President Trump to Pelosi – White House Will Not Cooperate Until House Holds Vote on Impeachment


I wonder if you understand that the Executive branch is not subservient to the Legislative?

You do understand that they have equal power and it is the legislative branches job to do what they are doing now. Trump must comply or it's evidence of him violating the constitution.

I'm am concerned that you don't understand the concept of evidence. Evidence is a physical and tangible asset. What it is not is an inference based upon an act that has an assigned motive by anyone.

They are coequal, and as such, Congress will be required to provide proof of their justification and or permit the White House participation in their attempted prosecution.

Executive privilege alone is sufficient to force the congress to go to the SCOTUS in order to force them to turn over any privileged documentation.

That could take a good long time. Perhaps if they cooperated with the White House they'd get more done.


There is plenty of evidence. Don't need your definition of what it is that conveniently excuses everything Trump has done. Trump has used executive privilege when it did not apply and now he faces more stringent requirements and can't use executive privilege as a cover. Congress has proven their justification and Trump provided more justification this afternoon.

You've had plenty of excuses for what the left has done so my "giveashitter" is low on this crap.
 
Can I get in on this funny assed thread?

So what's the SCOTUS have to say about denying someone due process"

Go for it, libtardos.

Who has been denied due process?


Me and my Congressman. He has the right to call witnesses and cross examination.

Really? He doesn't have any more right to do that than the left had to call witnesses in all those Benghazi hearings. Quit whining. It's your turn in the barrel this time.
So you admit it's not about honesty but payback for your butthurt.

Right wingers set the precedent on this one dummy.
Uh huh.

So when does it end?

God people can be stupid bitches.
 
Am I the ONLY person who doesn't give a shit what happens? I don't like the demoncraps I don't like Trump so I am sitting here eating popcorn enjoying the shit show.
You are the shit show.
 
Who has been denied due process?


Me and my Congressman. He has the right to call witnesses and cross examination.

Really? He doesn't have any more right to do that than the left had to call witnesses in all those Benghazi hearings. Quit whining. It's your turn in the barrel this time.
So you admit it's not about honesty but payback for your butthurt.

Right wingers set the precedent on this one dummy.
Uh huh.

So when does it end?

God people can be stupid bitches.

When Trump stops obstructing justice.
 
So... the White House says they will not cooperate until there is a vote on impeachment, just so they can say that there was a vote for impeachment without a proper investigation. Just how dumb is Trump and his lackeys?

White House, State Department, and other staff will be asked to testify, if they refuse they will receive a subpoena. If Trump tells them they are not allowed, he will then be openly committing obstruction and there will be no need for an investigation. End of story.

It doesn't take a whole lot of intelligence to see the road map here.

That's probably why you're lost.

Pelosi didn't put it to a vote in the House, trying to protect her moderate dems. Nobody really knows whether she has the votes on her own to
get the impeachment.

You do understand that not one subpoena has been served during this makeshift inquiry...don't you? Lot of threatening letters but no subpoenas.
If she subpoenas right now, and it is not obeyed, they can tie it up in the courts for months.

Her moderates have already told her the case must be narrow. They can't be jumping all over the board. They will not support her on a wild goose
chase. If they have something viable to impeach on, then they will go along. If it is something that will be shot down in the Senate, they won't

The Dems cannot let this impeachment go into 2020. They cannot be seen as disenfranchising half the Country. Their nominee would be toast, out of
spite.

The Donald is running out their clock. They need to hold a vote very quickly and they need something that has a chance of getting pass the Senate.

If she doesn't schedule a vote real soon...it only means she doesn't have the votes to get it passed..


She didn't put it to a vote... because the inquiry isn't over yet. WTF is so hard for you people to understand?

It's a simple step by step process that has been outlined a few times here now. I doubt some of you people are smart enough to follow the steps to make Kool-aid if you ******* aren't trolling and really don't get it.

Pelosi HAS THE VOTES TO PASS AN IMPEACHMENT... but it does no ******* good to do so without properly drawing up an article or articles with the supporting evidence. to send to the Senate to hold hearings on.

