Peace Process Antics

[Gardener]

You have given no valid reason or proof as to why the arabs deserve the land except in your own mind. If they had thought the land was rightfully theirs they would have formed a government, declared a state and defined borders when they had no opposition. They were offered a state. They declined and started a war instead. They lost. You have lost. Have the decency to admit it.

they deserve the land because a hiostoric injustice was done.

just like how the jews believd that they deserved a piece of palestyine before 1949,.

thye felt it was justicde to get bakc their "ancestreral" land.

 

[Bloodrock44]

You have given no valid reason or proof as to why the arabs deserve the land except in your own mind. If they had thought the land was rightfully theirs they would have formed a government, declared a state and defined borders when they had no opposition. They were offered a state. They declined and started a war instead. They lost. You have lost. Have the decency to admit it.

they deserve the land because a hiostoric injustice was done.

just like how the jews believd that they deserved a piece of palestyine before 1949,.

thye felt it was justicde to get bakc their "ancestreral" land.

Now your sounding like a broken record and trying to convince yourself that what your saying is true. They had their chance. The squatters blew it. Enough said.

 

[Gardener]

Now your sounding like a broken record and trying to convince yourself that what your saying is true. They had their chance. The squatters blew it. Enough said.

Palestiinians have twice or 3 times the birthratte of Israeli jews.

time is on the side of Palestine and againnsst Isreal.

in maybe 20 years the majority of people between the river and the sea will be Arab Muslims.

time isn on their side. and against the jews.

 

[Hossfly]

Did you even read Roccos post ? Or are you just ignoring the truth as usual ?

everything i have postd is 100% accurate

I think many viewers realize that you have posted your and the Arabs version of what happened. Moreover, the viewers are smart enough to realize that Rocco has studied this issue more thoroughly than you and knows what actually is the truth.

 

[Gardener]

I think many viewers realize that you have posted your and the Arabs version of what happened. Moreover, the viewers are smart enough to realize that Rocco has studied this issue more thoroughly than you and knows what actually is the truth.

what am i not correct about?

 

[Bloodrock44]

Now your sounding like a broken record and trying to convince yourself that what your saying is true. They had their chance. The squatters blew it. Enough said.

Palestiinians have twice or 3 times the birthratte of Israeli jews.

time is on the side of Palestine and againnsst Isreal.

in maybe 20 years the majority of people between the river and the sea will be Arab Muslims.

time isn on their side. and against the jews.

It's really naïve to think that numbers matter.

 

[Gardener]

It's really naïve to think that numbers matter.

the ttipping point is when the Palestinians outnumber the Jews.

 

[Bloodrock44]

I think many viewers realize that you have posted your and the Arabs version of what happened. Moreover, the viewers are smart enough to realize that Rocco has studied this issue more thoroughly than you and knows what actually is the truth.

what am i not correct about?

Just about everything you said. Bottom line: Jews have the land and that will never change.

 

[Hossfly]

I think many viewers realize that you have posted your and the Arabs version of what happened. Moreover, the viewers are smart enough to realize that Rocco has studied this issue more thoroughly than you and knows what actually is the truth.

what am i not correct about?

Rocco has told you the truth. I think many of the viewers realize why you don't pay attention to what he says. However, if you want to keep on regurgitating what you want the viewers to think is the truth, go for it.

 

[Gardener]

Just about everything you said. Bottom line: Jews have the land and that will never change.

that is not an answer

that is a deflection

 

[Gardener]

Rocco has told you the truth. I think many of the viewers realize why you don't pay attention to what he says. However, if you want to keep on regurgitating what you want the viewers to think is the truth, go for it.

he told the truth?

says who?

because you want to believe him?

how convenient for you.

 

[MHunterB]

I, too, wondered why Gardener didn't actually reply to Rocco's points. Rocco is one of the most well-informed and best-organized posters around.

 

[Gardener]

Gardener, et al,

You guys get this wrong almost every time.

So how about giving your version of why you all did not accept statehood in 1948 and why you think you deserve one now.

palestinians made up 67% of palesgtine's population/

jews made up 33%.

so why did the UN give the jews 60% of the land?????????????????

the palestinians had a right to be piseed at this unfairness.

(COMMENT)

Of the Mandate of Palestine: (Close Approximation)

• 77% of the Mandate Territory went to form the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan.
• 12.7% of the Mandate Territory went to form the State of Israel.
• 10.3% of the Mandate Territory went to form the Arab State (rejected).

