Palestinians: 10,000 years ago, since Abraham or since the Mandate for Palestine?

This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
Jews are a Ethnicity besides a religion.

Being Arab is also a Ethnicity.


Different Ethnicities.

The Jews were never referred to as Arab Jews until recently.

Iraqi Jews
Syrian Jews
Iranian Jews
Lebanese Jews
Moroccan Jews
Egyptian Jews
Lybian Jews
etc

Iraqi Christians
Syrian Christians
Iranian Christians
Lebanese Christians
etc

LOLOL. Did you know that Arab Christians and Arab Jews call God Allah?

Have you been anywhere in the Middle East?
An Arab Jew is probably assimilated because my son-in-laws grandparents are from Turkey and never called Hashem Allah.
On the other hand, we know you get your bullshit from Arab sites.

I know nothing about the Turkish language and rarely use any Arab sites. Allah is God in Arabic like French ,Spanish, Italian and German have a word for God.

Don't you feel stupid?
We know that the word for god in Arabic is Allah. Most people know that.

What we are saying is that no Jews we know, from anywhere , including those who came from the Arab countries, have called their G_D, Allah.
surada has dementia.
The Muslims and Christians have been re writing history since 1948. Since 1973 they have been going about it this way:



That is two generations of people who are being influenced by Jew haters who are achieving positions of power, and all the literature and social media they can handle.

All she posts comes from this endless re writing of history designed to delegitimize Israel, through delegitimizing the Jews, and making the Arabs be part of ancient Canaan, where Arabs cannot and never will decide when Oh, WHEN, did any Arab ever migrate to that area.

The proof of Palestinian history in Palestine is all there....at the Palestinian Museum, for anyone to see.

Jews have been rewriting history since Genesis.

Arabs left the Arabian peninsula in waves more than 10,000 years ago..Have you studied the Akkadians or the Marsh Arabs?
You might want to read Samuel Noah Kramer or Gertrude Bell orWilfred Theisinger.
 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
"The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique."

Why can't that uniqueness be found in the last 5000 to 10,000 years.
Why did it develop only after the Mandate for Palestine for the re creation of the Jewish Nation ON their Jewish homeland?

How would you know? The Jews arrived in Palestine from Germany, Poland, Russia etc. Most of them didn't speak Hebrew either.
Who knows what people look like after 1,000 years of a different climate, diet and being raped by Europeans?

Who are these Europeans raping for 1000 years?
Thanks for admitting you have never studied European history.
What the hell so you think happened during the Crusades and when Russians were bored?
Where the hell have you been for 85 years?

Are you saying the Europeans have been raping Jews for a thousand years? What exactly are you talking about?

The Palestinians have mixed with Turks, Greeks. Romans and Crusaders over the past 2000 years and have 90% matching dna with Jews, Syrians and Lebanese.. Far moreso than with the Saudis or Gulf States.
Arabs have mixed with Turks, Greeks, Jews, etc.

The 90% DNA is someone's invention to make it look like today's Arabs in Palestine are "family" with the Jews.

Now there are Rashidi all over the ME. A lot of them left when Ibn Saud was king, but many others were invited to return because they were able administrators.

Dna studies have been done to death.. Arabs and Jews are brothers with Syrians and Lebanese .. and they are all related to Canaanites. Even the Torah says they are half brothers.

I don't know about Jews from Russia, Poland, Germany etc.. They may be farther removed.

Just to the casual observer Sepharic Jews look nothing like Ashkanazi..

Are you an Israeli or are you from Iran or Iraq?

I found the Rashidi clan

The Rasheed dynasty, also called Al Rasheed or the House of Rasheed(Arabic: آل رشيد‎ Āl Rashīd; pronounced [ʔæːl raˈʃiːd]), was a historic Arabian House or dynasty that existed in the Arabian Peninsula between 1836 and 1921. Its members were rulers of the Emirate of Ha'il and the most formidable enemies of the House of Saud, rulers of the Emirate of Nejd. They were centered in Ha'il, a city in northern Najd that derived its wealth from being on the route of the Hajj pilgrimage to Mecca, and was also a commercial center. The rulers of Ha'il were the sons of Abdullah bin Rashid, founder of the dynasty.

