Netanyahu threatens to invade Iran if uranium not handed over peacefully

[Roudy]

We need to stop supporting Israel. Let them fight by themselves. Netanyahu won't be so quick to fight if he knows big brother won't fight for him.

Israel can take care of itself, as has been proven over and over and over. We should wish all our allies were as loyal, honorable and capable as the Israel, unlike European dirtbags run by Leftists who have surrendered to the barbarian medieval Muslim invaders.

 

[Roudy]

Magat. Iran was already offering to give up the enriched U-235 if they were allowed to have the some of the things lifted off their shoulders under, Guess Who, Biden.

You are still playing the game that 1. Drumph is a genius on all things. 2. He is operating with all his marbles.
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And you’re the douchebag ignorant fool who thinks Iranian Mullah Islamist terrorist animals can be trusted.

 

[August West]

We need to stop supporting Israel. Let them fight by themselves. Netanyahu won't be so quick to fight if he knows big brother won't fight for him.

If we had stopped supporting them several decades ago, the WTC Towers would still be standing at the tip of manhattan.

 

[the watcher]

NY Times reports how Netanyahu took the US into Iran War

In the Situation Room, Trump sat opposite Netanyahu, on the screen behind Netanyahu were the director of Mossad and Israeli military officials…

israelpalestinenews.org

 

[Roudy]

If we had stopped supporting them several decades ago, the WTC Towers would still be standing at the tip of manhattan.

Bullshiite. Your blood libel lies have been noted, you are an ignorant moron. Osama Bin Laden was a devout Muslim and a Saudi, he attacked the U.S. because we infidels had used Saudi territory, Islamic holy land, to repel Sadam Hossein from his invasion of Kuwait. Israel had ZERO to do with it.

 

[Vrenn]

Bullshiite. Your blood libel lies have been noted, you are an ignorant moron. Osama Bin Laden was a devout Muslim and a Saudi, he attacked the U.S. because we infidels had used Saudi territory, Islamic holy land, to repel Sadam Hossein from his invasion of Kuwait. Israel had ZERO to do with it

Bin Laden was a converted devout Shia which pretty makes up almost all so called Muslim Terrorists including Hama, and more. A devout Sunni would have never attacked like that.

 

[Roudy]

Bin Laden was a converted devout Shia which pretty makes up almost all so called Muslim Terrorists including Hama, and more. A devout Sunni would have never attacked like that.

Ha ha ha. Like ISIS and the Taliban, Bin Laden and Al Queda were devout Sunni Muslims, you ignorant uneducated fool. And like most Sunnis, they HATE Shiites, even more than they do Jews. Islamic terrorism is not limited to Sunni or Shiite. Your stupidity and ignorance are off the charts.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Then let him. Let the Israelis pay the biggest price for their criminal, religious extremist leader. Let the world pay the price of the economic disruption and see if the world thinks Israel has a right to invade Iran.

 

[IM2]

Bullshiite. Your blood libel lies have been noted, you are an ignorant moron. Osama Bin Laden was a devout Muslim and a Saudi, he attacked the U.S. because we infidels had used Saudi territory, Islamic holy land, to repel Sadam Hossein from his invasion of Kuwait. Israel had ZERO to do with it.

He is right. The government of Israel has used the excuse of having a right to exist to be aggressors. Bin Laden was paid by our government to fight in Afghanistan against the Russians. Maybe we should never have given him arms.

 

[Shusha]

The government of Israel has used the excuse of having a right to exist to be aggressors.

The "excuse of having a right to exist"?!

Israel exists. There is no "right" to destroy an existing State. Anyone who acts, or credibly threatens to act, to destroy a State or to harm the civilians of a State, is the aggressor.

 

[BackAgain]

We need to stop supporting Israel. Let them fight by themselves. Netanyahu won't be so quick to fight if he knows big brother won't fight for him.

You’re an irrational asshole.

It never dawns on you hate-filled scumbags that there is nothing wrong with simply agreeing that Israel has a legitimate right to exist and to defend itself.

I don’t think you’d ever fit into any world where Arab or other Muslim nations simply saw fit to leave Israel the **** alone.

 

[IM2]

The "excuse of having a right to exist"?!

