Passover to Exodus, let the story be told

[surada]

There wasn't 3 million Jews.
They numbered in the thousands at the most.

(Gen 47:1 KJV) Then Joseph came and told Pharaoh, and said, My father [ISRAEL] and my brethren, and their flocks, and their herds, and all that they have, are come out of the land of Canaan; and, behold, they are in the land of Goshen.
(Gen 47:3 KJV) And Pharaoh said unto his brethren, What is your occupation? And they said unto Pharaoh, Thy servants are shepherds, both we, and also our fathers.
(Gen 47:5 KJV) And Pharaoh spake unto Joseph, saying, Thy father [ISRAEL] and thy brethren are come unto thee:
(Gen 47:6 KJV) The land of Egypt is before thee; in the best of the land make thy father and brethren to dwell; in the land of Goshen let them dwell: and if thou knowest any men of activity among them, then make them rulers over my cattle.

Three million shepherds-- I think not -

Three million Jews plus their herds.

 

[tyroneweaver]

His mother was a Jew. She put Moses in the river in a basket.

The only way Moses could officiate in priestly offices was to be a Levite.

 

[surada]

The only way Moses could officiate in priestly offices was to be a Levite.

Thanks. I forgot.

 

[rylah]

The reality is that these clay tablets are a thousand years older than the emergence of the Hebrews.

So if they're a thousand years older,
does it discredit or confirm their validity?

 

[rylah]

They have found thousands of tablets in Bahrain that document trade with Babylon and carry the Gilgamesh Myth as well.

And your conclusion from this,
that accounts commonly shared by the rest of humanity,
should be dismissed from historic context, because they're preserved by the Hebrews?

 

[surada]

And your conclusion from this,
that accounts commonly shared by the rest of humanity,
should be dismissed from historic context, because they're preserved by the Hebrews?

The tablets predate the Jewish stories by a thousand years and are found in Bahrain and the Ugarit tablets as well as ancient Sumer. Samuel Noah Kramer spent 50 years translating them.

 

[surada]

So if they're a thousand years older,
does it discredit or confirm their validity?

Ask the Israeli scholars who are studying the Ugarit tablets

 

[rylah]

The tablets predate the Jewish stories by a thousand years and are found in Bahrain and the Ugarit tablets as well as ancient Sumer. Samuel Noah Kramer spent 50 years translating them.

And does that invalidate or confirm, the historic context of the Hebrew account?

 

[surada]

And does that invalidate or confirm, the historic context of the Hebrew account?

There is no evidence for the exodus.

 

[rylah]

Ask the Israeli scholars who are studying the Ugarit tablets

Nice deflection.

I'm asking you...a simple question
that you seem to lack the intellectual integrity to address.

 

[rylah]

There is no evidence for the exodus.

Of course there is,
but you only bait and switch
because you can't address the original question.

 

[surada]

Of course there is,
but you only bait and switch
because you can't address the original question.

Nope. Rabbis know that at best it's a mythic exaggeration. When there was famine and drought everyone walked to the Nile Delta. But the total population of Egypt was less than 5 million people. The Jews didn't build the pyramids. Sinai belonged to the Egyptians. The Canaanites who lived there were protected by Egyptian garrisons and paid tribute to the pharaohs. Even today Sinai has a population of only 800 thousand.

 

[surada]

For you were (not) slaves in Egypt: The ancient memories behind the Exodus myth

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www.haaretz.com

 

[rylah]

Nope. Rabbis know that at best it's a mythic exaggeration. When there was famine and drought everyone walked to the Nile Delta. But the total population of Egypt was less than 5 million people. The Jews didn't build the pyramids. Sinai belonged to the Egyptians. The Canaanites who lived there were protected by Egyptian garrisons and paid tribute to the pharaohs. Even today Sinai has a population of only 800 thousand.

So you can't address my question
but sure to know what "Rabbis know..."

I think mythic exaggeration best describes your reasoning skills.

 

[rylah]

For you were (not) slaves in Egypt: The ancient memories behind the Exodus myth

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www.haaretz.com

Yeah, if you can find a link on the web,
there's nothing else to know.

Were Hebrews ever slaves in ancient Egypt? Yes

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www.haaretz.com

 

[AsherN]

Nope. Rabbis know that at best it's a mythic exaggeration. When there was famine and drought everyone walked to the Nile Delta. But the total population of Egypt was less than 5 million people. The Jews didn't build the pyramids. Sinai belonged to the Egyptians. The Canaanites who lived there were protected by Egyptian garrisons and paid tribute to the pharaohs. Even today Sinai has a population of only 800 thousand.

We don't claim Jews built the pyramids. Torah is clear, Jews built the store cities of Pithom and Rameses.

 

[fncceo]

why didn’t the warn others who were not Jews?

Speaking of ... I hope you didn't make plans for the weekend.

 

[irosie91]

There is no evidence for the exodus.

try again----the historic account is the evidence.
You do raise an interesting point----is there physical
evidence for Gilgamesh which "historians" believe
predated and influenced the ILIAD-------the
scriptural account of the real Troy

 

[watchingfromafar]

Exodus is probably an epic exaggeration of what happened. Most scholars think the Jews separated from the north coast Canaanites in Syria and that Abraham was from Urfa near Haran.

And it came to pass in those days, when Moses was grown, that he went out to his brothers, and looked on their burdens: and he spied an Egyptian smiting an Hebrew, one of his brothers. And he looked this way and that way, and when he saw that there was no man, he slew the Egyptian, and hid him in the sand. And when he went out the second day, behold, two men of the Hebrews strove together: and he said to him that did the wrong, Why smite you your fellow?

The Egyptians were treating the Jews as fellow Egyptians.

Now when Pharaoh heard this thing, he sought to slay Moses. But Moses fled from the face of Pharaoh, and dwelled in the land of Midian: and he sat down by a well. Moses and all the others flee Egypt and are scattered throughout the land.

Exodus 2:11 One day, after Moses had grown up, he went out to his own people and observed their hard labor. He saw an Egyptian beating a Hebrew, one of his own people.
The Pharaoh sought to punish Moses for the killing but Moses fled, taking all his fellow Jews with him.
The above marks the beginning of the great exodus. The Jews were not slaves, the Jews ruled over Egypt and they fled because Moses murders a man in cold blood.
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[watchingfromafar]

Speaking of ... I hope you didn't make plans for the weekend.

spelling correction
"why didn’t they warn others who were not Jews?"
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