I'm going to bed. You people are too dense to discuss this with.

In every prior impeachment...A vote was held of the entire house to begin an "Impeachment Inquiry." That gives the Minority Party the right to
subpoena their own witnesses for debate on the floor. The vote sets the rules of the Inquiry.
 
So... the White House says they will not cooperate until there is a vote on impeachment, just so they can say that there was a vote for impeachment without a proper investigation. Just how dumb is Trump and his lackeys?

White House, State Department, and other staff will be asked to testify, if they refuse they will receive a subpoena. If Trump tells them they are not allowed, he will then be openly committing obstruction and there will be no need for an investigation. End of story.

It doesn't take a whole lot of intelligence to see the road map here.

That's probably why you're lost.

Pelosi didn't put it to a vote in the House, trying to protect her moderate dems. Nobody really knows whether she has the votes on her own to
get the impeachment.

You do understand that not one subpoena has been served during this makeshift inquiry...don't you? Lot of threatening letters but no subpoenas.
If she subpoenas right now, and it is not obeyed, they can tie it up in the courts for months.

Her moderates have already told her the case must be narrow. They can't be jumping all over the board. They will not support her on a wild goose
chase. If they have something viable to impeach on, then they will go along. If it is something that will be shot down in the Senate, they won't

The Dems cannot let this impeachment go into 2020. They cannot be seen as disenfranchising half the Country. Their nominee would be toast, out of
spite.

The Donald is running out their clock. They need to hold a vote very quickly and they need something that has a chance of getting pass the Senate.

If she doesn't schedule a vote real soon...it only means she doesn't have the votes to get it passed..


She didn't put it to a vote... because the inquiry isn't over yet. WTF is so hard for you people to understand?

It's a simple step by step process that has been outlined a few times here now. I doubt some of you people are smart enough to follow the steps to make Kool-aid if you ******* aren't trolling and really don't get it.

Pelosi HAS THE VOTES TO PASS AN IMPEACHMENT... but it does no ******* good to do so without properly drawing up an article or articles with the supporting evidence. to send to the Senate to hold hearings on.

I'm going to bed. You people are too dense to discuss this with.

In every prior impeachment...A vote was held of the entire house to begin an "Impeachment Inquiry." That gives the Minority Party the right to
subpoena their own witnesses for debate on the floor. The vote sets the rules of the Inquiry.
Dont tell crepitcrackwhore or leshstupid that. They may faint.
 
So... the White House says they will not cooperate until there is a vote on impeachment, just so they can say that there was a vote for impeachment without a proper investigation. Just how dumb is Trump and his lackeys?

White House, State Department, and other staff will be asked to testify, if they refuse they will receive a subpoena. If Trump tells them they are not allowed, he will then be openly committing obstruction and there will be no need for an investigation. End of story.

It doesn't take a whole lot of intelligence to see the road map here.

That's probably why you're lost.

Pelosi didn't put it to a vote in the House, trying to protect her moderate dems. Nobody really knows whether she has the votes on her own to
get the impeachment.

You do understand that not one subpoena has been served during this makeshift inquiry...don't you? Lot of threatening letters but no subpoenas.
If she subpoenas right now, and it is not obeyed, they can tie it up in the courts for months.

Her moderates have already told her the case must be narrow. They can't be jumping all over the board. They will not support her on a wild goose
chase. If they have something viable to impeach on, then they will go along. If it is something that will be shot down in the Senate, they won't

The Dems cannot let this impeachment go into 2020. They cannot be seen as disenfranchising half the Country. Their nominee would be toast, out of
spite.

The Donald is running out their clock. They need to hold a vote very quickly and they need something that has a chance of getting pass the Senate.

If she doesn't schedule a vote real soon...it only means she doesn't have the votes to get it passed..


She didn't put it to a vote... because the inquiry isn't over yet. WTF is so hard for you people to understand?

