Peggy Noonan is Wrong!

[Sallow]

This week, Peggy Noonan wrote the following in the WSJ:

1. …the White House seems desperate to be seen as consequential. They're trotting out Press Secretary Jay Carney, who stands there looking like a ferret with flop sweat as he insists President Obama is still at the table, still manning the phones and calling shots.

2. …something I've never seen in national politics. It is that nobody loves Obama. This is amazing because every president has people who love him, who feel deep personal affection or connection, who have a stubborn, even beautiful refusal to let what they know are just criticisms affect their feelings of regard. … Nobody smiles when they talk about Mr. Obama.

3. Here are the words of a hard-line progressive and wise veteran of the political wars: "I never loved Barack Obama. That said, among my crowd who did 'love' him, I can't think of anyone who still does." Why is Mr. Obama different from Messrs. Clinton and Bush?. . . . Maybe the most important word that described Clinton and Bush but not Obama is 'genuine.'" He "doesn't exude any feeling that what he says and does is genuine."

4. And so his failures in the debt ceiling fight. He wasn't serious, he was only shrewd—and shrewdness wasn't enough. He demagogued the issue—no Social Security checks—until he was called out, and then went on the hustings spouting inanities.

5. So he is losing a battle in which he had superior forces—the presidency, the U.S. Senate. In the process he revealed that his foes have given him too much mystique. He is not a devil, an alien, a socialist. He is a loser. And this is America, where nobody loves a loser.
Noonan: They've Lost That Lovin' Feeling - WSJ.com

But here is where the perceptive Ms. Noonan is wrong: how can one say that President Obama is a loser? He won the race…passed huge bone-headed bills that proved misguided failures…but he won their passage.

No, the losers are:

1) The Leftist elites who supported this incompetent, and

2) The Old Left Media, who failed at their job: to vet the candidates.

3) And the biggest losers of all? Those who entrusted their votes without demanding to know what this candidate stood for or what he would do, and didn’t see through the smoke being blown by the partisans.

These same ‘losers’ would have kicked the tires and demanded the CarFax on an old jalopy they were about to buy, instead they saddled the rest of us with this lying blow-hard incompetent.

Obama's on his way out...but you'll be here, and those of us who correctly pinned the tail on this donkey will be, too. And we won't let you forget.

BTW,
Thanks, losers.

Unfortunately, thanks to their envious life beliefs, the rest of us (and our country) are being tortured by the side that claims torture is wrong.

^^^ Case in point.

The Constitution says torture is wrong.

Live it.
Learn it.
Love it or leave it.

 

[DavidS]

Where are my cookies???

 

[PoliticalChic]

Choose your topic and if I agree, I will be more than happy to put you in your place.

However, you are scared inbred who is afraid to rise up and challenge me to a discussion.

Is that tin hat a little tight? Even on that pin-head?

I see that you are scared. I will even let you team up with the dumbass, Willowtree.

Whenever you are ready to grow a backbone, I will be here. Just flag my attention.

Auntie....I see that it is necessary to point out the obvious.....

....you signed on to this topic, this thread, and have contributed as much as you are able! Nothing!!!

You remind me of nothing so much as the junior high school losers, your cousins, who thump their concave chests boasting how great they are.....and all this from the 'dumb row.'

 

[PoliticalChic]

Actually there are winners.

The winners at this point are people that think the United States..should be United. The winners are people that didn't want a total collapse of the economy. The winners are the people that wanted to see the real prepatrators of the worst foreign terrorist attack to this country brought to justice. The winners are the people that believe in the United States Constitution.

The losers are still trying to wreck and divide the country, who make enemies of everyone but do not want to see "the bogeyman" actually caught, who wanted to see the collapse of American Economy because it would be there would be people who would make vast sums of money selling our companies to foreign interests (like Lehman) or parsing them up and selling them piecemeal, and those who would remake our Constitution by ripping out parts they don't like and adding parts they do without consensus.

In other words..the real losers here are Conservatives.

Sally....what are "prepatrators"?

 

[Antiderivative]

Auntie....I see that it is necessary to point out the obvious.....

....you signed on to this topic, this thread, and have contributed as much as you are able! Nothing!!!

You remind me of nothing so much as the junior high school losers, your cousins, who thump their concave chets boasting how great they are.....and all this from the 'dumb row.'

Whenever you are ready to challenge me to a debate, I will be here.

I contributed to this thread with my response, "Why is Peggy Noonan relevant". There is a topic to debate. Just finalize it and I will be happy to put you in your grave.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Actually there are winners.

