Police Body Camera Footage Proves George Floyd Was Not "Murdered"

[Rigby5]

Actually "We" have the body cam that shows what really went down not just some media and BLM bullshit emotional manipulation. "We" also have the tox report and floyds criminal record of violence and drug abuse........"We" all aren't as stupid as the racist terrorist blm and prosecution hope people are....

His criminal record doesn't matter. If you want to bring that in, let's also bring in the other 18 times Chauvin violated people's civil rights.

The Tox Screen doesn't matter, because it takes HOURS to die of a drug overdose. he was dead in minutes after encounter Chauvin.

Your Boy is going down. Deal with it.

you have no idea how long those drugs were in his system. dude the clerk called it in as Floyd be under the influence. Just curious, do you know what he took and how much? The coroner claimed he had three times the lethal amount of fentanyl. We know that. what do you know different?

A large person who is used to drugs is NOT going to die from 10 times the normal lethal amount.
You don't know anything about how drugs work.
Everyone has testified he did NOT die from the drugs.

 

[Rigby5]

Seriously? George Floyd was using counterfeit money. When he was called on it by the store he COULD have returned the cigarettes he bought and that would have been the end of it! HE made the choice not to do so even as the store employees asked him to not once but twice! That action resulted in the store calling the Police. That's on nobody BUT George Floyd!

He and his friend also could have driven off before the cops got there... but they didn't. What they should or should not have done is kind of pointless.

The question is, did Chauvin use deadly force that caused his death. The coroner says he did. Witnesses say he did. His own bosses say he did.

He's toast.

The fact that Floyd and friend sat there in the car outside of the food mart only goes to show what IDIOTS both he and his friend are!

The autopsy is the thing that tells me Chauvin didn't use "deadly force"...he's guilty of failing to recognize that Floyd was OD'ing on drugs...drugs that Floyd the idiot most likely ingested to keep them from being found by the Police! That's an outcome that Floyd the idiot could have avoided if he HAD left after passing the counterfeit bill or HAD told the Police that he had taken a large amount of drugs and was having difficulty breathing because of it!

The autopsy said asphyxiation, and NOT drugs.

You need to look up asphyxiation---you apparently don't understand the MEANING.

It means lack of oxygen for the body---not what caused the lack of oxygen.

Drugs suppress the respiratory system (or circulatory system) so ergo-----body lacks oxygen while the one suffering from the drugs is STILL getting air across the vocal cords allowing them to talk but not able to get their lungs to process oxygen with the heart then stopping and the brain dying aka death. The doctor is actually saying Floyd die of lung issues--while the ME is saying the heart. Which is why most intelligent ME's chose better words for autopsies to avoid legal issues and why this doctor is being so precise with his dx....

Wrong.
The autopsies were VERY specific in saying the death was due to pressure on the throat.
{...
An autopsy carried out by Dr. Andrew Baker, the Hennepin County Medical Examiner, in June last year concluded Floyd's death was a homicide.
...
According to the report, Floyd, ..., died of "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression."
...

Meanwhile, an independent autopsy carried out by experts hired by Floyd's family concluded the 46-year-old died of "asphyxiation from sustained pressure."

Dr. Michael Baden, one of the experts part of the independent team, concluded "there is no other health issue that could cause or contribute to the death."

...}

 

[Rigby5]

Well, well, so now we find out that the footage that shows the best view of where Chauvin's knee was shows that his knee was not on Floyd's neck but was on his shoulder blade. Under cross-examination, Minneapolis Police Chief Medaria Arradondo, who has been brazenly biased against Chauvin, even admitted that Kueng's bodycam footage shows that Chauvin's knee was on Floyd's shoulder, not on his neck. This, of course, explains why the autopsy found no trace of bruising on the neck.

[Defense attorney] Nelson played for Arradondo bystander video from the crime scene, which showed Chauvin's knee on Floyd's body, and then played a second video from a different angle in the same moments before and while Floyd was being placed on a gurney.

The defense attorney then showed both camera views simultaneously and asked: "From the perspective of [bystander] Ms. [Darnella] Frazier’s camera, it would appear that Officer Chauvin’s knee is on the neck of Mr. Floyd."