 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
Jews are a Ethnicity besides a religion.

Being Arab is also a Ethnicity.


Different Ethnicities.

The Jews were never referred to as Arab Jews until recently.

Iraqi Jews
Syrian Jews
Iranian Jews
Lebanese Jews
Moroccan Jews
Egyptian Jews
Lybian Jews
etc

Iraqi Christians
Syrian Christians
Iranian Christians
Lebanese Christians
etc

LOLOL. Did you know that Arab Christians and Arab Jews call God Allah?

Have you been anywhere in the Middle East?
An Arab Jew is probably assimilated because my son-in-laws grandparents are from Turkey and never called Hashem Allah.
On the other hand, we know you get your bullshit from Arab sites.

I know nothing about the Turkish language and rarely use any Arab sites. Allah is God in Arabic like French ,Spanish, Italian and German have a word for God.

Don't you feel stupid?
We know that the word for god in Arabic is Allah. Most people know that.

What we are saying is that no Jews we know, from anywhere , including those who came from the Arab countries, have called their G_D, Allah.
surada has dementia.
The Muslims and Christians have been re writing history since 1948. Since 1973 they have been going about it this way:



That is two generations of people who are being influenced by Jew haters who are achieving positions of power, and all the literature and social media they can handle.

All she posts comes from this endless re writing of history designed to delegitimize Israel, through delegitimizing the Jews, and making the Arabs be part of ancient Canaan, where Arabs cannot and never will decide when Oh, WHEN, did any Arab ever migrate to that area.

The proof of Palestinian history in Palestine is all there....at the Palestinian Museum, for anyone to see.

Jews have been rewriting history since Genesis.

Arabs left the Arabian peninsula in waves more than 10,000 years ago..Have you studied the Akkadians or the Marsh Arabs?
You might want to read Samuel Noah Kramer or Gertrude Bell orWilfred Theisinger.
And never a link.

Such disrespect for Jews that you would say that Jews re wrote history.

Where is the history written by each Canaanite tribe? They are out there, also written by those who conquered Canaan and Israel and Judea, again and again.
 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
Jews are a Ethnicity besides a religion.

Being Arab is also a Ethnicity.


Different Ethnicities.

The Jews were never referred to as Arab Jews until recently.

Iraqi Jews
Syrian Jews
Iranian Jews
Lebanese Jews
Moroccan Jews
Egyptian Jews
Lybian Jews
etc

Iraqi Christians
Syrian Christians
Iranian Christians
Lebanese Christians
etc

LOLOL. Did you know that Arab Christians and Arab Jews call God Allah?

Have you been anywhere in the Middle East?
An Arab Jew is probably assimilated because my son-in-laws grandparents are from Turkey and never called Hashem Allah.
On the other hand, we know you get your bullshit from Arab sites.

I know nothing about the Turkish language and rarely use any Arab sites. Allah is God in Arabic like French ,Spanish, Italian and German have a word for God.

Don't you feel stupid?
We know that the word for god in Arabic is Allah. Most people know that.

What we are saying is that no Jews we know, from anywhere , including those who came from the Arab countries, have called their G_D, Allah.
surada has dementia.
The Muslims and Christians have been re writing history since 1948. Since 1973 they have been going about it this way:



That is two generations of people who are being influenced by Jew haters who are achieving positions of power, and all the literature and social media they can handle.

All she posts comes from this endless re writing of history designed to delegitimize Israel, through delegitimizing the Jews, and making the Arabs be part of ancient Canaan, where Arabs cannot and never will decide when Oh, WHEN, did any Arab ever migrate to that area.

The proof of Palestinian history in Palestine is all there....at the Palestinian Museum, for anyone to see.

Jews have been rewriting history since Genesis.

