Palestinians: 10,000 years ago, since Abraham or since the Mandate for Palestine?

( This is the best explanation one can find about what happened to all the Canaanite tribes which lived in Canaan and what happened to them)

Are Canaanites Arabs?

TL;DR: No. “Canaanite” is not a specific ethnicity, but a label for peoples who lived in Canaan in ancient times. Canaan is another name for the Levant, which is another name for the region that came to be known (after the Roman Conquest) as Palestine. Arabs came from Arabia. It is more accurate to say that most of the surviving people of Canaanite genetic extraction were “Arabized” during the Arab Conquests of the 7th century, not the other way around.

According to Biblical accounts, there were seven, separate ancient Canaanite nations, in addition to the Jews, who were also genetically Canaanite: secular scholars once thought these ”Canaanite nations” were fictitious and mythical, until archeological evidence began turning up regarding the formerly-unknown (except in the Bible) Hittite nation. Most scholars now agree there were in fact several different “nations” (ethnic groups) co-existing in the same territory known as Canaan during the late Bronze Age. People back then did not have the concept of the modern nation-state as we do now; instead, there were numerous independent city-states, of various different ethnicities, none of which had exclusive control over the entire territory known as Canaan. In addition, nomadic herding peoples traveled in and out of the region freely, interspersed among the settled cities of the various nations. All of these people could be considered “Canaanites” in the sense that they lived in Canaan.

The Jews are the only indigenous Canaanite people who retain their culture in a continuous, unbroken line from ancient times until today.

Arabs come from Arabia. During the great expansion of Islam (also known as the Arab Conquest) led by Mohammed’s followers in the 7th century C.E., Arab Muslims from Arabia spread out to invade and conquer (in the name of Islam, which was, especially then, both a political system and a religion) most of the Levant, Mesopotamia, North Africa, and so on. The peoples of those places — that is, the non-Arab nations who lived there previously — found their indigenous cultures were suppressed, and they were assimilated into the “Arab (Muslim) nation,” abandoning (for the most part) their native languages, religions, and cultures, and adopting the Arabic language, Muslim religion, and Arab culture instead.

There were, of course, exceptions. Many Christians and Jews in those regions under the Arab Conquest retained their previous religion. A few retained their indigenous languages, among them Hebrew, Amharic, Aramaic, and so on.

But, there are no modern “Canaanites.” That collection of ethnicities became extinct, except for the Jews, even before the Roman conquest of Judea (the Jewish kingdom that arose in Canaan) had occurred. The people of what is now Lebanon had become Hellenized (Greek culture) after Alexander’s conquest in the 4th century B.C.E. — speaking Greek, worshiping the Greek gods, and so on — and then became Greek-cultured, Hellenic Christians after the rise of Gentile (Greek) Christianity in the eastern Mediterranean under the apostle Paul. This they remained, until the Muslim conquest in the 7th century, when some of them remained Christian, and some converted to Islam. And, of course, a portion of the Jews, who remained Jewish, continued to live in the Levant — in “Canaan” — as well, though most of their fellow Jews had been exiled to other lands by the Roman conquest around the turn of the common era.

Genes tell part of the story, but not the whole story. Ethnicity is mostly a matter of culture, not genes. And there are no “Canaanites” today. Except, that is, for the Jews, who are and always were a people of Canaan, and who still pursue an unbroken continuation of the ancient culture they held to back then.




From your link.

YES YES YES they are one of many ancient Arabs tribes . They are also known Phoenicians who migrated from south east Arabia Dilmun ( modern day Bahrain ) ,Circum-Arabian Nomadic Pastoral Complex , which means they moved due to climate crises around 6,200 BC of the hot desert ( Jarius Zarins )The are Arab people families till this day with the surnames Canaan , not found in Israel or Europe .
Yes, that is what Selim Al Rashid would say from Qora.
But is it true?
Did you read any of the other answers?

Who is Rashid, and where did he get that answer? What was his source?

The Rashidi are a very old and prominent tribe from Arabia.

What he wrote is common knowledge.. The big lie is a land without people for a people without land. Why do you think the European Zionists destroyed over 300 Arab villages in 1948 and 67 Druze villages in 1967?
When did the Rashidi Arab tribe arrive from Arabia?

And I continue to ask about tribes which lived in Canaan before the Muslim invasion of the 7th century.

Did they retain their identity? Their culture, as the Jewish people did?
 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
"The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique."