Arradondo said yes. Then, Nelson referenced the second video, showing the officer's body camera footage, and asked: "Would you agree that from the perspective of Officer Kueng's body camera that it appears that Officer Chauvin’s knee was more on Mr. Floyd’s shoulder blade?"

"Yes," Arradondo conceded. ( Chauvin trial: Minneapolis police chief testifies, ER doc theorizes that lack of oxygen stopped Floyd's heart | Fox News)

We also found out that two of the drugs that Floyd took shortly before the incident (fentanyl and methamphetamine) are known for making breathing more difficult.

That is ridiculous.
Everyone say Chauvins knee and shin directly on Floyd's throat.

And you can see that there is no pressure on Chauvin's toes, so then all of Chauvin's weight in on Floyd's throat.

 

[Rigby5]

We also found out that two of the drugs that Floyd took shortly before the incident (fentanyl and methamphetamine) are known for making breathing more difficult.

Fentanyl yes, methamphetamine no.
In fact, they would cancel each other out, and leave no effect.

 

[Rigby5]

Actually "We" have the body cam that shows what really went down not just some media and BLM bullshit emotional manipulation. "We" also have the tox report and floyds criminal record of violence and drug abuse........"We" all aren't as stupid as the racist terrorist blm and prosecution hope people are....

His criminal record doesn't matter. If you want to bring that in, let's also bring in the other 18 times Chauvin violated people's civil rights.

The Tox Screen doesn't matter, because it takes HOURS to die of a drug overdose. he was dead in minutes after encounter Chauvin.

Your Boy is going down. Deal with it.

Your tantrum is getting funny asshole. Now the toxicology doesn’t matter. Yeah it does idiot. That’s why Chauvin doesn’t go down. Deal with it.

No the toxicology does not matter because the people performing the autopsies said it did not matter and was not the cause of death. They said the cause of death was pressure on the throat,

 

[jc456]

A large person who is used to drugs is NOT going to die from 10 times the normal lethal amount.
You don't know anything about how drugs work.
Everyone has testified he did NOT die from the drugs

You make me laugh. You know every witness is a prosecution witness? You know how this works? Anyone claim what caused the cardiac arrest?

 

[jc456]

Actually "We" have the body cam that shows what really went down not just some media and BLM bullshit emotional manipulation. "We" also have the tox report and floyds criminal record of violence and drug abuse........"We" all aren't as stupid as the racist terrorist blm and prosecution hope people are....

His criminal record doesn't matter. If you want to bring that in, let's also bring in the other 18 times Chauvin violated people's civil rights.

The Tox Screen doesn't matter, because it takes HOURS to die of a drug overdose. he was dead in minutes after encounter Chauvin.

Your Boy is going down. Deal with it.

Your tantrum is getting funny asshole. Now the toxicology doesn’t matter. Yeah it does idiot. That’s why Chauvin doesn’t go down. Deal with it.

No the toxicology does not matter because the people performing the autopsies said it did not matter and was not the cause of death. They said the cause of death was pressure on the throat,

Did not

 

[Oldestyle]

Actually "We" have the body cam that shows what really went down not just some media and BLM bullshit emotional manipulation. "We" also have the tox report and floyds criminal record of violence and drug abuse........"We" all aren't as stupid as the racist terrorist blm and prosecution hope people are....

His criminal record doesn't matter. If you want to bring that in, let's also bring in the other 18 times Chauvin violated people's civil rights.

The Tox Screen doesn't matter, because it takes HOURS to die of a drug overdose. he was dead in minutes after encounter Chauvin.

Your Boy is going down. Deal with it.

chauvin violated other 18 peoples civil rights based on what? Criminals whinning like Floyd that the cops were picking on them by arresting their criminal asses?

It does not take hours to die of drug overdose--what an ignorant claim.

An intravenous injection can be very quick, but swallowing pills can take hour.
Its intentional.

That's why junkies like Floyd crush up pills and snort them. You don't know very much about drugs...do you?

 

[jc456]

Actually "We" have the body cam that shows what really went down not just some media and BLM bullshit emotional manipulation. "We" also have the tox report and floyds criminal record of violence and drug abuse........"We" all aren't as stupid as the racist terrorist blm and prosecution hope people are....