The winners at this point are people that think the United States..should be United. The winners are people that didn't want a total collapse of the economy. The winners are the people that wanted to see the real prepatrators of the worst foreign terrorist attack to this country brought to justice. The winners are the people that believe in the United States Constitution.

The losers are still trying to wreck and divide the country, who make enemies of everyone but do not want to see "the bogeyman" actually caught, who wanted to see the collapse of American Economy because it would be there would be people who would make vast sums of money selling our companies to foreign interests (like Lehman) or parsing them up and selling them piecemeal, and those who would remake our Constitution by ripping out parts they don't like and adding parts they do without consensus.

In other words..the real losers here are Conservatives.

Sally....what are "prepatrators"?

Sallow speaks in tongues sometimes. I wish he'd give us a newly abridged Sallow dictionary so we could decipher some of his nonsense......or at least an alphabet.

 

[Sarah G]

Brokaw and Rose? Corporatist hacks?

You go girl. Expose that evil liberal media.

Are those two still living even?

 

[The Rabbi]

Actually there are winners.

The winners at this point are people that think the United States..should be United. The winners are people that didn't want a total collapse of the economy. The winners are the people that wanted to see the real prepatrators of the worst foreign terrorist attack to this country brought to justice. The winners are the people that believe in the United States Constitution.

The losers are still trying to wreck and divide the country, who make enemies of everyone but do not want to see "the bogeyman" actually caught, who wanted to see the collapse of American Economy because it would be there would be people who would make vast sums of money selling our companies to foreign interests (like Lehman) or parsing them up and selling them piecemeal, and those who would remake our Constitution by ripping out parts they don't like and adding parts they do without consensus.

In other words..the real losers here are Conservatives.

Sally....what are "prepatrators"?

Sallow speaks in tongues sometimes. I wish he'd give us a newly abridged Sallow dictionary so we could decipher some of his nonsense......or at least an alphabet.

He was doing so well until he got to the last line. But Shallow's posts have been going downhill. He went from merely wrong to completely demented in about 3 months. Maybe the exposure to truth here made his head explode.

 

[Antiderivative]

Brokaw and Rose? Corporatist hacks?

You go girl. Expose that evil liberal media.

Are those two still living even?

I think Rose is. He is much cooler when he invites Neil Young onto his show.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLt7pZZbFT4]‪Charlie Rose - Neil Young‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Sallow]

Actually there are winners.

The winners at this point are people that think the United States..should be United. The winners are people that didn't want a total collapse of the economy. The winners are the people that wanted to see the real prepatrators of the worst foreign terrorist attack to this country brought to justice. The winners are the people that believe in the United States Constitution.

The losers are still trying to wreck and divide the country, who make enemies of everyone but do not want to see "the bogeyman" actually caught, who wanted to see the collapse of American Economy because it would be there would be people who would make vast sums of money selling our companies to foreign interests (like Lehman) or parsing them up and selling them piecemeal, and those who would remake our Constitution by ripping out parts they don't like and adding parts they do without consensus.

In other words..the real losers here are Conservatives.

Sally....what are "prepatrators"?

Delusional ittle girls who think machine guns make them look tough and attractive.

Know any?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Brokaw and Rose? Corporatist hacks?

You go girl. Expose that evil liberal media.

Are those two still living even?

Honey, they ain't that old. Brokaw's retired and Charlie Rose still has his boring ass show... I think it's on PBS.

 

[Sallow]

Actually there are winners.

The winners at this point are people that think the United States..should be United. The winners are people that didn't want a total collapse of the economy. The winners are the people that wanted to see the real prepatrators of the worst foreign terrorist attack to this country brought to justice. The winners are the people that believe in the United States Constitution.

The losers are still trying to wreck and divide the country, who make enemies of everyone but do not want to see "the bogeyman" actually caught, who wanted to see the collapse of American Economy because it would be there would be people who would make vast sums of money selling our companies to foreign interests (like Lehman) or parsing them up and selling them piecemeal, and those who would remake our Constitution by ripping out parts they don't like and adding parts they do without consensus.

In other words..the real losers here are Conservatives.

Sally....what are "prepatrators"?

Sallow speaks in tongues sometimes. I wish he'd give us a newly abridged Sallow dictionary so we could decipher some of his nonsense......or at least an alphabet.

No really.

You've made some real concise and excellent points.

Something along the lines of:

Point - The sky is blue.
Counter-Point - Jane you ignorant slut.

That there is some good debating I tell you what..

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAvGUIvQblg]‪king of the hill full unedited theme song‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Antiderivative]

C'mon PC challenge me. I will even let you team up with fucktards such as WT and the Rabbi.