Why can't that uniqueness be found in the last 5000 to 10,000 years.
Why did it develop only after the Mandate for Palestine for the re creation of the Jewish Nation ON their Jewish homeland?

How would you know? The Jews arrived in Palestine from Germany, Poland, Russia etc. Most of them didn't speak Hebrew either.
Who knows what people look like after 1,000 years of a different climate, diet and being raped by Europeans?
 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
Jews are a Ethnicity besides a religion.

Being Arab is also a Ethnicity.


Different Ethnicities.

The Jews were never referred to as Arab Jews until recently.

Iraqi Jews
Syrian Jews
Iranian Jews
Lebanese Jews
Moroccan Jews
Egyptian Jews
Lybian Jews
etc

Iraqi Christians
Syrian Christians
Iranian Christians
Lebanese Christians
etc

LOLOL. Did you know that Arab Christians and Arab Jews call God Allah?

Have you been anywhere in the Middle East?
An Arab Jew is probably assimilated because my son-in-laws grandparents are from Turkey and never called Hashem Allah.
On the other hand, we know you get your bullshit from Arab sites.
 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
Jews are a Ethnicity besides a religion.

Being Arab is also a Ethnicity.


Different Ethnicities.

The Jews were never referred to as Arab Jews until recently.

Iraqi Jews
Syrian Jews
Iranian Jews
Lebanese Jews
Moroccan Jews
Egyptian Jews
Lybian Jews
etc

Iraqi Christians
Syrian Christians
Iranian Christians
Lebanese Christians
etc

LOLOL. Did you know that Arab Christians and Arab Jews call God Allah?

Have you been anywhere in the Middle East?
An Arab Jew is probably assimilated because my son-in-laws grandparents are from Turkey and never called Hashem Allah.
On the other hand, we know you get your bullshit from Arab sites.

I know nothing about the Turkish language and rarely use any Arab sites. Allah is God in Arabic like French ,Spanish, Italian and German have a word for God.

Don't you feel stupid?
 
( This is the best explanation one can find about what happened to all the Canaanite tribes which lived in Canaan and what happened to them)

Are Canaanites Arabs?

TL;DR: No. “Canaanite” is not a specific ethnicity, but a label for peoples who lived in Canaan in ancient times. Canaan is another name for the Levant, which is another name for the region that came to be known (after the Roman Conquest) as Palestine. Arabs came from Arabia. It is more accurate to say that most of the surviving people of Canaanite genetic extraction were “Arabized” during the Arab Conquests of the 7th century, not the other way around.

According to Biblical accounts, there were seven, separate ancient Canaanite nations, in addition to the Jews, who were also genetically Canaanite: secular scholars once thought these ”Canaanite nations” were fictitious and mythical, until archeological evidence began turning up regarding the formerly-unknown (except in the Bible) Hittite nation. Most scholars now agree there were in fact several different “nations” (ethnic groups) co-existing in the same territory known as Canaan during the late Bronze Age. People back then did not have the concept of the modern nation-state as we do now; instead, there were numerous independent city-states, of various different ethnicities, none of which had exclusive control over the entire territory known as Canaan. In addition, nomadic herding peoples traveled in and out of the region freely, interspersed among the settled cities of the various nations. All of these people could be considered “Canaanites” in the sense that they lived in Canaan.

The Jews are the only indigenous Canaanite people who retain their culture in a continuous, unbroken line from ancient times until today.

Arabs come from Arabia. During the great expansion of Islam (also known as the Arab Conquest) led by Mohammed’s followers in the 7th century C.E., Arab Muslims from Arabia spread out to invade and conquer (in the name of Islam, which was, especially then, both a political system and a religion) most of the Levant, Mesopotamia, North Africa, and so on. The peoples of those places — that is, the non-Arab nations who lived there previously — found their indigenous cultures were suppressed, and they were assimilated into the “Arab (Muslim) nation,” abandoning (for the most part) their native languages, religions, and cultures, and adopting the Arabic language, Muslim religion, and Arab culture instead.

There were, of course, exceptions. Many Christians and Jews in those regions under the Arab Conquest retained their previous religion. A few retained their indigenous languages, among them Hebrew, Amharic, Aramaic, and so on.