It's a simple step by step process that has been outlined a few times here now. I doubt some of you people are smart enough to follow the steps to make Kool-aid if you ******* aren't trolling and really don't get it.

Pelosi HAS THE VOTES TO PASS AN IMPEACHMENT... but it does no ******* good to do so without properly drawing up an article or articles with the supporting evidence. to send to the Senate to hold hearings on.

I'm going to bed. You people are too dense to discuss this with.

In every prior impeachment...A vote was held of the entire house to begin an "Impeachment Inquiry." That gives the Minority Party the right to
subpoena their own witnesses for debate on the floor. The vote sets the rules of the Inquiry.

There is no requirement for any of this. There is no precedent for "witnesses for debate on the floor." An inquiry does not have preset "rules" that limit the inquiry. The orange whore will get his due at trial if Articles of Impeachment are voted forward by the House, but how can these Articles be drafted until a full investigation is completed? Tell him to get his shit together and respond properly to Congress so that it can fulfill its oversight function. He has consistently been trying to hide his doings throughout his time in office, so he has created suspicion. He must respond to Congress.
 
Dem's are all talk on impeachment they don't have the stones to even hold a vote to start.
 
So... the White House says they will not cooperate until there is a vote on impeachment, just so they can say that there was a vote for impeachment without a proper investigation. Just how dumb is Trump and his lackeys?

White House, State Department, and other staff will be asked to testify, if they refuse they will receive a subpoena. If Trump tells them they are not allowed, he will then be openly committing obstruction and there will be no need for an investigation. End of story.

It doesn't take a whole lot of intelligence to see the road map here.

That's probably why you're lost.

Pelosi didn't put it to a vote in the House, trying to protect her moderate dems. Nobody really knows whether she has the votes on her own to
get the impeachment.

You do understand that not one subpoena has been served during this makeshift inquiry...don't you? Lot of threatening letters but no subpoenas.
If she subpoenas right now, and it is not obeyed, they can tie it up in the courts for months.

Her moderates have already told her the case must be narrow. They can't be jumping all over the board. They will not support her on a wild goose
chase. If they have something viable to impeach on, then they will go along. If it is something that will be shot down in the Senate, they won't

The Dems cannot let this impeachment go into 2020. They cannot be seen as disenfranchising half the Country. Their nominee would be toast, out of
spite.

The Donald is running out their clock. They need to hold a vote very quickly and they need something that has a chance of getting pass the Senate.

If she doesn't schedule a vote real soon...it only means she doesn't have the votes to get it passed..


She didn't put it to a vote... because the inquiry isn't over yet. WTF is so hard for you people to understand?

It's a simple step by step process that has been outlined a few times here now. I doubt some of you people are smart enough to follow the steps to make Kool-aid if you ******* aren't trolling and really don't get it.

Pelosi HAS THE VOTES TO PASS AN IMPEACHMENT... but it does no ******* good to do so without properly drawing up an article or articles with the supporting evidence. to send to the Senate to hold hearings on.

I'm going to bed. You people are too dense to discuss this with.

In every prior impeachment...A vote was held of the entire house to begin an "Impeachment Inquiry." That gives the Minority Party the right to
subpoena their own witnesses for debate on the floor. The vote sets the rules of the Inquiry.

There is no requirement for any of this. There is no precedent for "witnesses for debate on the floor." An inquiry does not have preset "rules" that limit the inquiry. The orange whore will get his due at trial if Articles of Impeachment are voted forward by the House, but how can these Articles be drafted until a full investigation is completed? Tell him to get his shit together and respond properly to Congress so that it can fulfill its oversight function. He has consistently been trying to hide his doings throughout his time in office, so he has created suspicion. He must respond to Congress.
Old Dysentery is spewing crap again...

Hold the damn vote and allow the Republicans the same power that you Democrats are wielding. You wont because you do not want to afford Trump the ability to defend himself under the law... The only reason to not vote for the inquiry is to keep republicans from being able to call witnesses and depose people.. Apart from your control of them..
 