So, a total of 87.3% was partitioned to form Arab States.

There was an intent to reconstitute the Jewish national home from the very beginning. Of the entire set of territories in the proximity of the Region we call the Middle East, renounced and surrendered by the Ottoman/Turkish Empire, today including the states of Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Sudan, and Syria, were ultimately created by the League of Nations (UN) and the Allied Powers. Even the Kingdom of the Hedjaz (now part of Saudi Arabia) was declare a free and independent State through action already taken by the Allied Powers.

I know it is not in the nature for the Arab Palestinian to look at the larger picture (we get that), but when it comes to the question of "fairness," they really have a myopic view of the territory, region and the world.

Most Respectfully,
R

You know like i do that Jordan was made part of Pwlestine Mandate only for purposes of convenience and adminsitration. It had nothing to do with these areas being part of historical palestine. historical palestine went from the river to the sea and from aroujnd haifa to around where the negev desert begins.

yes jordan was part of palestine for one year but so what who cares.

it is a meaningless blipp in the history of palestine.

tennessee was part of north carolina for 20 yeaars. does this mean north carolina should today ask taxes from people in tennessee????????????????????

vermont was part of new york so should new york ask for taxes from vermont people?????

half of nevada belonged to republic of texas so should texas today dmand taxes from nevada????????????????

your logic is dumb, friendo.

 

[Bloodrock44]

Just about everything you said. Bottom line: Jews have the land and that will never change.

that is not an answer

that is a deflection

And what you're using is Turnspeak. So now you disagree that the Jews have the land they're on? . I think I'll go have a discussion with a box of rocks. Even they can listen to reason.

 

[Hossfly]

Rocco has told you the truth. I think many of the viewers realize why you don't pay attention to what he says. However, if you want to keep on regurgitating what you want the viewers to think is the truth, go for it.

he told the truth?

says who?

because you want to believe him?

how convenient for you.

Well how convenient of you to believe what you want to believe!!! I think Rocco is more informed from legitimate sources than you are and the viewers realize it. But keep on regurgitating. We want you to be happy

 

[Gardener]

And what you're using is Turnspeak. So now you disagree that the Jews have the land they're on? . I think I'll go have a discussion with a box of rocks. Even they can listen to reason.

you and others still refuse to ebven try to tell me what i said was incorrect.

you delfect, duck, dodge, like in dodgeball.

good job. meanwhile i talk about the topic and disccuss the issues.

 

[Gardener]

Well how convenient of you to believe what you want to believe!!! I think Rocco is more informed from legitimate sources than you are and the viewers realize it. But keep on regurgitating. We want you to be happy

you arent debating, friendo.

you are jjust patting other people on the back.

i am talking about the topic and defending my positins while one person debates and u and the other guy just give back masages.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Those as well were overtaken by Arab inspired uprising and wars. The Arab-Palestinian essentially shot themselves in the foot (both feet); let themselves heal, only to shoot themselves in the feet several times more.

Most Respectfully,
R

the arabs has 1.2 million peopples in palestine.

the jews had 600 thousand.

the arabs made up 66% of the population.

the jews made up 33% of the populatuion.

the jews get 60% of the land??????????????????????????????????????

total crap and the arabs were right to rejects such an injustice.

almost all the 600,000 jews were immigrantsa from europe and they get 60% of the land?

almost all the 1.2 million arabs lived in palestine before 1918 and they get 40% of the land??????

hughe injustice and the arabs were right to fight back and defend their interests!!!!!!

no justice no peace!!!

You have given no valid reason or proof as to why the arabs deserve the land except in your own mind. If they had thought the land was rightfully theirs they would have formed a government, declared a state and defined borders when they had no opposition. They were offered a state. They declined and started a war instead. They lost. You have lost. Have the decency to admit it.

After the mandate left in 1948 the Palestinians did form a government and declared independence inside their international borders.

 

[Gardener]

After the mandate left in 1948 the Palestinians did form a government and declared independence inside their international borders.

that is a lie and you have no evdience because it is a lie.

when did th palestinians delcare independence inside their international borders?

 

[P F Tinmore]

After the mandate left in 1948 the Palestinians did form a government and declared independence inside their international borders.

that is a lie and you have no evdience because it is a lie.

when did th palestinians delcare independence inside their international borders?

A/C.1/330 of 14 October 1948