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how does that work? Shouldn’t God have some say in the matter?
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how does that work? Shouldn’t God have some say in the matter?
how does that work? Shouldn’t God have some say in the matter?
Well my mind is officially in the gutter!how does that work? Shouldn’t God have some say in the matter?
Care to share with the class what the fruck "DP doctrine" might be? Got a link or anything, you know, revealing like that? Or are we just supposed to hear the voices in your head?
Where I come from DP means Double Play, a pitcher's best friend.
Well my mind is officially in the gutter!how does that work? Shouldn’t God have some say in the matter?
Care to share with the class what the fruck "DP doctrine" might be? Got a link or anything, you know, revealing like that? Or are we just supposed to hear the voices in your head?
Where I come from DP means Double Play, a pitcher's best friend.
Death.
Penalty.
"DP"
When the Pope speaks "ex cathedra" (formally, from the Chair of Peter) on matter of "faith and/or morals," he is believed by believing Catholics to be infallible. Cannot err.
He says that under no circumstances is the Death Penalty morally acceptable.
Ex cathedra statements are extremely rare. There has been exactly ONE since the doctrine was announced more than a hundred years ago.
In all cases, the Catholic Church has a scriptural basis for its teachings. It may only be a word or two or a hint in some obscure passage, but the doctrine is always based on Scripture.
Which is why this is so significant. There is NOTHING in the Bible that even hints that execution is morally untenable. Indeed, the late J.C. willfully submitted to the death penalty as the ultimate redemptive act of his life. Was he not aware that the death penalty was verboten?
The Pope's startling declaration only makes sense if one DOES NOT BELIEVE IN THE AFTERLIFE. Going by the Church's own rules, if I were convicted of a capital crime and sentenced to be executed, I could go to confession, make a good act of contrition, be good until my execution date, and live in eternal bliss, in the presence of God forever. So for me - because I believe the Church's teachings - the Death Penalty would be manifestly a Good Thing.
To believing Christians, DEATH is not the ultimate evil.
Doesn't the Pope know that?
how does that work? Shouldn’t God have some say in the matter?
There is no "god" as perceived by theists; the Pope is at liberty to change doctrine and dogma as he sees fit.how does that work? Shouldn’t God have some say in the matter?
So you guys all ignore the news and we’re unaware that the pope changed doctrine on the death penalty
The Pope cannot change a teaching that has been the same for 2000 years. We need a new Pope.
Death.
Penalty.
"DP"
When the Pope speaks "ex cathedra" (formally, from the Chair of Peter) on matter of "faith and/or morals," he is believed by believing Catholics to be infallible. Cannot err.
He says that under no circumstances is the Death Penalty morally acceptable.
Ex cathedra statements are extremely rare. There has been exactly ONE since the doctrine was announced more than a hundred years ago.
In all cases, the Catholic Church has a scriptural basis for its teachings. It may only be a word or two or a hint in some obscure passage, but the doctrine is always based on Scripture.
Which is why this is so significant. There is NOTHING in the Bible that even hints that execution is morally untenable. Indeed, the late J.C. willfully submitted to the death penalty as the ultimate redemptive act of his life. Was he not aware that the death penalty was verboten?
The Pope's startling declaration only makes sense if one DOES NOT BELIEVE IN THE AFTERLIFE. Going by the Church's own rules, if I were convicted of a capital crime and sentenced to be executed, I could go to confession, make a good act of contrition, be good until my execution date, and live in eternal bliss, in the presence of God forever. So for me - because I believe the Church's teachings - the Death Penalty would be manifestly a Good Thing.
To believing Christians, DEATH is not the ultimate evil.
Doesn't the Pope know that?