But, there are no modern “Canaanites.” That collection of ethnicities became extinct, except for the Jews, even before the Roman conquest of Judea (the Jewish kingdom that arose in Canaan) had occurred. The people of what is now Lebanon had become Hellenized (Greek culture) after Alexander’s conquest in the 4th century B.C.E. — speaking Greek, worshiping the Greek gods, and so on — and then became Greek-cultured, Hellenic Christians after the rise of Gentile (Greek) Christianity in the eastern Mediterranean under the apostle Paul. This they remained, until the Muslim conquest in the 7th century, when some of them remained Christian, and some converted to Islam. And, of course, a portion of the Jews, who remained Jewish, continued to live in the Levant — in “Canaan” — as well, though most of their fellow Jews had been exiled to other lands by the Roman conquest around the turn of the common era.

Genes tell part of the story, but not the whole story. Ethnicity is mostly a matter of culture, not genes. And there are no “Canaanites” today. Except, that is, for the Jews, who are and always were a people of Canaan, and who still pursue an unbroken continuation of the ancient culture they held to back then.




From your link.

YES YES YES they are one of many ancient Arabs tribes . They are also known Phoenicians who migrated from south east Arabia Dilmun ( modern day Bahrain ) ,Circum-Arabian Nomadic Pastoral Complex , which means they moved due to climate crises around 6,200 BC of the hot desert ( Jarius Zarins )The are Arab people families till this day with the surnames Canaan , not found in Israel or Europe .
Yes, that is what Selim Al Rashid would say from Qora.
But is it true?
Did you read any of the other answers?

Who is Rashid, and where did he get that answer? What was his source?

The Rashidi are a very old and prominent tribe from Arabia.

What he wrote is common knowledge.. The big lie is a land without people for a people without land. Why do you think the European Zionists destroyed over 300 Arab villages in 1948 and 67 Druze villages in 1967?
When did the Rashidi Arab tribe arrive from Arabia?

And I continue to ask about tribes which lived in Canaan before the Muslim invasion of the 7th century.

Did they retain their identity? Their culture, as the Jewish people did?

Sargon 2 names the Arab tribes he settled in Samaria circa 700 BC.
 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
Jews are a Ethnicity besides a religion.

Being Arab is also a Ethnicity.


Different Ethnicities.

The Jews were never referred to as Arab Jews until recently.

Iraqi Jews
Syrian Jews
Iranian Jews
Lebanese Jews
Moroccan Jews
Egyptian Jews
Lybian Jews
etc

Iraqi Christians
Syrian Christians
Iranian Christians
Lebanese Christians
etc

LOLOL. Did you know that Arab Christians and Arab Jews call God Allah?

Have you been anywhere in the Middle East?
An Arab Jew is probably assimilated because my son-in-laws grandparents are from Turkey and never called Hashem Allah.
On the other hand, we know you get your bullshit from Arab sites.

I know nothing about the Turkish language and rarely use any Arab sites. Allah is God in Arabic like French ,Spanish, Italian and German have a word for God.

Don't you feel stupid?
I don't feel stupid because everyone here already knows that 99% of what you post comes with no Link.
 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
"The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique."

Why can't that uniqueness be found in the last 5000 to 10,000 years.
Why did it develop only after the Mandate for Palestine for the re creation of the Jewish Nation ON their Jewish homeland?

How would you know? The Jews arrived in Palestine from Germany, Poland, Russia etc. Most of them didn't speak Hebrew either.
Who knows what people look like after 1,000 years of a different climate, diet and being raped by Europeans?

Who are these Europeans raping for 1000 years?
 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
"The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique."

Why can't that uniqueness be found in the last 5000 to 10,000 years.
Why did it develop only after the Mandate for Palestine for the re creation of the Jewish Nation ON their Jewish homeland?

How would you know? The Jews arrived in Palestine from Germany, Poland, Russia etc. Most of them didn't speak Hebrew either.
Who knows what people look like after 1,000 years of a different climate, diet and being raped by Europeans?

Who are these Europeans raping for 1000 years?
Thanks for admitting you have never studied European history.
What the hell so you think happened during the Crusades and when Russians were bored?
Where the hell have you been for 85 years?
 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
Jews are a Ethnicity besides a religion.

Being Arab is also a Ethnicity.


Different Ethnicities.

The Jews were never referred to as Arab Jews until recently.

Iraqi Jews
Syrian Jews
Iranian Jews
Lebanese Jews
Moroccan Jews
Egyptian Jews
Lybian Jews
etc

Iraqi Christians
Syrian Christians
Iranian Christians
Lebanese Christians
etc

LOLOL. Did you know that Arab Christians and Arab Jews call God Allah?