His criminal record doesn't matter. If you want to bring that in, let's also bring in the other 18 times Chauvin violated people's civil rights.

The Tox Screen doesn't matter, because it takes HOURS to die of a drug overdose. he was dead in minutes after encounter Chauvin.

Your Boy is going down. Deal with it.

chauvin violated other 18 peoples civil rights based on what? Criminals whinning like Floyd that the cops were picking on them by arresting their criminal asses?

It does not take hours to die of drug overdose--what an ignorant claim.

An intravenous injection can be very quick, but swallowing pills can take hour.
Its intentional.

That's why junkies like Floyd crush up pills and snort them. You don't know very much about drugs...do you?

Rugby thinks Floyd is super man

 

[Oldestyle]

Where it may take a few minutes for someone who just took heroin to feel the effects of an overdose, someone who uses fentanyl will feel it within seconds.

I have changed my mind about the George Floyd case, after watching several hours of Derek Chauvin's trial, and especially after watching the previously unreleased police body-camera footage of the incident.

I do not believe that Chauvin committed second-degree murder. I think he committed manslaughter. I would need several pages to fully explain the reasons for my view. Here are a few points that capture the main reasons:

* Floyd could have avoided being pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply obeyed the police officers' repeated request to get into the back of the police car.

* The officers did not pin Floyd on the ground until after he strongly resisted being put into the police car and after he then pushed his way out of the car and came out the other side of the car. Only at that point did the officers pin him on the ground.

* Floyd's claim that he was afraid to get into confined spaces and therefore afraid to get into the back of the police car seems extremely doubtful, given the fact that Floyd had just spent several minutes in the front of a small car with the windows rolled up. The body camera footage shows that the front of the car that Floyd was taken from was virtually identical in size to the back of the police car.

* The officers may have doubted Floyd's claim that he could not breathe because he started making this claim long before he was pinned on the ground and at a time when he clearly could breathe, as the officers pointed out to him.

* Floyd's autopsy report proves that he was heavily under the influence of drugs during the incident. This could explain his irrational behavior.

* Floyd deserves most of the blame for the incident. Chauvin should not have put his knee on Floyd's neck. He should have eased up on Floyd's neck after Floyd stopped moving, and he should have checked Floyd's vital signs after he stopped moving. But, again, Floyd never would have been pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply gotten into the back of the police car as he was repeatedly instructed to do.

And, just for the record, George Floyd was neither a "gentle person" nor "a good father"; he was a violent thug with a long rap sheet:

Two Sides To Every Story: George Floyd And Derek Chauvin – Stateline Network EXTRA

Blaming the victim for his own murder? People with mental issues should be blamed also for police brutality? The cop used unnecessary force. You would not do this to a dog. The cops are acting like trial, jury, and executioner. The cop puts his hand in his pocket thus pushing down on his knee to put more pressure on George's neck. Everyone who saw this saw a live murder. period. No matter who he was George deserved his day in court and not on the ground getting the life choked out of him. Drugs and medical conditions did not kill him, the cop did.

If the dog was rabid you wouldnt try to be nice to it, you would put it down. George Floyd had 5 opportunities to peacefully be put in a squad car (where he kept saying "i cant breathe") and when Floyd got out of the car again, he was restrained and died of a drug overdose.

Wrong.
We don't know if or what he said in the squad car.
When 3 cops piled on top of him, then everyone heard him say he could not breath.
Wonder why?

And no, the autopsy said he did NOT die from a drug overdose.

I have changed my mind about the George Floyd case, after watching several hours of Derek Chauvin's trial, and especially after watching the previously unreleased police body-camera footage of the incident.

I do not believe that Chauvin committed second-degree murder. I think he committed manslaughter. I would need several pages to fully explain the reasons for my view. Here are a few points that capture the main reasons:

* Floyd could have avoided being pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply obeyed the police officers' repeated request to get into the back of the police car.

* The officers did not pin Floyd on the ground until after he strongly resisted being put into the police car and after he then pushed his way out of the car and came out the other side of the car. Only at that point did the officers pin him on the ground.

