impeachment, just so they can say that there was a vote for impeachment without a proper investigation. Just how dumb is Trump and his lackeys?

White House, State Department, and other staff will be asked to testify, if they refuse they will receive a subpoena. If Trump tells them they are not allowed, he will then be openly committing obstruction and there will be no need for an investigation. End of story.

It doesn't take a whole lot of intelligence to see the road map here.
That is NOT how it works. The House has NO AUTHORITY to demand anything on Impeachment from the President or the executive Branch UNLESS they voted for impeachment. YOU know it I know it and so do the Congress and the White House.
Your confusing PEWDOG... HE doesn't understand that the impeachment inquiry must be authorized by a vote. This allows for subpoena powers for both republicans and democrats. This is important because the president is entitled to equal protections and DUE PROCESS. By not granting powers they are accusing Trump and denying him a defense and DUE PROCESS. They are trying to do to Trump what they tried to do to Kavenaugh by making him guilty and denying him the ability to defend himself.

Tell me where it states any of this in the Constitution. Congress has oversight powers which are granted by the Constitution and can be overridden only by the Constitution. They can investigate potential wrongdoing and require government employees to testify as to their knowledge of these events. Congress can also issue subpoenas. This can be done without a impeachment inquiry. The full House IS NOT required to hold a impeachment vote. The Constitution does not require that.
 
Until there is a vote to open an impeachment hearing even the subpoenas aren't valid.

Why don't democrats want to vote?

Because they want to hide the identities of those voting for impeachment so they don't suffer the wrath of the voters. Despite all the fake polls the democrats are aware that the voters are livid over this. It is too close to the election to have impeachment nonsense. Democrats want to take the vote away this time and undo an election they didn't like from last time.

The subpoenas are valid. House standing committees have subpoena power that doesn't require any vote.

Congressional Subpoena Power and Executive Privilege: The Coming Showdown Between the Branches

Congress has the duty to oversee the functioning of the executive branch.

I don't know which voters are "livid over this," but it doesn't matter.
Be VERY specific and CITE with links to ANY subpoenas issued......
 
Unwillingess to cooperate is not obstruction.

When he obstructs...we'll let you know.

You guys apparently can't see it and haven't gotten it right yet.

Impeding a congressional investigation falls under obstruction of justice.

He didn't say he would impede. He said he would not cooperate.

Like most of the left, you don't have the I.Q. to understand the difference.

That is impeding a congressional investigation. The people that work in the executive branch are paid by taxpayers not Trump. Trump will cooperate or face obstruction of justice charges.

They only have to comply with official legal requests.

If the police show up at your door without a warrant and you let them in...you are cooperating.

If they show up without a warrent and you say they can't come in......you are not impeding.

If they show up with a warrant, and you still refuse to let them in, you are guilty of obstruction.

He said he would not COOPERATE.

Refusing a congressional subpoena is obstruction.
Be VERY specific and NOW cite ANY subpoena issued so far.... with links.
 
Unwillingess to cooperate is not obstruction.

When he obstructs...we'll let you know.

You guys apparently can't see it and haven't gotten it right yet.

Impeding a congressional investigation falls under obstruction of justice.

He didn't say he would impede. He said he would not cooperate.

Like most of the left, you don't have the I.Q. to understand the difference.

That is impeding a congressional investigation. The people that work in the executive branch are paid by taxpayers not Trump. Trump will cooperate or face obstruction of justice charges.
Wrong, Congress has no authority to investigate the President for Impeachment UNLESS they vote to impeach Trump as one of the Three branches of Government is Free to ignore them unless they vote.

Wrong. Tell me where in the Constitution where it says there has to be a vote to open a impeachment inquiry.
There has always been one dumb ass.
 
Executive privilege is not obstruction. Can you not see that the Democritters are acting like little pouty children?

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You don't get executive privilege in impeachment.... Try again. Are you one of Trump's lawyers?
Then call Pelosi, and tell her to hold the vote, and have the Democrats impeach Trump...

Oh, that's right...

They played you for chumps, didn't they!!!

You don't just hold the vote without doing the impeachment inquiry. This has been said a couple times now. Do you need me to say it again?

