Peace Process Antics

[Roudy]

And call the West Bank by it's rightful name that it had for 3000 years before Arab invaders changed it's name in 1948: Judea and Samaria of ancient Israel.

sorry dumbass but the land was called PALESTINE for much longer than it was called Isael or Judea or Judah.

Palestine from 135 ad to 1948 is more than 1,800 years.

Israel Judah and Judea for only 900 years/

so the correct and longest name is PALESTINE!!!!

now get back to the topic of peace talks antic which the zionists are doing right now by continuting the settlement buiding in the west bank.

Get it right, it was Judea and Samaria for 3000 years after Arab invaders changed its name to West Bank in 1948.

Another F.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judea_and_Samaria_Area

The area now usually referred to as the West Bank covers a portion of the territory designated by the biblical terms Judea and Samaria. Samaria corresponds to part of the ancient Kingdom of Israel, and Judea to part of the Kingdom of Judah, also known respectively as the Northern and the Southern Kingdoms. After the fall of the Northern Kingdom (720 BCE), Israel was renamed Samaria (Shomron), and during the Hellenistic and Roman periods the name Judah was hellenized to Judea. In modern times, Samaria was the name of one of the administrative districts of the British Mandate of Palestine. United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181 (II) Future Government of Palestine, adopted in 1947, referred to "Samaria and Judea" as part of a proposed Arab state to be carved out of the Mandate of Palestine but the boundaries of "Samaria and Judea" did not precisely coincide with the current Judea and Samaria Area. After the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, Trans-Jordan, renamed Jordan in 1949, renamed the area on the west bank under its control following the cessation of hostilities the "West Bank" (Arabic: الضفة الغربية aḍ-Ḍaffah l-Ġarbiyyah) to distinguish it from the rest of the kingdom, which falls on the Jordan River’s east bank. The area was captured from Jordan by Israel in the 1967 Six-Day War. While the term "Judea and Samaria" was officially adopted by the Israel in 1967 it was not used extensively until 1977.[2]
The name Judea, when used in Judea and Samaria, refers to all of the region south of Jerusalem, including Gush Etzion and Har Hebron. The region of Samaria, on the other hand, refers to the area north of Jerusalem. East Jerusalem has been incorporated into Jerusalem District and is under Israeli civilian rule. That part of the West Bank is thus excluded from the administrative structure that is the Judea and Samaria Area.

 

[Roudy]

Please...do you have to resort to name calling? Bottom line...arabs squatted on land that wasn't theirs, the rightful owners kicked their butts out and now they're throwing a hissy fit because the evil Jews won't play nice.

how can you "squat" on land for 1,300 years??????????????

Because they didn't. The Palestinians are neghhbroing Arabs who invaded the land in the last 150 years.

 

[toastman]

Yup, Palestinians are actually Syrians, Jordanians and Egyptians. Some are even Lebanese. The word 'Palestinian' is one of the greatest inventions of the 20th century.

 

[Roudy]

Yup, Palestinians are actually Syrians, Jordanians and Egyptians. Some are even Lebanese. The word 'Palestinian' is one of the greatest inventions of the 20th century.

You mean one of the biggest frauds ever perpetrated on mankind.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

This thread is very entertaining!

 

[Gardener]

Yup, Palestinians are actually Syrians, Jordanians and Egyptians. Some are even Lebanese. The word 'Palestinian' is one of the greatest inventions of the 20th century.

no "Israeli" is the biggest fraud of mankind.

they are not from israel. most are from europe!!!!

this and other zionist lies is why peace talks always fail.

 

[Gardener]

Because they didn't. The Palestinians are neghhbroing Arabs who invaded the land in the last 150 years.

debunked lies. most palestinians have a long history in palestine.

much longer than the history ofthe ziuonists!!!!

this is wh the peace talks fail cause all the israelis can do is lie and deceit!!

 

[Gardener]

Get it right, it was Judea and Samaria for 3000 years after Arab invaders changed its name to West Bank in 1948.

wrong again it was called Palestine for 2000 years!!!!!

the romans changed the name in ad 135 and the name has been palestine for 2,000 years!!!

why do ou think it was caled "paleastine" by the british?