Have you been anywhere in the Middle East?
An Arab Jew is probably assimilated because my son-in-laws grandparents are from Turkey and never called Hashem Allah.
On the other hand, we know you get your bullshit from Arab sites.

I know nothing about the Turkish language and rarely use any Arab sites. Allah is God in Arabic like French ,Spanish, Italian and German have a word for God.

Don't you feel stupid?
I don't feel stupid because everyone here already knows that 99% of what you post comes with no Link.

I don't need a link for everything I have learned in my lifetime.

Didn't you know Spanish, French, German and Italian had different words for God, or do you need a link for that?
 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
Jews are a Ethnicity besides a religion.

Being Arab is also a Ethnicity.


Different Ethnicities.

The Jews were never referred to as Arab Jews until recently.

Iraqi Jews
Syrian Jews
Iranian Jews
Lebanese Jews
Moroccan Jews
Egyptian Jews
Lybian Jews
etc

Iraqi Christians
Syrian Christians
Iranian Christians
Lebanese Christians
etc

LOLOL. Did you know that Arab Christians and Arab Jews call God Allah?

Have you been anywhere in the Middle East?
An Arab Jew is probably assimilated because my son-in-laws grandparents are from Turkey and never called Hashem Allah.
On the other hand, we know you get your bullshit from Arab sites.

I know nothing about the Turkish language and rarely use any Arab sites. Allah is God in Arabic like French ,Spanish, Italian and German have a word for God.

Don't you feel stupid?
I don't feel stupid because everyone here already knows that 99% of what you post comes with no Link.

I don't need a link for everything I have learned in my lifetime.

Didn't you know Spanish, French, German and Italian had different words for God, or do you need a link for that?
No shit.
What's the relevance?
My in-laws spoke 5 languages and my son-in-law speaks 4.
 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
"The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique."

Why can't that uniqueness be found in the last 5000 to 10,000 years.
Why did it develop only after the Mandate for Palestine for the re creation of the Jewish Nation ON their Jewish homeland?

How would you know? The Jews arrived in Palestine from Germany, Poland, Russia etc. Most of them didn't speak Hebrew either.
Who knows what people look like after 1,000 years of a different climate, diet and being raped by Europeans?

Who are these Europeans raping for 1000 years?
Thanks for admitting you have never studied European history.
What the hell so you think happened during the Crusades and when Russians were bored?
Where the hell have you been for 85 years?

Are you saying the Europeans have been raping Jews for a thousand years? What exactly are you talking about?

The Palestinians have mixed with Turks, Greeks. Romans and Crusaders over the past 2000 years and have 90% matching dna with Jews, Syrians and Lebanese.. Far moreso than with the Saudis or Gulf States.
 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
Jews are a Ethnicity besides a religion.

Being Arab is also a Ethnicity.


Different Ethnicities.

The Jews were never referred to as Arab Jews until recently.

Iraqi Jews
Syrian Jews
Iranian Jews
Lebanese Jews
Moroccan Jews
Egyptian Jews
Lybian Jews
etc

Iraqi Christians
Syrian Christians
Iranian Christians
Lebanese Christians
etc

LOLOL. Did you know that Arab Christians and Arab Jews call God Allah?

Have you been anywhere in the Middle East?
An Arab Jew is probably assimilated because my son-in-laws grandparents are from Turkey and never called Hashem Allah.
On the other hand, we know you get your bullshit from Arab sites.

I know nothing about the Turkish language and rarely use any Arab sites. Allah is God in Arabic like French ,Spanish, Italian and German have a word for God.

Don't you feel stupid?
I don't feel stupid because everyone here already knows that 99% of what you post comes with no Link.

I don't need a link for everything I have learned in my lifetime.

Didn't you know Spanish, French, German and Italian had different words for God, or do you need a link for that?
No shit.
What's the relevance?
My in-laws spoke 5 languages and my son-in-law speaks 4.

How nice.
 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
Jews are a Ethnicity besides a religion.

Being Arab is also a Ethnicity.


Different Ethnicities.

The Jews were never referred to as Arab Jews until recently.

Iraqi Jews
Syrian Jews
Iranian Jews
Lebanese Jews
Moroccan Jews
Egyptian Jews
Lybian Jews
etc

Iraqi Christians
Syrian Christians
Iranian Christians
Lebanese Christians
etc

LOLOL. Did you know that Arab Christians and Arab Jews call God Allah?