So... the White House says they will not cooperate until there is a vote on impeachment, just so they can say that there was a vote for impeachment without a proper investigation. Just how dumb is Trump and his lackeys?

White House, State Department, and other staff will be asked to testify, if they refuse they will receive a subpoena. If Trump tells them they are not allowed, he will then be openly committing obstruction and there will be no need for an investigation. End of story.

It doesn't take a whole lot of intelligence to see the road map here.

That's probably why you're lost.

Pelosi didn't put it to a vote in the House, trying to protect her moderate dems. Nobody really knows whether she has the votes on her own to
get the impeachment.

You do understand that not one subpoena has been served during this makeshift inquiry...don't you? Lot of threatening letters but no subpoenas.
If she subpoenas right now, and it is not obeyed, they can tie it up in the courts for months.

Her moderates have already told her the case must be narrow. They can't be jumping all over the board. They will not support her on a wild goose
chase. If they have something viable to impeach on, then they will go along. If it is something that will be shot down in the Senate, they won't

The Dems cannot let this impeachment go into 2020. They cannot be seen as disenfranchising half the Country. Their nominee would be toast, out of
spite.

The Donald is running out their clock. They need to hold a vote very quickly and they need something that has a chance of getting pass the Senate.

If she doesn't schedule a vote real soon...it only means she doesn't have the votes to get it passed..


She didn't put it to a vote... because the inquiry isn't over yet. WTF is so hard for you people to understand?

It's a simple step by step process that has been outlined a few times here now. I doubt some of you people are smart enough to follow the steps to make Kool-aid if you ******* aren't trolling and really don't get it.

Pelosi HAS THE VOTES TO PASS AN IMPEACHMENT... but it does no ******* good to do so without properly drawing up an article or articles with the supporting evidence. to send to the Senate to hold hearings on.

I'm going to bed. You people are too dense to discuss this with.

In every prior impeachment...A vote was held of the entire house to begin an "Impeachment Inquiry." That gives the Minority Party the right to
subpoena their own witnesses for debate on the floor. The vote sets the rules of the Inquiry.

There is no requirement for any of this. There is no precedent for "witnesses for debate on the floor." An inquiry does not have preset "rules" that limit the inquiry. The orange whore will get his due at trial if Articles of Impeachment are voted forward by the House, but how can these Articles be drafted until a full investigation is completed? Tell him to get his shit together and respond properly to Congress so that it can fulfill its oversight function. He has consistently been trying to hide his doings throughout his time in office, so he has created suspicion. He must respond to Congress.
Old Dysentery is spewing crap again...

Hold the damn vote and allow the Republicans the same power that you Democrats are wielding. You wont because you do not want to afford Trump the ability to defend himself under the law... The only reason to not vote for the inquiry is to keep republicans from being able to call witnesses and depose people.. Apart from your control of them..

The time to mount a defense, call witnesses, and depose people comes much later in the process. Right now, all subpoenas must be complied with, under the law. The trump administration has failed to comply with the law. What the trump administration is trying to do is to exclude certain subjects from the inquiry, which it can't do, and the attempts to do so indicate a desire for certain things to be hidden from Congress and the American People.
 
So... the White House says they will not cooperate until there is a vote on impeachment, just so they can say that there was a vote for impeachment without a proper investigation. Just how dumb is Trump and his lackeys?

White House, State Department, and other staff will be asked to testify, if they refuse they will receive a subpoena. If Trump tells them they are not allowed, he will then be openly committing obstruction and there will be no need for an investigation. End of story.

It doesn't take a whole lot of intelligence to see the road map here.

That's probably why you're lost.

Pelosi didn't put it to a vote in the House, trying to protect her moderate dems. Nobody really knows whether she has the votes on her own to
get the impeachment.

You do understand that not one subpoena has been served during this makeshift inquiry...don't you? Lot of threatening letters but no subpoenas.
If she subpoenas right now, and it is not obeyed, they can tie it up in the courts for months.

