POLL: Let's try to have a serious, interesting, informative conversation about Trump

[Foxfyre]

I'll take that as a (2), thanks.

And are are 100% wrong when you do that unless you have edited Option 2.

 

[Nostra]

Yes. I began that paragraph with "personally..." and ended it with "That's just my personal opinion". Full disclosure.

Then I asked for yours.

You're not required to give it. You're welcome.

You began by saying you wouldn’t insult, then went on a massive insult diatribe.

Troll thread.

 

[Nostra]

Got it. I assume you voted (2) then, if you voted? I don't need the whole speech.

You asked for opinions, then when you get one you say you don’t need it.

Troll thread.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Okay, so I'll pledge to keep any criticism or any degree of attacks out of this conversation. Hopefully you will too, but we'll see how it goes.

Full Disclosure: I've been able to adjust my relationships with my Trump-voting friends and family to where we either don't discuss politics, or we just keep our political conversations at a point where we're agreeing on something. That's it. Those relationships are too important to us to risk. Period.

So I'm going to ask you guys the question I would ask them if I were willing to risk those relationships. It's at the heart of my concerns about MAGA, and I know it's a question often asked by people across the political spectrum who remain horrified about what's happening. But clearly, his base (NOT everyone who voted for him, but his BASE), clearly believe America is in serious danger and he is the one person who can fix this.

Personally, while I have several general issue agreements with MAGA (see link at bottom here), I also believe (as do many across the political spectrum) that getting what I may want politically is not worth selling my soul to anyone (and that's what I think it is), let alone a person of such deeply poor moral character and obvious mental instability. I/we also strongly disagree with this simplistic, heavy, ham-handed approach, refusal to collaborate/innovate, and obvious indications of European-style autocratic authoritarianism. That's just my personal opinion.

Please vote/comment, and no attacks are on the way in response. Thanks in advance.

Where does Mac1958 actually stand on the issues?

I don't cut friends or family off for being Trump voters. Ever.

 

[Nostra]

I asked a clear question. You're not required to answer it. You're welcome.

It’s hilarious you think you need to tell people they aren’t required to answer your troll poll.

 

[eagle1462010]

To make this as clear as I can: This thread is about Donald J. Trump's character, and the way it has been characterized. I have seen many Trump supporters say that the negative reports of his character are lies. So I'm asking, again, are you willing to put up with the reported character flaws, or do you believe the reported character flaws are not true?

This is not about Kamala Harris, or Joe Biden, or Hunter Biden, or Burisma or George Soros or Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton or Mickey Mouse.

Please let me know if you need me to simplify this further.

Which is normal for you. Not about the left is your cup of tea. Why is that troll?

I agree with Trump policies.

I detest the lefts policies.

I simply don't care about the feelings of TDS people like you.

 

[eagle1462010]

You asked for opinions, then when you get one you say you don’t need it.

Troll thread.

All his threads are trolling

Nothing new.

 

[kyzr]

You asked for opinions, then when you get one you say you don’t need it.

Troll thread.

Yep, Trump's character and history are what they are. (His policies are what matters more.)
Most of us do not pigeon-hole them into just two "binary" spots, all lies, or all true but I don't care.

You can do this same "poll" on Joe Biden with crimes and senility, but with "does the deep state and MSM cover up for him?".

 

[Cellblock2429]

"dick lips?" You imagine Trump sucking your dick?

/——/ d0gbreath has lip
envy.

 

[BULLDOG]

Come on.

Byrd: Clinton guilty, but should stay? - UPI Archives

The comments of Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va., came in an interview taped Saturday and broadcast today on ABC's ''This Week.'' Two weeks ago, Byrd had offered a motion to dismiss the case against Clinton.

www.upi.com

Clinton had a consensual affair with an intern. Trump had an insurrection. Hardly the same.

 

[pknopp]

Clinton had a consensual affair with an intern. Trump had an insurrection. Hardly the same.

Clinton committed perjury while a sitting president. It's why he lost his law license.

As you can read, Byrd said it was an impeachable offense.

 

[BULLDOG]

Clinton committed perjury while a sitting president. It's why he lost his law license.

As you can read, Byrd said it was an impeachable offense.

And we know trump has never lied, right?

 

[pknopp]

And we know trump has never lied, right?

Quit with the lame replies. Read the replies in context. I was in no way defending anything Trump has ever done.

 

[kyzr]

Clinton had a consensual affair with an intern. Trump had an insurrection. Hardly the same.

Maybe you haven't heard yet, but Nancy Pelosi fessed-up to the "insurrection" by not approving the National Guard as requested by Trump and Capitol Police Chief Sund days before J6.

MSN

Nancy Pelosi says ‘I take responsibility’ for not having National Guard at the Capitol on Jan. 6 in video shot by her own daughter​

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Maybe you haven't heard yet, but Nancy Pelosi fessed-up to the "insurrection" by not approving the National Guard as requested by Trump and Capitol Police Chief Sund days before J6.

MSN

Nancy Pelosi says ‘I take responsibility’ for not having National Guard at the Capitol on Jan. 6 in video shot by her own daughter​

She is saying she should have know Trump's violent cultists would be violent.

And you're so proud of that.

 

[kyzr]

She is saying she should have know Trump's violent cultists would be violent.
And you're so proud of that.

She did not say that. She said she should have been more prepared and takes responsibility for not having the NG there as requested by Trump and Capitol Police Chief Sund before J6.

Ex-Capitol Police Chief Says Requests For National Guard Denied 6 Times In Riots

Steven Sund contradicts reports that help was not requested, saying security officials at the House and Senate rebuffed calls for assistance ahead of and during the attack on the Capitol.

www.npr.org

Ex-Capitol Police Chief Says Requests For National Guard Denied 6 Times In Riots​

"The former chief of U.S. Capitol Police says security officials at the House and Senate rebuffed his early requests to call in the National Guard ahead of a demonstration in support of President Trump that turned into a deadly attack on Congress."

If Pelosi approved the NG there would have been no J6 riot.

 

[pknopp]

She did not say that. She said she should have been more prepared and takes responsibility for not having the NG there as requested by Trump and Capitol Police Chief Sund before J6.

Ex-Capitol Police Chief Says Requests For National Guard Denied 6 Times In Riots

Steven Sund contradicts reports that help was not requested, saying security officials at the House and Senate rebuffed calls for assistance ahead of and during the attack on the Capitol.

www.npr.org

Ex-Capitol Police Chief Says Requests For National Guard Denied 6 Times In Riots​

"The former chief of U.S. Capitol Police says security officials at the House and Senate rebuffed his early requests to call in the National Guard ahead of a demonstration in support of President Trump that turned into a deadly attack on Congress."

If Pelosi approved the NG there would have been no J6 riot.

Waaaaaaaa.......Nancy made us do it!!! Waaaaaaa.

 

[Nostra]

Waaaaaaaa.......Nancy made us do it!!! Waaaaaaa.

It was her call, Simp.

She declined the NG.

 

[blackhawk]

I don't believe Trump is any worse than anyone else in politics few if any are morally upstanding or highly ethical how much their flaws concern one depends on if they are a member of the party you support.

 

[Billiejeens]

If anyone did 1/10th of what Trump did, they would have been in prison, a long time ago.
Trump's cult doesn't care.
It's a cult.
Just like Charlie Manson and Jim Jones, but dumber.

You are insane.

You can thank your echo chamber Cult.