Have you been anywhere in the Middle East?
An Arab Jew is probably assimilated because my son-in-laws grandparents are from Turkey and never called Hashem Allah.
On the other hand, we know you get your bullshit from Arab sites.

I know nothing about the Turkish language and rarely use any Arab sites. Allah is God in Arabic like French ,Spanish, Italian and German have a word for God.

Don't you feel stupid?
We know that the word for god in Arabic is Allah. Most people know that.

What we are saying is that no Jews we know, from anywhere , including those who came from the Arab countries, have called their G_D, Allah.
 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
"The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique."

Why can't that uniqueness be found in the last 5000 to 10,000 years.
Why did it develop only after the Mandate for Palestine for the re creation of the Jewish Nation ON their Jewish homeland?

How would you know? The Jews arrived in Palestine from Germany, Poland, Russia etc. Most of them didn't speak Hebrew either.
Who knows what people look like after 1,000 years of a different climate, diet and being raped by Europeans?

Who are these Europeans raping for 1000 years?
Thanks for admitting you have never studied European history.
What the hell so you think happened during the Crusades and when Russians were bored?
Where the hell have you been for 85 years?

Are you saying the Europeans have been raping Jews for a thousand years? What exactly are you talking about?

The Palestinians have mixed with Turks, Greeks. Romans and Crusaders over the past 2000 years and have 90% matching dna with Jews, Syrians and Lebanese.. Far moreso than with the Saudis or Gulf States.
Fuck off, you dumb bitch.
You love to spout anti-Israel shit but ignore everything the Jews were subjected to for 1,000 years in the Eastern hemisphere.
 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
Jews are a Ethnicity besides a religion.

Being Arab is also a Ethnicity.


Different Ethnicities.

The Jews were never referred to as Arab Jews until recently.

Iraqi Jews
Syrian Jews
Iranian Jews
Lebanese Jews
Moroccan Jews
Egyptian Jews
Lybian Jews
etc

Iraqi Christians
Syrian Christians
Iranian Christians
Lebanese Christians
etc

LOLOL. Did you know that Arab Christians and Arab Jews call God Allah?

Have you been anywhere in the Middle East?
An Arab Jew is probably assimilated because my son-in-laws grandparents are from Turkey and never called Hashem Allah.
On the other hand, we know you get your bullshit from Arab sites.

I know nothing about the Turkish language and rarely use any Arab sites. Allah is God in Arabic like French ,Spanish, Italian and German have a word for God.

Don't you feel stupid?
We know that the word for god in Arabic is Allah. Most people know that.

What we are saying is that no Jews we know, from anywhere , including those who came from the Arab countries, have called their G_D, Allah.
surada has dementia.
 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
"The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique."

Why can't that uniqueness be found in the last 5000 to 10,000 years.
Why did it develop only after the Mandate for Palestine for the re creation of the Jewish Nation ON their Jewish homeland?

How would you know? The Jews arrived in Palestine from Germany, Poland, Russia etc. Most of them didn't speak Hebrew either.
Who knows what people look like after 1,000 years of a different climate, diet and being raped by Europeans?

Who are these Europeans raping for 1000 years?
Thanks for admitting you have never studied European history.
What the hell so you think happened during the Crusades and when Russians were bored?
Where the hell have you been for 85 years?

Are you saying the Europeans have been raping Jews for a thousand years? What exactly are you talking about?

The Palestinians have mixed with Turks, Greeks. Romans and Crusaders over the past 2000 years and have 90% matching dna with Jews, Syrians and Lebanese.. Far moreso than with the Saudis or Gulf States.
Arabs have mixed with Turks, Greeks, Jews, etc.

The 90% DNA is someone's invention to make it look like today's Arabs in Palestine are "family" with the Jews.
 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
"The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique."

Why can't that uniqueness be found in the last 5000 to 10,000 years.
Why did it develop only after the Mandate for Palestine for the re creation of the Jewish Nation ON their Jewish homeland?

How would you know? The Jews arrived in Palestine from Germany, Poland, Russia etc. Most of them didn't speak Hebrew either.
Who knows what people look like after 1,000 years of a different climate, diet and being raped by Europeans?

Who are these Europeans raping for 1000 years?
Thanks for admitting you have never studied European history.
What the hell so you think happened during the Crusades and when Russians were bored?
Where the hell have you been for 85 years?