Her moderates have already told her the case must be narrow. They can't be jumping all over the board. They will not support her on a wild goose
chase. If they have something viable to impeach on, then they will go along. If it is something that will be shot down in the Senate, they won't

The Dems cannot let this impeachment go into 2020. They cannot be seen as disenfranchising half the Country. Their nominee would be toast, out of
spite.

The Donald is running out their clock. They need to hold a vote very quickly and they need something that has a chance of getting pass the Senate.

If she doesn't schedule a vote real soon...it only means she doesn't have the votes to get it passed..


She didn't put it to a vote... because the inquiry isn't over yet. WTF is so hard for you people to understand?

It's a simple step by step process that has been outlined a few times here now. I doubt some of you people are smart enough to follow the steps to make Kool-aid if you ******* aren't trolling and really don't get it.

Pelosi HAS THE VOTES TO PASS AN IMPEACHMENT... but it does no ******* good to do so without properly drawing up an article or articles with the supporting evidence. to send to the Senate to hold hearings on.

I'm going to bed. You people are too dense to discuss this with.

In every prior impeachment...A vote was held of the entire house to begin an "Impeachment Inquiry." That gives the Minority Party the right to
subpoena their own witnesses for debate on the floor. The vote sets the rules of the Inquiry.

There is no requirement for any of this. There is no precedent for "witnesses for debate on the floor." An inquiry does not have preset "rules" that limit the inquiry. The orange whore will get his due at trial if Articles of Impeachment are voted forward by the House, but how can these Articles be drafted until a full investigation is completed? Tell him to get his shit together and respond properly to Congress so that it can fulfill its oversight function. He has consistently been trying to hide his doings throughout his time in office, so he has created suspicion. He must respond to Congress.
Look you ******* LUNATIC until Congress votes some sort of Impeachment vote the President has executive Authority and does not have to respond to their idiotic yapping.
 
That's probably why you're lost.

Pelosi didn't put it to a vote in the House, trying to protect her moderate dems. Nobody really knows whether she has the votes on her own to
get the impeachment.

You do understand that not one subpoena has been served during this makeshift inquiry...don't you? Lot of threatening letters but no subpoenas.
If she subpoenas right now, and it is not obeyed, they can tie it up in the courts for months.

Her moderates have already told her the case must be narrow. They can't be jumping all over the board. They will not support her on a wild goose
chase. If they have something viable to impeach on, then they will go along. If it is something that will be shot down in the Senate, they won't

The Dems cannot let this impeachment go into 2020. They cannot be seen as disenfranchising half the Country. Their nominee would be toast, out of
spite.

The Donald is running out their clock. They need to hold a vote very quickly and they need something that has a chance of getting pass the Senate.

If she doesn't schedule a vote real soon...it only means she doesn't have the votes to get it passed..


She didn't put it to a vote... because the inquiry isn't over yet. WTF is so hard for you people to understand?

It's a simple step by step process that has been outlined a few times here now. I doubt some of you people are smart enough to follow the steps to make Kool-aid if you ******* aren't trolling and really don't get it.

Pelosi HAS THE VOTES TO PASS AN IMPEACHMENT... but it does no ******* good to do so without properly drawing up an article or articles with the supporting evidence. to send to the Senate to hold hearings on.

I'm going to bed. You people are too dense to discuss this with.

In every prior impeachment...A vote was held of the entire house to begin an "Impeachment Inquiry." That gives the Minority Party the right to
subpoena their own witnesses for debate on the floor. The vote sets the rules of the Inquiry.

There is no requirement for any of this. There is no precedent for "witnesses for debate on the floor." An inquiry does not have preset "rules" that limit the inquiry. The orange whore will get his due at trial if Articles of Impeachment are voted forward by the House, but how can these Articles be drafted until a full investigation is completed? Tell him to get his shit together and respond properly to Congress so that it can fulfill its oversight function. He has consistently been trying to hide his doings throughout his time in office, so he has created suspicion. He must respond to Congress.
Old Dysentery is spewing crap again...