Don't you like 3:1 odds?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Sally....what are "prepatrators"?

Sallow speaks in tongues sometimes. I wish he'd give us a newly abridged Sallow dictionary so we could decipher some of his nonsense......or at least an alphabet.

No really.

You've made some real concise and excellent points.

Something along the lines of:

Point - The sky is blue.
Counter-Point - Jane you ignorant slut.

That there is some good debating I tell you what..

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAvGUIvQblg]‪king of the hill full unedited theme song‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]

Very nice, lmao!!

 

[PoliticalChic]

Actually there are winners.

The winners at this point are people that think the United States..should be United. The winners are people that didn't want a total collapse of the economy. The winners are the people that wanted to see the real prepatrators of the worst foreign terrorist attack to this country brought to justice. The winners are the people that believe in the United States Constitution.

The losers are still trying to wreck and divide the country, who make enemies of everyone but do not want to see "the bogeyman" actually caught, who wanted to see the collapse of American Economy because it would be there would be people who would make vast sums of money selling our companies to foreign interests (like Lehman) or parsing them up and selling them piecemeal, and those who would remake our Constitution by ripping out parts they don't like and adding parts they do without consensus.

In other words..the real losers here are Conservatives.

Sally....what are "prepatrators"?

Delusional ittle girls who think machine guns make them look tough and attractive.

Know any?

I checked in the dictionary...and it wasn't there...

...but there were two definitions for 'redundant'....

...and none for 'gullible.'


Well, I must go now, my coach, Mr. Myagi, is helping me prepare for out next confrontation: wax on, wax off, wax on, wax off…

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Noonan has the right to express her subjective opinion, however wrong. It’s remarkable to the extent the right doesn’t get it – amazing, really.

The losers are still trying to wreck and divide the country, who make enemies of everyone but do not want to see "the bogeyman" actually caught, who wanted to see the collapse of American Economy because it would be there would be people who would make vast sums of money selling our companies to foreign interests (like Lehman) or parsing them up and selling them piecemeal, and those who would remake our Constitution by ripping out parts they don't like and adding parts they do without consensus.

True.

The fact is, of course, the right is an enemy of the Republic and rule of law, which makes sense given their dogma. The rule of law won’t allow the establishment of a ruling class, as desired by the right, for example. Or the elimination of statutes predicated on equal protection and due process. The rule of law disallows legislating hate and morality.

Conservatives seek their goals through fear and intimidation, by threat and coercion. Compromise is heresy, and personal attacks on political enemies approved doctrine. This thread and others by its author is a prime example.

The political avarice exhibited by the right is nothing new, of course, the Framers were well aware of it during their time and created the Constitution accordingly. Indeed, it was as if the Framers created the Constitution with the modern political right in mind, in an effort to defend the Republic from their lust for political hegemony.

 

[Antiderivative]

No challengers? Sissies.

 

[PoliticalChic]

C'mon PC challenge me. I will even let you team up with fucktards such as WT and the Rabbi.

Don't you like 3:1 odds?

Challenge you? Challenge you? You, who have proven your ineptitude????

Let me sum up my resonse in the following tale:

The masochist says to the sadist, "hit me, beat me, hurt me...."

The sadist says...."Noooooooo...."


Let me help you to comprehend the above...I understand you abject lonliness (and the deservedness of same).
I look forward to maintaining you in that position.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Obama wasn't 'vetted'?

That's a kneeslapper.

btw, Obama has a favorability rating in the 55 - 45 neighborhood.

That's pretty darn good all things considered.

Good ol' Carby...I was away for a while, and considered what to do when I missed folks like you.
I realized the answer is to reload and fire again.

A kneeslapper???

Here is Rose and Brokaw verifying exactly what I said: he wasn't vetted:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzMas1bVidw]‪Brokaw and Rose Admit They Don't Know Much About Obama.‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]


Boy, do I love shoving your words right back down your throat!

I'm right you're wrong.

The media spent A MONTH on the Reverend Wright faux-scandal alone, and that's just for starters.

If you think the media didn't cover something about Obama, you should tell us what it was.

 

[Antiderivative]

C'mon PC challenge me. I will even let you team up with fucktards such as WT and the Rabbi.

Don't you like 3:1 odds?

Challenge you? Challenge you? You, who have proven your ineptitude????

Let me sum up my resonse in the following tale:

The masochist says to the sadist, "hit me, beat me, hurt me...."

The sadist says...."Noooooooo...."

I look forward to maintaining you in that position.

More BS from you. You also deflected.

Scared of an informed individual? Yes, you are.

Later troll.