Here let me try to make this easier for you to understand... do cops just go around arresting people all the time without investigating crimes to decide charges first? Or do they just throw on the cuffs, take them to jail and tell them they'll let them know later why they are under arrest?
Cops can not force people to talk to them with out taking them in custody and then they can refuse to talk. Cops can not require you deliver materials to them or seize your property with OUT a Warrant Congress has no authority absent a vote for Impeachment to compel the Executive Branch to do anything they demand in relations to Impeachment..

Are you a moron or do you play one on this board? The President is not a private citizen. His conduct while in office is open to investigation by Congress. Congressional oversight is granted by the Constitution and does not even require a subpoena. They don't even need to call it a impeachment to launch a investigation. Cite the part of the Constitution that requires a authorizing vote.
With out an Impeachment the President is free to cite Executive Privilege.
 
Until there is a vote to open an impeachment hearing even the subpoenas aren't valid.

Why don't democrats want to vote?

Because they want to hide the identities of those voting for impeachment so they don't suffer the wrath of the voters. Despite all the fake polls the democrats are aware that the voters are livid over this. It is too close to the election to have impeachment nonsense. Democrats want to take the vote away this time and undo an election they didn't like from last time.

The subpoenas are valid. House standing committees have subpoena power that doesn't require any vote.

Congressional Subpoena Power and Executive Privilege: The Coming Showdown Between the Branches

Congress has the duty to oversee the functioning of the executive branch.

I don't know which voters are "livid over this," but it doesn't matter.
Be VERY specific and CITE with links to ANY subpoenas issued......
I think you just confused him
 
Absolutely the right thing to do!!!! :clap2:
So you can add "obstruction of Congress" to the charges.

Dolt, by your obtuse reasoning, the Jews should have likewise been charged with obstruction of justice then for not assisting the Nazi's with opening the gas valves on themselves? All Trump is doing is effectively taking the "5th." Why should he cooperate in the Dims Witch Hunt. I guess you're too stupid and commie to believe in "Anything you say can be used against you." But then you WANTED Trump to spoon feed the House stuff to be used against him to make Nance's job easy.

If you don't already know you have grounds and reason to Impeach, then why are the jackals talking impeachment? Talking it for THREE ******* YEARS? You fuckers go hang yourselves now in the bed you've made for yourself. Let's see the straight up vote by the House. COMMIT.

TRUMP 2020

Trump is being denied a competent defense by the House not voting for an impeachment inquiry. By not voting to allow the power to do the investigation they are tying republicans hands and keep them from mounting a competent defense. Democrats are denying Trump DUE PROCESS in an effort to keep him from being able to fend off this illegal and manufactured lie.
Trump has no rights in a impeachment inquiry.
Cite the legal precedent where a US citizen EVER has NO RIGHTS! You are ******* amazing. So you mean, we could have impeached Obama at any time asnd charged him with anything and he had no right to even defend himself?! Who knew! :auiqs.jpg: Bee, you Tards just get Stupider by the day!

The reason why Republicans can't mount a credible defense is because it is indefensible.
Define a "credible" defense. WHAT defense of Trump would you say totally exonerates him? Tell where in common law a defense must be "credible" to be used? Can you tell me a single credible defense of Trump in the past 4 years? In other words, you would never admit to any defense of Trump carrying weight!

The reason why Trump cannot and has not mounted any defense is because he has yet to be CHARGED with anything! CHARGE HIM!

DONALD TRUMP: The four year trial by Democrat. No beginning, no middle, no point, and no end in sight. Forever investigated, repeatedly accused, but never charged.
 
So... the White House says they will not cooperate until there is a vote on impeachment, just so they can say that there was a vote for impeachment without a proper investigation. Just how dumb is Trump and his lackeys?

White House, State Department, and other staff will be asked to testify, if they refuse they will receive a subpoena. If Trump tells them they are not allowed, he will then be openly committing obstruction and there will be no need for an investigation. End of story.