Israel exists. There is no "right" to destroy an existing State. Anyone who acts, or credibly threatens to act, to destroy a State or to harm the civilians of a State, is the aggressor.

Yes, the excuse. Israel does have a right to exist, but they don't have the right to occupy a country for 7 years like they did Lebanon, and they certainly don't have the right to finance and arm Hamas for years, then try wiping them out. The Netanyahu government had killed more than 1,400 Palestinians before Oct 7th. You'd better go study the whole situation, not the half you're being fed.

 

[Shusha]

Yes, the excuse. Israel does have a right to exist,

Again, there is no need to discuss the "right to exist". Israel exists. There is no right to destroy an existing State.

but they don't have the right to occupy a country for 7 years like they did Lebanon,

They do. Military occupation during war is accepted international practice pending a resolution to the war and a peace agreement. The government of a State has the responsibility to ensure that all actors within their State refrain from belligerent acts against another State. If they are unable or unwilling to enforce that restraint, they risk the offended State exercising their Article 51 right to self-defense.

and they certainly don't have the right to finance and arm Hamas for years, then try wiping them out.

Israel has the right to respond, in self-defense, to the belligerent (and genocidal) acts brought on them during the October 7 invasion. They have a right to formulate military goals and to use military force to bring about those goals. The goal of dismantling the ability of a government to commit future belligerent acts by destroying their military infrastructure is in alignment with self-defense.

 

[IM2]

Again, there is no need to discuss the "right to exist". Israel exists. There is no right to destroy an existing State.

They do. Military occupation during war is accepted international practice pending a resolution to the war and a peace agreement. The government of a State has the responsibility to ensure that all actors within their State refrain from belligerent acts against another State. If they are unable or unwilling to enforce that restraint, they risk the offended State exercising their Article 51 right to self-defense.

Israel has the right to respond, in self-defense, to the belligerent (and genocidal) acts brought on them during the October 7 invasion. They have a right to formulate military goals and to use military force to bring about those goals. The goal of dismantling the ability of a government to commit future belligerent acts by destroying their military infrastructure is in alignment with self-defense.

Netanyahu propped up Hamas for years

Go study the entire situation and stop repeating that one-sided BS.

Then come talk.

 

[Shusha]

Netanyahu propped up Hamas for years

Go study the entire situation and stop repeating that one-sided BS.

Then come talk.

I've studied the "entire situation" for decades. I understand fully how Hamas was funded. And I have an exceedingly thorough comprehension of the laws of armed conflict and IHL.

You've made three claims:

1. Israel has no right to occupy parts of Lebanon.
2. Israel is the aggressor (belligerent) State.
3. Netanyahu (though I think you mean the government of Israel) has no right to "fund" Hamas and then defend itself from Hamas.

Support your claims with facts and law. Or clarify that this is just your personal belief.

 

[JWBooth]

Here we go again. Something that was agreed on over a year ago if conditions had become different. You don't have to bomb a country back to the stoneage to get something done that already was already on the diplomatic table.

Netanyahu threatens to invade Iran if uranium not handed over peacefully​

In a speech, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu threatened Iran despite the ceasefire agreement, suggesting that the army is ready to resume operations if the Islamist-run state does not denuclearize.

"The enriched material will leave Iran either by agreement or by fighting," the Israeli leader said. "The Iranians are not producing new missiles, and we have severely damaged the nuclear program and the scientists," Netanyahu added.


He says the "bottom line" of the campaign is that "Israel is stronger than ever, and Iran is weaker than ever."


This whole thing is being run by a Madman with another MadBaby's head stuck up his A$$

It was too much to hope that the Iranians had taken him out.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Good for them. We need to get the hell out.

 

[IM2]

I've studied the "entire situation" for decades. I understand fully how Hamas was funded. And I have an exceedingly thorough comprehension of the laws of armed conflict and IHL.

You've made three claims:

1. Israel has no right to occupy parts of Lebanon.
2. Israel is the aggressor (belligerent) State.
3. Netanyahu (though I think you mean the government of Israel) has no right to "fund" Hamas and then defend itself from Hamas.

Support your claims with facts and law. Or clarify that this is just your personal belief.