* Floyd's claim that he was afraid to get into confined spaces and therefore afraid to get into the back of the police car seems extremely doubtful, given the fact that Floyd had just spent several minutes in the front of a small car with the windows rolled up. The body camera footage shows that the front of the car that Floyd was taken from was virtually identical in size to the back of the police car.

* The officers may have doubted Floyd's claim that he could not breathe because he started making this claim long before he was pinned on the ground and at a time when he clearly could breathe, as the officers pointed out to him.

* Floyd's autopsy report proves that he was heavily under the influence of drugs during the incident. This could explain his irrational behavior.

* Floyd deserves most of the blame for the incident. Chauvin should not have put his knee on Floyd's neck. He should have eased up on Floyd's neck after Floyd stopped moving, and he should have checked Floyd's vital signs after he stopped moving. But, again, Floyd never would have been pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply gotten into the back of the police car as he was repeatedly instructed to do.

And, just for the record, George Floyd was neither a "gentle person" nor "a good father"; he was a violent thug with a long rap sheet:

Two Sides To Every Story: George Floyd And Derek Chauvin – Stateline Network EXTRA

Blaming the victim for his own murder? People with mental issues should be blamed also for police brutality? The cop used unnecessary force. You would not do this to a dog. The cops are acting like trial, jury, and executioner. The cop puts his hand in his pocket thus pushing down on his knee to put more pressure on George's neck. Everyone who saw this saw a live murder. period. No matter who he was George deserved his day in court and not on the ground getting the life choked out of him. Drugs and medical conditions did not kill him, the cop did.

If the dog was rabid you wouldnt try to be nice to it, you would put it down. George Floyd had 5 opportunities to peacefully be put in a squad car (where he kept saying "i cant breathe") and when Floyd got out of the car again, he was restrained and died of a drug overdose.

We can’t verify whether drugs or heart issues contributed to Floyd’s death, but we can verify that three medical examiners ruled his death a homicide. What we can verify is that autopsies, including the official one conducted by Hennepin County, showed Floyd was killed because Chauvin kept pressure on Floyd’s neck that prevented him from breathing, and the death was ruled a homicide

New court docs say George Floyd had "fatal level" of fentanyl in his system (msn.com)

Handwritten notes of a law enforcement interview with Dr. Andrew Baker, the Hennepin County Medical Examiner, say Floyd had 11 ng/mL of fentanyl in his system.
"If he were found dead at home alone and no other apparent causes, this could be acceptable to call an OD. Deaths have been certified with levels of 3," Baker told investigators.

Do you know what "FATAL" means?

A fatal drug level for an average person does not mean it would kill a large person, and it is clear from the autopsy that drugs were not the cause of death.

Delusional claim----floyd over dosed on the multiple drugs that he had in his system.

There was no damage or bruising to floyds neck/back area so hence we all know that his circulation and breathing were NOT cut off by the cops holding him down.

Holding him down by a knee on his neck.?LOL Not on his shoulder like some moron tried to say. The neck is positioned between the shoulder and he died. Moron

He's got one knee on Floyd's neck and the other on his back. So tell me how you know he's putting a lot of weight on the knee on Floyd's neck? Is it 50/50? Is it 60% on his back and 40% on his neck. The autopsy reports showed Floyd didn't have damage to his neck. Wouldn't there be bruising if Chauvin had all of his weight on Floyd's neck? Or would a more plausible scenario be that although he was kneeling on Floyd's neck, most of his weight was on his other knee? That would explain a lot.

 

[Oldestyle]

Well, well, so now we find out that the footage that shows the best view of where Chauvin's knee was shows that his knee was not on Floyd's neck but was on his shoulder blade. Under cross-examination, Minneapolis Police Chief Medaria Arradondo, who has been brazenly biased against Chauvin, even admitted that Kueng's bodycam footage shows that Chauvin's knee was on Floyd's shoulder, not on his neck. This, of course, explains why the autopsy found no trace of bruising on the neck.

[Defense attorney] Nelson played for Arradondo bystander video from the crime scene, which showed Chauvin's knee on Floyd's body, and then played a second video from a different angle in the same moments before and while Floyd was being placed on a gurney.

The defense attorney then showed both camera views simultaneously and asked: "From the perspective of [bystander] Ms. [Darnella] Frazier’s camera, it would appear that Officer Chauvin’s knee is on the neck of Mr. Floyd."