Are you saying the Europeans have been raping Jews for a thousand years? What exactly are you talking about?

The Palestinians have mixed with Turks, Greeks. Romans and Crusaders over the past 2000 years and have 90% matching dna with Jews, Syrians and Lebanese.. Far moreso than with the Saudis or Gulf States.
Arabs have mixed with Turks, Greeks, Jews, etc.

The 90% DNA is someone's invention to make it look like today's Arabs in Palestine are "family" with the Jews.

Now there are Rashidi all over the ME. A lot of them left when Ibn Saud was king, but many others were invited to return because they were able administrators.

Dna studies have been done to death.. Arabs and Jews are brothers with Syrians and Lebanese .. and they are all related to Canaanites. Even the Torah says they are half brothers.

I don't know about Jews from Russia, Poland, Germany etc.. They may be farther removed.

Just to the casual observer Sepharic Jews look nothing like Ashkanazi..

Are you an Israeli or are you from Iran or Iraq?
 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
Jews are a Ethnicity besides a religion.

Being Arab is also a Ethnicity.


Different Ethnicities.

The Jews were never referred to as Arab Jews until recently.

Iraqi Jews
Syrian Jews
Iranian Jews
Lebanese Jews
Moroccan Jews
Egyptian Jews
Lybian Jews
etc

Iraqi Christians
Syrian Christians
Iranian Christians
Lebanese Christians
etc

LOLOL. Did you know that Arab Christians and Arab Jews call God Allah?

Have you been anywhere in the Middle East?
An Arab Jew is probably assimilated because my son-in-laws grandparents are from Turkey and never called Hashem Allah.
On the other hand, we know you get your bullshit from Arab sites.

I know nothing about the Turkish language and rarely use any Arab sites. Allah is God in Arabic like French ,Spanish, Italian and German have a word for God.

Don't you feel stupid?
We know that the word for god in Arabic is Allah. Most people know that.

What we are saying is that no Jews we know, from anywhere , including those who came from the Arab countries, have called their G_D, Allah.
surada has dementia.
The Muslims and Christians have been re writing history since 1948. Since 1973 they have been going about it this way:



That is two generations of people who are being influenced by Jew haters who are achieving positions of power, and all the literature and social media they can handle.

All she posts comes from this endless re writing of history designed to delegitimize Israel, through delegitimizing the Jews, and making the Arabs be part of ancient Canaan, where Arabs cannot and never will decide when Oh, WHEN, did any Arab ever migrate to that area.

The proof of Palestinian history in Palestine is all there....at the Palestinian Museum, for anyone to see.
 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
"The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique."

Why can't that uniqueness be found in the last 5000 to 10,000 years.
Why did it develop only after the Mandate for Palestine for the re creation of the Jewish Nation ON their Jewish homeland?

How would you know? The Jews arrived in Palestine from Germany, Poland, Russia etc. Most of them didn't speak Hebrew either.
Who knows what people look like after 1,000 years of a different climate, diet and being raped by Europeans?

Who are these Europeans raping for 1000 years?
Thanks for admitting you have never studied European history.
What the hell so you think happened during the Crusades and when Russians were bored?
Where the hell have you been for 85 years?

Are you saying the Europeans have been raping Jews for a thousand years? What exactly are you talking about?

The Palestinians have mixed with Turks, Greeks. Romans and Crusaders over the past 2000 years and have 90% matching dna with Jews, Syrians and Lebanese.. Far moreso than with the Saudis or Gulf States.
Arabs have mixed with Turks, Greeks, Jews, etc.

The 90% DNA is someone's invention to make it look like today's Arabs in Palestine are "family" with the Jews.

Now there are Rashidi all over the ME. A lot of them left when Ibn Saud was king, but many others were invited to return because they were able administrators.

Dna studies have been done to death.. Arabs and Jews are brothers with Syrians and Lebanese .. and they are all related to Canaanites. Even the Torah says they are half brothers.

I don't know about Jews from Russia, Poland, Germany etc.. They may be farther removed.

Just to the casual observer Sepharic Jews look nothing like Ashkanazi..

Are you an Israeli or are you from Iran or Iraq?
Your Arab brethren have nothing to be proud of; the murders and rapes they committed on a continuous basis is embarrassing and I understand you don't want to know about the bloody past of your people.
Heck, AP News is reporting rebellions across the Arab world as the people are tired of their selfish leaders.
 