 

[toastman]

Because they didn't. The Palestinians are neghhbroing Arabs who invaded the land in the last 150 years.

debunked lies. most palestinians have a long history in palestine.

much longer than the history ofthe ziuonists!!!!

this is wh the peace talks fail cause all the israelis can do is lie and deceit!!

Care to provide demographic proof that the Arab living today in the West Bank and Gaza are the same ones that were her centuries ago ?

 

[Gardener]

Care to provide demographic proof that the Arab living today in the West Bank and Gaza are the same ones that were her centuries ago ?

more thna happy to!!!!

From Time Immemorial - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Demographics of Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Whether there was significant Arab immigration into Palestine after the beginning of Jewish settlement there in the late 19th century has become a matter of some controversy. According to Martin Gilbert, 50,000 Arabs immigrated to Mandatory Palestine from the neighboring lands between 1919 and 1939 "attracted by the improving agricultural conditions and growing job opportunities, most of them created by the Jews".[29]

The overall assessment of several British reports was that the increase in the Arab population was primarily due to natural increase.[30][31] These included the Hope Simpson report (1930),[32] the Passfield White Paper (1930)[33] the Peel Commission report (1937)[34] and the Survey of Palestine (1945).[35] The 1931 census of Palestine considered the question of illegal immigration since the previous census in 1922.[36] It estimated that unrecorded immigration during that period may have amounted to 9,000 Jews and 4,000 Arabs

 

[toastman]

Care to provide demographic proof that the Arab living today in the West Bank and Gaza are the same ones that were her centuries ago ?

more thna happy to!!!!

From Time Immemorial - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Demographics of Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Whether there was significant Arab immigration into Palestine after the beginning of Jewish settlement there in the late 19th century has become a matter of some controversy. According to Martin Gilbert, 50,000 Arabs immigrated to Mandatory Palestine from the neighboring lands between 1919 and 1939 "attracted by the improving agricultural conditions and growing job opportunities, most of them created by the Jews".[29]

The overall assessment of several British reports was that the increase in the Arab population was primarily due to natural increase.[30][31] These included the Hope Simpson report (1930),[32] the Passfield White Paper (1930)[33] the Peel Commission report (1937)[34] and the Survey of Palestine (1945).[35] The 1931 census of Palestine considered the question of illegal immigration since the previous census in 1922.[36] It estimated that unrecorded immigration during that period may have amounted to 9,000 Jews and 4,000 Arabs

Except, you said theyve been living there for 1800 years
where the evidence of that

 

[Gardener]

Except, you said theyve been living there for 1800 years
where the evidence of that

no change in growth rates means no rwason to think othwerise.

there is no proof that the arabs of palestyine are all have recent immigrant ancestors!!!

 

[Roudy]

Majority of Israelis today are from Middle Eastern ancestry, who according to genetics are related to their European counterparts. The fact that Israel is ancient Jewish land is evidenced in the hundreds of thousands of artifacts and archeological sites that exist in Israel. Arabs have no real history in Israel. Generally speaking, the term ARAB comes from Saudi Arabia. Arabs invaded lands, and after looting and raping everything in sight, shoved Islam down people's throats.

 

[Roudy]

Get it right, it was Judea and Samaria for 3000 years after Arab invaders changed its name to West Bank in 1948.

wrong again it was called Palestine for 2000 years!!!!!

the romans changed the name in ad 135 and the name has been palestine for 2,000 years!!!

why do ou think it was caled "paleastine" by the british?

Yet your own map of the Ottoman Empire 200 years ago showed it as Southern Syria, and there was no mention of the word Palestine on it. Strange how you keep shoving your foot in your mouth.

 

[Roudy]

Because they didn't. The Palestinians are neghhbroing Arabs who invaded the land in the last 150 years.

debunked lies. most palestinians have a long history in palestine.

much longer than the history ofthe ziuonists!!!!

this is wh the peace talks fail cause all the israelis can do is lie and deceit!!

Link?

 

[Gardener]

Link?

i pposted two links my friend.