Arradondo said yes. Then, Nelson referenced the second video, showing the officer's body camera footage, and asked: "Would you agree that from the perspective of Officer Kueng's body camera that it appears that Officer Chauvin’s knee was more on Mr. Floyd’s shoulder blade?"

"Yes," Arradondo conceded. ( Chauvin trial: Minneapolis police chief testifies, ER doc theorizes that lack of oxygen stopped Floyd's heart | Fox News)

We also found out that two of the drugs that Floyd took shortly before the incident (fentanyl and methamphetamine) are known for making breathing more difficult.

That is ridiculous.
Everyone say Chauvins knee and shin directly on Floyd's throat.

And you can see that there is no pressure on Chauvin's toes, so then all of Chauvin's weight in on Floyd's throat.

Do you know the difference between someone's throat and someone's neck? Chauvin does not have all of his weight on Floyd's throat! He has his knee on the back and slightly to the side of Floyd's neck. I'd be curious to hear how you determined how much of Chauvin's weight was on Floyd's neck and how much was on his back?

 

[jc456]

Seriously? George Floyd was using counterfeit money. When he was called on it by the store he COULD have returned the cigarettes he bought and that would have been the end of it! HE made the choice not to do so even as the store employees asked him to not once but twice! That action resulted in the store calling the Police. That's on nobody BUT George Floyd!

He and his friend also could have driven off before the cops got there... but they didn't. What they should or should not have done is kind of pointless.

The question is, did Chauvin use deadly force that caused his death. The coroner says he did. Witnesses say he did. His own bosses say he did.

He's toast.

The fact that Floyd and friend sat there in the car outside of the food mart only goes to show what IDIOTS both he and his friend are!

The autopsy is the thing that tells me Chauvin didn't use "deadly force"...he's guilty of failing to recognize that Floyd was OD'ing on drugs...drugs that Floyd the idiot most likely ingested to keep them from being found by the Police! That's an outcome that Floyd the idiot could have avoided if he HAD left after passing the counterfeit bill or HAD told the Police that he had taken a large amount of drugs and was having difficulty breathing because of it!

The autopsy said asphyxiation, and NOT drugs.

You need to look up asphyxiation---you apparently don't understand the MEANING.

It means lack of oxygen for the body---not what caused the lack of oxygen.

Drugs suppress the respiratory system (or circulatory system) so ergo-----body lacks oxygen while the one suffering from the drugs is STILL getting air across the vocal cords allowing them to talk but not able to get their lungs to process oxygen with the heart then stopping and the brain dying aka death. The doctor is actually saying Floyd die of lung issues--while the ME is saying the heart. Which is why most intelligent ME's chose better words for autopsies to avoid legal issues and why this doctor is being so precise with his dx....

Wrong.
The autopsies were VERY specific in saying the death was due to pressure on the throat.
{...
An autopsy carried out by Dr. Andrew Baker, the Hennepin County Medical Examiner, in June last year concluded Floyd's death was a homicide.
...
According to the report, Floyd, ..., died of "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression."
...

Meanwhile, an independent autopsy carried out by experts hired by Floyd's family concluded the 46-year-old died of "asphyxiation from sustained pressure."

Dr. Michael Baden, one of the experts part of the independent team, concluded "there is no other health issue that could cause or contribute to the death."

...}

Then why is the morice guy afraid of implicating himself to later being charged with murder, so my evidence is still appearing.

that dude is implying he killed Floyd. There’s your homicide fk face

 

[jc456]

Never seen a witness getting questions from cross before cross! Appeal?

 

[lantern2814]

No dipshit. Just because you’re too stupid to understand anything doesn’t mean the jury will do what you demand. No conviction on your bullshit murder charge. Funny you keep ignoring everything else from that day. Fuck off asshole. Idiots like you should keep their uneducated mouths shut.

The Jury will convict because the tape is so horrible.

We have the tape.

You have some guys mealy-mouthing about milligrams.

We win.

No, YOU are the child dumbfuck. Refusing to read ANY evidence and letting your hatred of whitey dictate everything. Hey dumbfuck, why did Floyd also LIE when asked directly if he had taken anything? He says NO twice. Plain as day. So you fucking uneducated racist how come there are ZERO injuries to the neck or chest aside from a checked rib from CPR? Better review the department training videos. Chauvin used the technique TAUGHT by that idiot chief’s department. Try to educate yourself.