You have not studied anything. Because if you had:

For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces

The premier's policy of treating the terror group as a partner, at the expense of Abbas and Palestinian statehood, has resulted in wounds that will take Israel years to heal from

www.timesofisrael.com

Benjamin Netanyahu: Money to Hamas part of strategy to keep Palestinians divided | The Jerusalem Post

“Now that we are supervising, we know it’s going to humanitarian causes,” the source said, paraphrasing Netanyahu.

www.jpost.com

‘Buying quiet’: Inside the Israeli plan that propped up Hamas

Binyamin Netanyahu’s government has encouraged payments of billions of dollars to Gaza militant group

www.irishtimes.com

Why Netanyahu Bolstered Hamas

The Israeli prime minister followed a decades-old divide-and-rule strategy that fuels endless war.

www.thenation.com

How Israel helped prop up Hamas for decades | Analyst News

What is Hamas, and why has Israel deliberately enabled its existence for years?

www.analystnews.org

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/netanyahu-israel-gaza-hamas-1.7010035

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I guess you don't mind the consistent violations of agreements by Israel as they expand settlements illegally.

Israel’s Security Cabinet ‘secretly’ approves 34 illegal settlements in occupied West Bank: Report

Israel’s Security Cabinet “secretly” approved the establishment of 34 illegal settlements in the occupied West Bank during a recent session, Israeli media reported on Thursday, Anadolu reports. Cha…

www.middleeastmonitor.com

Illegal settlement expansion: How Israel is redrawing occupied West Bank

Israel's approval of 19 new settlements stands to redraw occupied West Bank, undermining prospect of two-state solution.

www.aljazeera.com

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/over-500-illegal-israeli-settlements-outposts-spread-across-west-bank-palestinian-report-says/3884716

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Or the Israeli settler vioence aginst palestinans the government allows.

https://www.btselem.org/settler_violence_updates_list?importance=1

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Since 2007, but before October 7, 2023, Israel had bombed and/or invaded Gaza seven times, killing almost 4,000 Palestinians and destroying many thousands of homes, as well as schools, universities, hospitals, and other community facilities, many of them several times over. No country has the right to occupy another one, an IDGAF what people claim Lebanon was doing, Israel had no right to be there.

1982-2000 Israeli occupation of Southern Lebanon - Wikipedia

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If you studied, you would know that both sides are belligerent. Netanyahu has used the United States, and it is time to cut him off. We can resume the relationship when he is removed.

So like I said, go study both sides of the story. Then come talk.

 

[Roudy]

He is right. The government of Israel has used the excuse of having a right to exist to be aggressors. Bin Laden was paid by our government to fight in Afghanistan against the Russians. Maybe we should never have given him arms.

Wrong. Israel is and always been responding to Arab Muslim aggression.

 

[Shusha]

You have not studied anything. Because if you had:

Dude. It's not a SECRET that Israel (and not just the Netanyahu government) chose a strategy of allowing funds from Qatar and others into Gaza with the knowledge that some of that funding/aide would be snicked by Hamas for terrorist activities. (And, indeed, had Israel prevented funds from entering Gaza, you would be accusing Israel of "starving" Gaza.) SO WHAT? What is your point in bringing this up? That we can't make the poor Hamas terrorist group sad by taking away their allowance?

I guess you don't mind the consistent violations of agreements by Israel as they expand settlements illegally.

Since 2007, but before October 7, 2023, Israel had bombed and/or invaded Gaza seven times, killing almost 4,000 Palestinians and destroying many thousands of homes, as well as schools, universities, hospitals, and other community facilities, many of them several times over.

Yada, yada. So rather than addressing the claims you have already made, you just whataboutism into new claims. Look, I can address all of these issues. With pleasure. But let's work through the claims you've already made before we begin new ones.

No country has the right to occupy another one, an IDGAF what people claim Lebanon was doing, Israel had no right to be there.

That is simply false. Military action and occupation is an accepted practice in international law and the laws of armed conflict. They are borders, not force fields. And if a State uses force to violate the territorial integrity, political independence, sovereignty, and civilian safety of another State, the violated State has every right in international law to respond in self-defense.

"I don't care what people claim Lebanon was doing"? You can't just disappear the military belligerence of one State and pretend it isn't relevant to the laws of armed conflict. It'd be like, I don't care if he shot you, you have no right to react.