 

[Roudy]

Get it right, it was Judea and Samaria for 3000 years after Arab invaders changed its name to West Bank in 1948.

wrong again it was called Palestine for 2000 years!!!!!

the romans changed the name in ad 135 and the name has been palestine for 2,000 years!!!

why do ou think it was caled "paleastine" by the british?

Arabs didn't call themselves Palestinian until the 1960's. Since the Roman times, Palestinian meant JEWS. How does a people become "ancient" by changing their name in 1960? Ha ha ha. That's what Arabs do, they invade lands, take over their identity, and then take credit for their history and achievements. Nothing new. They've done that many times in history.

 

[Roudy]

Link?

i pposted two links my friend.

Showing Arab Palestinian history? You didn't post it because it doesn't exist. There has never been a Palestinian people, state, capital, ruler, currency, culture, food, separate language, etc in history. Palestinians are a made up people and identity who's name was hijacked by Egyptian born terrorist Yasser Arafat.

 

[José]

Originally posted by Roudy
Majority of Israelis today are from Middle Eastern ancestry, who according to genetics are related to their European counterparts.

"Genetic studies" that are worth less than the toilet paper I used to wipe my ass this morning.

No one needs any "genetic studies" to realize that bunch of russian, ukrainian and german albinos are about as semitic as Queen Elizabeth of England.

Just a pair of functional eyes.

 

[Roudy]

wrong again it was called Palestine for 2000 years!!!!!

the romans changed the name in ad 135 and the name has been palestine for 2,000 years!!!

why do ou think it was caled "paleastine" by the british?

Arabs didn't call themselves Palestinian until the 1960's. Since the Roman times, Palestinian meant JEWS. How does a people become "ancient" by changing their name in 1960? Ha ha ha. That's what Arabs do, they invade lands, take over their identity, and then take credit for their history and achievements. Nothing new. They've done that many times in history.

did you see his post where he said the Palestinians rebuilt Jerusalem

Oh ya, Muslims, a bunch of savage invaders and thugs who were known to destroy everything they touched, much like the Mongols. REBUILT:

CAMERA: BACKGROUNDER: History of Jerusalem

Upon its capture by the Arab Legion, the Jewish Quarter of the Old City was destroyed and its residents expelled. Fifty-eight synagogues—some hundreds of years old—were destroyed, their contents looted and desecrated. Some Jewish religious sites were turned into chicken coops or animal stalls. The Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives, where Jews had been burying their dead for over 2500 years, was ransacked; graves were desecrated; thousands of tombstones were smashed and used as building material, paving stones or for latrines in Arab Legion army camps. The Intercontinental Hotel was built on top of the cemetery and graves were demolished to make way for a highway to the hotel. The Western Wall became a slum area.
In direct contravention of the 1949 armistice agreements, Jordan did not permit Jews access to their holy sites or to the Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives.

Article VIII of the Israel Jordan Armistice Agreement (April 3, 1949) established a special committee which would “direct its attention to the formulation of agreed plans and arrangements” including “free access to the Holy Places and cultural institutions and use of the cemetery on the Mount of Olives.” Nevertheless, and despite numerous requests by Israeli officials and Jewish groups to the UN, the U.S., and others to attempt to enforce the armistice agreement, Jews were denied access to the Western Wall, the Jewish cemetery and all religious sites in eastern Jerusalem. The armistice lines were sealed as Jordanian snipers would perch on the walls of the Old City and shoot at Israelis across the lines.

Israeli Arabs, too, were denied access to the Al Aqsa mosque and the Dome of the Rock, but their Muslim sites in eastern Jerusalem were respected.

While Christians, unlike Jews, were allowed access to their holy sites, they too were subject to restrictions under Jordanian law. There were limits on the numbers of Christian pilgrims permitted into the Old City and Bethlehem during Christmas and Easter. Christian charities and religious institutions were prohibited from buying real estate in Jerusalem or owning property near holy sites. And Christian schools were subject to strict controls. They were required to teach in Arabic, close on Friday, the Muslim holy day, and teach all students the Koran. At the same time, they were not allowed to teach Christian religious material to non-Christians.