Those training videos are for suspects who are resisting. Floyd was handcuffed, on the ground and pretty much stopped moving after five minutes... being dead and all. It doesn't matter what he took, that isn't what killed him. The knee to the neck did.

Chauvin is going down...

No asshole. The medical examiner saying NO injuries to the windpipe, throat, or chest. Overdose of Fentanyl. Most people aren’t as stupid as you and can understand when a professional says this killed Floyd as it was 3x the FATAL dose. The knee didn’t kill him no matter how much your racist ass lies about it dumbfuck.

You lie. If he had an overdose of drugs in his body he would have died before the cop put him on the ground and he did not. The cause of death was asphyxiation cutting off oxygen and blood supply to his brain and lungs. He is going down like the dirty dog he is. None of the examinations showed enough drugs in his body to kill him.

You’re obviously an illiterate Moron. Do you claim to know exactly when Floyd took his lethal overdose (as noted by the medical examiner dumbfuck). Try reading. Dozens of places to see that Floyd had 3x the lethal amount in his system. Now STFU you proven liar. You’re going to cry when Chauvin doesn’t go down like you crybabies want.

 

[lantern2814]

Actually "We" have the body cam that shows what really went down not just some media and BLM bullshit emotional manipulation. "We" also have the tox report and floyds criminal record of violence and drug abuse........"We" all aren't as stupid as the racist terrorist blm and prosecution hope people are....

His criminal record doesn't matter. If you want to bring that in, let's also bring in the other 18 times Chauvin violated people's civil rights.

The Tox Screen doesn't matter, because it takes HOURS to die of a drug overdose. he was dead in minutes after encounter Chauvin.

Your Boy is going down. Deal with it.

Your tantrum is getting funny asshole. Now the toxicology doesn’t matter. Yeah it does idiot. That’s why Chauvin doesn’t go down. Deal with it.

No the toxicology does not matter because the people performing the autopsies said it did not matter and was not the cause of death. They said the cause of death was pressure on the throat,

Yeah it does asshole. Your idiocy doesn’t cancel facts. There were no injuries to the throat idiot. Keep burying yourself. You’ll look even dumber when all is said and done.

 

[JoeB131]

You don’t understand because you’re a leftist sheep is the media and the dnc told you Chauvin is guilty of murder without all the evidence being presented.

Not at all.

There are only two legal questions here.

1) Was the use of the choke hold legitimate? Other cops have said it wasn't something they teach and wasn't something they use.

The second issue is did the illegal choke hold cause Floyd's death. Medical doctors have said it has, and oh, yeah, he actually DIED while being choked.

But you think getting a hired expert to talk about "milligrams" is going to win this for you, have at it.

 

[Turtlesoup]

Seriously? George Floyd was using counterfeit money. When he was called on it by the store he COULD have returned the cigarettes he bought and that would have been the end of it! HE made the choice not to do so even as the store employees asked him to not once but twice! That action resulted in the store calling the Police. That's on nobody BUT George Floyd!

He and his friend also could have driven off before the cops got there... but they didn't. What they should or should not have done is kind of pointless.

The question is, did Chauvin use deadly force that caused his death. The coroner says he did. Witnesses say he did. His own bosses say he did.

He's toast.

The fact that Floyd and friend sat there in the car outside of the food mart only goes to show what IDIOTS both he and his friend are!

The autopsy is the thing that tells me Chauvin didn't use "deadly force"...he's guilty of failing to recognize that Floyd was OD'ing on drugs...drugs that Floyd the idiot most likely ingested to keep them from being found by the Police! That's an outcome that Floyd the idiot could have avoided if he HAD left after passing the counterfeit bill or HAD told the Police that he had taken a large amount of drugs and was having difficulty breathing because of it!

The autopsy said asphyxiation, and NOT drugs.

Asphyxiation caused by what? Floyd was complaining about not being able to breathe as he was standing before they even tried to put him in the car. Are you claiming that was caused by the Police? Or is a more likely reason that the drugs he had ingested were filling his lungs with fluid making it hard for him to breath? An overdose of Fentanyl would have that effect.

