POLL: Let's try to have a serious, interesting, informative conversation about Trump

Does Trump's character and history really matter to you?

  • 1. No. I think America has reached a point where I'm willing to overlook both things.

    Votes: 2 5.0%
  • 2. The stories of his character and history are lies spread about those who hate him.

    Votes: 14 35.0%
  • 3. Other (please comment)

    Votes: 24 60.0%

  • Total voters
    40
Okay, so I'll pledge to keep any criticism or any degree of attacks out of this conversation. Hopefully you will too, but we'll see how it goes.

Full Disclosure: I've been able to adjust my relationships with my Trump-voting friends and family to where we either don't discuss politics, or we just keep our political conversations at a point where we're agreeing on something. That's it. Those relationships are too important to us to risk. Period.

So I'm going to ask you guys the question I would ask them if I were willing to risk those relationships. It's at the heart of my concerns about MAGA, and I know it's a question often asked by people across the political spectrum who remain horrified about what's happening. But clearly, his base (NOT everyone who voted for him, but his BASE), clearly believe America is in serious danger and he is the one person who can fix this.

Personally, while I have several general issue agreements with MAGA (see link at bottom here), I also believe (as do many across the political spectrum) that getting what I may want politically is not worth selling my soul to anyone (and that's what I think it is), let alone a person of such deeply poor moral character and obvious mental instability. I/we also strongly disagree with this simplistic, heavy, ham-handed approach, refusal to collaborate/innovate, and obvious indications of European-style autocratic authoritarianism. That's just my personal opinion.

Please vote/comment, and no attacks are on the way in response. Thanks in advance.

Where does Mac1958 actually stand on the issues?
Trump is a truly flawed leader, his only use to me is his ability to correct our biggest problem, the need to rid our society of white liberals...which begs the question, why do you not approach that subject with the same obsession as you do trump as it poses our biggest problem and has necessitated the need for such a flawed man and leader as trump?
 
Another perfect example of what I have been saying.

Can't even give a whiff of legitimizing the criticism by acknowledging any of it.

To do so would demonstrate weakness and imperfection And humility. In their minds.

And these things are poison, to a narcissist.
This is why I've given up on them here.

You can say that you like pizza, and they'll SAY that you said that you HATE pizza.

There is just no way to communicate with that. It's pointless.
 
Totally clueless

What is "liberal" about President Trump's policies ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Even if the answer was nothing, that wouldn't change the fact that he is acting like a far right nutter for personal benefit.

No, the metropolitan atheist liberal one man abortion generating machine is not the person you think he is.
 
Even if the answer was nothing, that wouldn't change the fact that he is acting like a far right nutter for personal benefit.

No, the metropolitan atheist liberal one man abortion generating machine is not the person you think he is.
Still no receipt we know you hate him too fking funny
 
Even if the answer was nothing, that wouldn't change the fact that he is acting like a far right nutter for personal benefit.

No, the metropolitan atheist liberal one man abortion generating machine is not the person you think he is.
ALL politicians exagerate their position to remain "electable" sad but true.
 
If anyone did 1/10th of what Trump did, they would have been in prison, a long time ago.
Trump's cult doesn't care.
It's a cult.
Just like Charlie Manson and Jim Jones, but dumber.
I suggest that you expand your news viewing to include Newsmax. Many mainstream news organizations,like MSNBC, are no longer journalists. They are just indoctinators to the Democrat Party. Many of the things that they have convinced you that Trump is guilty of are just plain lies.
 
I suggest that you expand your news viewing to include Newsmax. Many mainstream news organizations,like MSNBC, are no longer journalists. They are just indoctinators to the Democrat Party. Many of the things that they have convinced you that Trump is guilty of are just plain lies.
You do know that Newsmax is a full on right wing network, right? More so than even Fox?

Do you mean people should watch it to balance out MSNBC?
 
ALL politicians exagerate their position to remain "electable" sad but true.
Yes the equivacation begins.

And all guys talk that way in the locker room.

And all guys commit casual sexual assault once in a while.

And all good businessmen break the law.

And lots of people challenge election results.

And all powerful men commit adultery.

See? trump is actually very normal.🙄
 
You do know that Newsmax is a full on right wing network, right? More so than even Fox?

Do you mean people should watch it to balance out MSNBC?
You know cnn and msnbc are far demofks. Again, you hate opposition news
 
I'm a democrat and I agree, now tell ^that^ to white liberals and lets see how many agree.
I have. They have all agreed.

Trump doesn't care about abortion. Or trannies. He tried to be a popular democrat and failed due to his stupidity and cruelty. He found more success among the right wing, where these things are features.

So here we are.
 
Yes the equivacation begins.

And all guys talk that way in the locker room.

And all guys commit casual sexual assault once in a while.

And all good businessmen break the law.

And lots of people challenge election results.

And all powerful men commit adultery.

See? trump is actually very normal.🙄
Yo Dingle Berry , didn't your cackle queen pretend to support the Palestinians all the while she was re arming Netanyahu ?!?!?!?!?
 

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