It doesn't take a whole lot of intelligence to see the road map here.
That is NOT how it works. The House has NO AUTHORITY to demand anything on Impeachment from the President or the executive Branch UNLESS they voted for impeachment. YOU know it I know it and so do the Congress and the White House.
Your confusing PEWDOG... HE doesn't understand that the impeachment inquiry must be authorized by a vote. This allows for subpoena powers for both republicans and democrats. This is important because the president is entitled to equal protections and DUE PROCESS. By not granting powers they are accusing Trump and denying him a defense and DUE PROCESS. They are trying to do to Trump what they tried to do to Kavenaugh by making him guilty and denying him the ability to defend himself.

Tell me where it states any of this in the Constitution. Congress has oversight powers which are granted by the Constitution and can be overridden only by the Constitution. They can investigate potential wrongdoing and require government employees to testify as to their knowledge of these events. Congress can also issue subpoenas. This can be done without a impeachment inquiry. The full House IS NOT required to hold a impeachment vote. The Constitution does not require that.

Our whole constitution is about we the people.
The House represents the American people in each of their districts.
63 million American's voted for trump.

In order to overthrow those votes the floor has to vote for a formal inquiry of impeachment.
One party with no vote does not have the right to do this.
 
President Trump to Pelosi – White House Will Not Cooperate Until House Holds Vote on Impeachment

Not required according to House rules. Speaker Pelosi calls the shots.
 
President Trump to Pelosi – White House Will Not Cooperate Until House Holds Vote on Impeachment

Not required according to House rules. Speaker Pelosi calls the shots.
President Trump to Pelosi – White House Will Not Cooperate Until House Holds Vote on Impeachment

Not required according to House rules. Speaker Pelosi calls the shots.

This should tell everyone that this is just political.
If they were serious they would bring it to the floor for a vote.
This way gives them no clout.
 
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63 million American's voted for trump.
72 million Americans didn't vote for lying scum POS Tramp.

That was 63.8 not 72
He won get over it.
wrong as usual.
Trump / Pence Republican 50 + DC 538 100% 62,984,828 46.09%
Clinton / Kaine
Democratic 50 + DC 538 100% 65,853,514 48.18%
Johnson / Weld
Libertarian 50 + DC 538 100% 4,489,341 3.28%
Stein / Baraka
Green 44 + DC 480 89% 1,457,218 1.07%
McMullin / Finn Independent 11 84 15% 731,991 0.54%
Castle / Bradley Constitution 24 207 39% 203,090 0.15%

Total NOT voting for Tramp 72,866,468. Nearly 10 million more people voted against Tramp than for Tramp. He is truly a MINORITY president.
 
So... the White House says they will not cooperate until there is a vote on impeachment, just so they can say that there was a vote for impeachment without a proper investigation. Just how dumb is Trump and his lackeys?

White House, State Department, and other staff will be asked to testify, if they refuse they will receive a subpoena. If Trump tells them they are not allowed, he will then be openly committing obstruction and there will be no need for an investigation. End of story.

It doesn't take a whole lot of intelligence to see the road map here.
That is NOT how it works. The House has NO AUTHORITY to demand anything on Impeachment from the President or the executive Branch UNLESS they voted for impeachment. YOU know it I know it and so do the Congress and the White House.
Your confusing PEWDOG... HE doesn't understand that the impeachment inquiry must be authorized by a vote. This allows for subpoena powers for both republicans and democrats. This is important because the president is entitled to equal protections and DUE PROCESS. By not granting powers they are accusing Trump and denying him a defense and DUE PROCESS. They are trying to do to Trump what they tried to do to Kavenaugh by making him guilty and denying him the ability to defend himself.

Tell me where it states any of this in the Constitution. Congress has oversight powers which are granted by the Constitution and can be overridden only by the Constitution. They can investigate potential wrongdoing and require government employees to testify as to their knowledge of these events. Congress can also issue subpoenas. This can be done without a impeachment inquiry. The full House IS NOT required to hold a impeachment vote. The Constitution does not require that.

Our whole constitution is about we the people.
The House represents the American people in each of their districts.
63 million American's voted for trump.

In order to overthrow those votes the floor has to vote for a formal inquiry of impeachment.
One party with no vote does not have the right to do this.
Thamks for your (stupid) opinion because that’s all it is.
The House can begin an Impeachment in any manner it chooses.
The only thing mandated is the final vote
 
And there’s precedent. The Nixon case. No inquiry vote
 
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