Hold the damn vote and allow the Republicans the same power that you Democrats are wielding. You wont because you do not want to afford Trump the ability to defend himself under the law... The only reason to not vote for the inquiry is to keep republicans from being able to call witnesses and depose people.. Apart from your control of them..

The time to mount a defense, call witnesses, and depose people comes much later in the process. Right now, all subpoenas must be complied with, under the law. The trump administration has failed to comply with the law. What the trump administration is trying to do is to exclude certain subjects from the inquiry, which it can't do, and the attempts to do so indicate a desire for certain things to be hidden from Congress and the American People.
The law does NOT require the President to give up Executive Privilege for no reason. Otherwise Congress could tie up a President with pointless investigations and committee demands ignoring the fact he does not have to respond to them.
 
So... the White House says they will not cooperate until there is a vote on impeachment, just so they can say that there was a vote for impeachment without a proper investigation. Just how dumb is Trump and his lackeys?

White House, State Department, and other staff will be asked to testify, if they refuse they will receive a subpoena. If Trump tells them they are not allowed, he will then be openly committing obstruction and there will be no need for an investigation. End of story.

It doesn't take a whole lot of intelligence to see the road map here.

That's probably why you're lost.

Pelosi didn't put it to a vote in the House, trying to protect her moderate dems. Nobody really knows whether she has the votes on her own to
get the impeachment.

You do understand that not one subpoena has been served during this makeshift inquiry...don't you? Lot of threatening letters but no subpoenas.
If she subpoenas right now, and it is not obeyed, they can tie it up in the courts for months.

Her moderates have already told her the case must be narrow. They can't be jumping all over the board. They will not support her on a wild goose
chase. If they have something viable to impeach on, then they will go along. If it is something that will be shot down in the Senate, they won't

The Dems cannot let this impeachment go into 2020. They cannot be seen as disenfranchising half the Country. Their nominee would be toast, out of
spite.

The Donald is running out their clock. They need to hold a vote very quickly and they need something that has a chance of getting pass the Senate.

If she doesn't schedule a vote real soon...it only means she doesn't have the votes to get it passed..


She didn't put it to a vote... because the inquiry isn't over yet. WTF is so hard for you people to understand?

It's a simple step by step process that has been outlined a few times here now. I doubt some of you people are smart enough to follow the steps to make Kool-aid if you ******* aren't trolling and really don't get it.

Pelosi HAS THE VOTES TO PASS AN IMPEACHMENT... but it does no ******* good to do so without properly drawing up an article or articles with the supporting evidence. to send to the Senate to hold hearings on.

I'm going to bed. You people are too dense to discuss this with.

In every prior impeachment...A vote was held of the entire house to begin an "Impeachment Inquiry." That gives the Minority Party the right to
subpoena their own witnesses for debate on the floor. The vote sets the rules of the Inquiry.
And this is why the Democrats won't hold such a vote - they want to be able to to what they want w/ the GOP being unable to do anything about it.
 
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Until there is a vote to open an impeachment hearing even the subpoenas aren't valid.

Why don't democrats want to vote?

Because they want to hide the identities of those voting for impeachment so they don't suffer the wrath of the voters. Despite all the fake polls the democrats are aware that the voters are livid over this. It is too close to the election to have impeachment nonsense. Democrats want to take the vote away this time and undo an election they didn't like from last time.
 
Until there is a vote to open an impeachment hearing even the subpoenas aren't valid.

Why don't democrats want to vote?

Because they want to hide the identities of those voting for impeachment so they don't suffer the wrath of the voters. Despite all the fake polls the democrats are aware that the voters are livid over this. It is too close to the election to have impeachment nonsense. Democrats want to take the vote away this time and undo an election they didn't like from last time.

The subpoenas are valid. House standing committees have subpoena power that doesn't require any vote.

Congressional Subpoena Power and Executive Privilege: The Coming Showdown Between the Branches

Congress has the duty to oversee the functioning of the executive branch.

I don't know which voters are "livid over this," but it doesn't matter.
 
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