( This is the best explanation one can find about what happened to all the Canaanite tribes which lived in Canaan and what happened to them)

Are Canaanites Arabs?

TL;DR: No. “Canaanite” is not a specific ethnicity, but a label for peoples who lived in Canaan in ancient times. Canaan is another name for the Levant, which is another name for the region that came to be known (after the Roman Conquest) as Palestine. Arabs came from Arabia. It is more accurate to say that most of the surviving people of Canaanite genetic extraction were “Arabized” during the Arab Conquests of the 7th century, not the other way around.

According to Biblical accounts, there were seven, separate ancient Canaanite nations, in addition to the Jews, who were also genetically Canaanite: secular scholars once thought these ”Canaanite nations” were fictitious and mythical, until archeological evidence began turning up regarding the formerly-unknown (except in the Bible) Hittite nation. Most scholars now agree there were in fact several different “nations” (ethnic groups) co-existing in the same territory known as Canaan during the late Bronze Age. People back then did not have the concept of the modern nation-state as we do now; instead, there were numerous independent city-states, of various different ethnicities, none of which had exclusive control over the entire territory known as Canaan. In addition, nomadic herding peoples traveled in and out of the region freely, interspersed among the settled cities of the various nations. All of these people could be considered “Canaanites” in the sense that they lived in Canaan.

The Jews are the only indigenous Canaanite people who retain their culture in a continuous, unbroken line from ancient times until today.

Arabs come from Arabia. During the great expansion of Islam (also known as the Arab Conquest) led by Mohammed’s followers in the 7th century C.E., Arab Muslims from Arabia spread out to invade and conquer (in the name of Islam, which was, especially then, both a political system and a religion) most of the Levant, Mesopotamia, North Africa, and so on. The peoples of those places — that is, the non-Arab nations who lived there previously — found their indigenous cultures were suppressed, and they were assimilated into the “Arab (Muslim) nation,” abandoning (for the most part) their native languages, religions, and cultures, and adopting the Arabic language, Muslim religion, and Arab culture instead.

There were, of course, exceptions. Many Christians and Jews in those regions under the Arab Conquest retained their previous religion. A few retained their indigenous languages, among them Hebrew, Amharic, Aramaic, and so on.

But, there are no modern “Canaanites.” That collection of ethnicities became extinct, except for the Jews, even before the Roman conquest of Judea (the Jewish kingdom that arose in Canaan) had occurred. The people of what is now Lebanon had become Hellenized (Greek culture) after Alexander’s conquest in the 4th century B.C.E. — speaking Greek, worshiping the Greek gods, and so on — and then became Greek-cultured, Hellenic Christians after the rise of Gentile (Greek) Christianity in the eastern Mediterranean under the apostle Paul. This they remained, until the Muslim conquest in the 7th century, when some of them remained Christian, and some converted to Islam. And, of course, a portion of the Jews, who remained Jewish, continued to live in the Levant — in “Canaan” — as well, though most of their fellow Jews had been exiled to other lands by the Roman conquest around the turn of the common era.

Genes tell part of the story, but not the whole story. Ethnicity is mostly a matter of culture, not genes. And there are no “Canaanites” today. Except, that is, for the Jews, who are and always were a people of Canaan, and who still pursue an unbroken continuation of the ancient culture they held to back then.




From your link.

YES YES YES they are one of many ancient Arabs tribes . They are also known Phoenicians who migrated from south east Arabia Dilmun ( modern day Bahrain ) ,Circum-Arabian Nomadic Pastoral Complex , which means they moved due to climate crises around 6,200 BC of the hot desert ( Jarius Zarins )The are Arab people families till this day with the surnames Canaan , not found in Israel or Europe .
Yes, that is what Selim Al Rashid would say from Qora.
But is it true?
Did you read any of the other answers?

Who is Rashid, and where did he get that answer? What was his source?

The Rashidi are a very old and prominent tribe from Arabia.

What he wrote is common knowledge.. The big lie is a land without people for a people without land. Why do you think the European Zionists destroyed over 300 Arab villages in 1948 and 67 Druze villages in 1967?
When did the Rashidi Arab tribe arrive from Arabia?

And I continue to ask about tribes which lived in Canaan before the Muslim invasion of the 7th century.

Did they retain their identity? Their culture, as the Jewish people did?

Sargon 2 names the Arab tribes he settled in Samaria circa 700 BC.
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