I watched all the video and never heard Floyd complain about trouble breathing until they piled on top of him, on the ground.

Drugs never fill the lungs with fluid, and anything like that would have been obvious to the coronors.
No, all of the medical experts say it was murder through pressure on the neck.
Although weight on the rib cage was not going to help either.

Then you obviously DIDN'T watch all of the video because Floyd DID complain about having trouble breathing long before he was held down on the ground! Drugs never fill the lungs with fluid? You obviously don't know what an overdose of Fentanyl does!

How could drugs fill the lungs with fluid?
About the only way that could happen is with an allergic reaction, and fentanyl reduces allergic responses.
Here are the overdose symptoms:
{...
Overdose symptoms may include slow breathing and heart rate, severe drowsiness, muscle weakness, cold and clammy skin, pinpoint pupils, and fainting.
...}
Nothing about lungs filling with liquid, and that would take a very long time.

floyd had just gotten over the Covid----------------Covid damages lungs LONG TIME and I should know since my husband wound up in the hospital twice for covid Dec/Jan--------he still has lung issues. 57% of those who had glass lungs---still have damage 12 weeks later is what I have been reading......

 

[Turtlesoup]

Seriously? George Floyd was using counterfeit money. When he was called on it by the store he COULD have returned the cigarettes he bought and that would have been the end of it! HE made the choice not to do so even as the store employees asked him to not once but twice! That action resulted in the store calling the Police. That's on nobody BUT George Floyd!

He and his friend also could have driven off before the cops got there... but they didn't. What they should or should not have done is kind of pointless.

The question is, did Chauvin use deadly force that caused his death. The coroner says he did. Witnesses say he did. His own bosses say he did.

He's toast.

The fact that Floyd and friend sat there in the car outside of the food mart only goes to show what IDIOTS both he and his friend are!

The autopsy is the thing that tells me Chauvin didn't use "deadly force"...he's guilty of failing to recognize that Floyd was OD'ing on drugs...drugs that Floyd the idiot most likely ingested to keep them from being found by the Police! That's an outcome that Floyd the idiot could have avoided if he HAD left after passing the counterfeit bill or HAD told the Police that he had taken a large amount of drugs and was having difficulty breathing because of it!

The autopsy said asphyxiation, and NOT drugs.

Asphyxiation caused by what? Floyd was complaining about not being able to breathe as he was standing before they even tried to put him in the car. Are you claiming that was caused by the Police? Or is a more likely reason that the drugs he had ingested were filling his lungs with fluid making it hard for him to breath? An overdose of Fentanyl would have that effect.

I watched all the video and never heard Floyd complain about trouble breathing until they piled on top of him, on the ground.

Drugs never fill the lungs with fluid, and anything like that would have been obvious to the coronors.
No, all of the medical experts say it was murder through pressure on the neck.
Although weight on the rib cage was not going to help either.

Then you obviously DIDN'T watch all of the video because Floyd DID complain about having trouble breathing long before he was held down on the ground! Drugs never fill the lungs with fluid? You obviously don't know what an overdose of Fentanyl does!

How could drugs fill the lungs with fluid?
About the only way that could happen is with an allergic reaction, and fentanyl reduces allergic responses.
Here are the overdose symptoms:
{...
Overdose symptoms may include slow breathing and heart rate, severe drowsiness, muscle weakness, cold and clammy skin, pinpoint pupils, and fainting.
...}
Nothing about lungs filling with liquid, and that would take a very long time.

He fell asleep in the car before the cops arrived and the friends, girlfriend and drug dealer, couldn't wake him up...that is why they were still there when the cops arrived...

He had a cocktail in his system.....and over 3X the lethal level of fentanyl......

Wrong.
He was not asleep when the cops arrived.
The video shows him awake and reaching around in the car, before the police announce their presence.

A lethal level is one that can kill, not one that will for sure.
Due to tolerance levels increasing with use, this level likely had almost no effect on Floyd.

Given Floyds actions---we can be pretty sure that Floyd was affected by these drug levels.

 

[JoeB131]

The fact that Floyd and friend sat there in the car outside of the food mart only goes to show what IDIOTS both he and his friend are!

Or they didn't think they had done anything wrong.

The autopsy is the thing that tells me Chauvin didn't use "deadly force"...

Really, because both autopsies said he died of asphyxiation.

he's guilty of failing to recognize that Floyd was OD'ing on drugs...drugs that Floyd the idiot most likely ingested to keep them from being found by the Police! That's an outcome that Floyd the idiot could have avoided if he HAD left after passing the counterfeit bill or HAD told the Police that he had taken a large amount of drugs and was having difficulty breathing because of it!

Actually, leaving would have been "Fleeing the scene" and an admission of guilt. Maybe he legitimately thought that it was a valid bill and the cops would resolve that issue.

It takes MINUTES to die of a drug overdose! Floyd was most likely starting to die when he told the Police he couldn't breathe even before they tried to place him in the cruiser.

The point is, he didn't die in the cruiser, he died under Chauvin's knee.

Would you like to show that Chauvin actually DID violate someone's civil rights 18 previous times? Or does the complaint itself carry an automatic guilty verdict these days if you're a Cop? He was a veteran cop who had 18 complaints filed against him over a period of 19 years...only two of which resulted in reprimands. Pretty typical stuff for a cop working in the inner city.

Actually, no, it really isn't. For instance, when Chicago did a comprehensive review of police complaints after the Laquan McDonald murder, they found that 50% of the complaints were against the same 139 officer - 1% of the force. (Including the officer who shot McDonald 16 times when he was laying on the ground.) The thing we find in these incidents is that the officers involved usually have long records of misconduct the unions and the Police Departments excuse.

The knee on the neck is in their training manual........they are trained to use the knee on the neck....

According to the police cheif, it isn't. But let's say it is. Does that make it right? Again, this argument of "I was only following orders" didn't work for the Nazis at Nuremburg or Calley at Mai Lai... why do you think it works here?

Moron....the cops knew he was on drugs.....so they held him down to keep him from struggling and making his condition worse...

Idiot- he died. That made his condition a lot worse.

 

[2aguy]

The fact that Floyd and friend sat there in the car outside of the food mart only goes to show what IDIOTS both he and his friend are!

Or they didn't think they had done anything wrong.

The autopsy is the thing that tells me Chauvin didn't use "deadly force"...

Really, because both autopsies said he died of asphyxiation.

he's guilty of failing to recognize that Floyd was OD'ing on drugs...drugs that Floyd the idiot most likely ingested to keep them from being found by the Police! That's an outcome that Floyd the idiot could have avoided if he HAD left after passing the counterfeit bill or HAD told the Police that he had taken a large amount of drugs and was having difficulty breathing because of it!

Actually, leaving would have been "Fleeing the scene" and an admission of guilt. Maybe he legitimately thought that it was a valid bill and the cops would resolve that issue.

It takes MINUTES to die of a drug overdose! Floyd was most likely starting to die when he told the Police he couldn't breathe even before they tried to place him in the cruiser.

The point is, he didn't die in the cruiser, he died under Chauvin's knee.

Would you like to show that Chauvin actually DID violate someone's civil rights 18 previous times? Or does the complaint itself carry an automatic guilty verdict these days if you're a Cop? He was a veteran cop who had 18 complaints filed against him over a period of 19 years...only two of which resulted in reprimands. Pretty typical stuff for a cop working in the inner city.

Actually, no, it really isn't. For instance, when Chicago did a comprehensive review of police complaints after the Laquan McDonald murder, they found that 50% of the complaints were against the same 139 officer - 1% of the force. (Including the officer who shot McDonald 16 times when he was laying on the ground.) The thing we find in these incidents is that the officers involved usually have long records of misconduct the unions and the Police Departments excuse.

The knee on the neck is in their training manual........they are trained to use the knee on the neck....

According to the police cheif, it isn't. But let's say it is. Does that make it right? Again, this argument of "I was only following orders" didn't work for the Nazis at Nuremburg or Calley at Mai Lai... why do you think it works here?

Moron....the cops knew he was on drugs.....so they held him down to keep him from struggling and making his condition worse...

Idiot- he died. That made his condition a lot worse.

He died from a drug overdose....not from the cops.....