Arabs left the Arabian peninsula in waves more than 10,000 years ago..Have you studied the Akkadians or the Marsh Arabs?
You might want to read Samuel Noah Kramer or Gertrude Bell orWilfred Theisinger.
Atheists hate God because they want to eat, drink and be merry.
I love it when you claim that some Arabs share DNA with Jews.
That happens when Arabs spend a few centuries raping Jewish women who have a full set of teeth.
 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
Jews are a Ethnicity besides a religion.

Being Arab is also a Ethnicity.


Different Ethnicities.

The Jews were never referred to as Arab Jews until recently.

Iraqi Jews
Syrian Jews
Iranian Jews
Lebanese Jews
Moroccan Jews
Egyptian Jews
Lybian Jews
etc

Iraqi Christians
Syrian Christians
Iranian Christians
Lebanese Christians
etc

LOLOL. Did you know that Arab Christians and Arab Jews call God Allah?

Have you been anywhere in the Middle East?
An Arab Jew is probably assimilated because my son-in-laws grandparents are from Turkey and never called Hashem Allah.
On the other hand, we know you get your bullshit from Arab sites.

I know nothing about the Turkish language and rarely use any Arab sites. Allah is God in Arabic like French ,Spanish, Italian and German have a word for God.

Don't you feel stupid?
We know that the word for god in Arabic is Allah. Most people know that.

What we are saying is that no Jews we know, from anywhere , including those who came from the Arab countries, have called their G_D, Allah.
surada has dementia.
The Muslims and Christians have been re writing history since 1948. Since 1973 they have been going about it this way:



That is two generations of people who are being influenced by Jew haters who are achieving positions of power, and all the literature and social media they can handle.

All she posts comes from this endless re writing of history designed to delegitimize Israel, through delegitimizing the Jews, and making the Arabs be part of ancient Canaan, where Arabs cannot and never will decide when Oh, WHEN, did any Arab ever migrate to that area.

The proof of Palestinian history in Palestine is all there....at the Palestinian Museum, for anyone to see.

Jews have been rewriting history since Genesis.

Arabs left the Arabian peninsula in waves more than 10,000 years ago..Have you studied the Akkadians or the Marsh Arabs?
You might want to read Samuel Noah Kramer or Gertrude Bell orWilfred Theisinger.
No information on Sargon II ?
 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
Jews are a Ethnicity besides a religion.

Being Arab is also a Ethnicity.


Different Ethnicities.

The Jews were never referred to as Arab Jews until recently.

Iraqi Jews
Syrian Jews
Iranian Jews
Lebanese Jews
Moroccan Jews
Egyptian Jews
Lybian Jews
etc

Iraqi Christians
Syrian Christians
Iranian Christians
Lebanese Christians
etc

LOLOL. Did you know that Arab Christians and Arab Jews call God Allah?

Have you been anywhere in the Middle East?
An Arab Jew is probably assimilated because my son-in-laws grandparents are from Turkey and never called Hashem Allah.
On the other hand, we know you get your bullshit from Arab sites.

I know nothing about the Turkish language and rarely use any Arab sites. Allah is God in Arabic like French ,Spanish, Italian and German have a word for God.

Don't you feel stupid?
We know that the word for god in Arabic is Allah. Most people know that.

What we are saying is that no Jews we know, from anywhere , including those who came from the Arab countries, have called their G_D, Allah.
surada has dementia.
The Muslims and Christians have been re writing history since 1948. Since 1973 they have been going about it this way:



That is two generations of people who are being influenced by Jew haters who are achieving positions of power, and all the literature and social media they can handle.

All she posts comes from this endless re writing of history designed to delegitimize Israel, through delegitimizing the Jews, and making the Arabs be part of ancient Canaan, where Arabs cannot and never will decide when Oh, WHEN, did any Arab ever migrate to that area.

The proof of Palestinian history in Palestine is all there....at the Palestinian Museum, for anyone to see.

Jews have been rewriting history since Genesis.

Arabs left the Arabian peninsula in waves more than 10,000 years ago..Have you studied the Akkadians or the Marsh Arabs?
You might want to read Samuel Noah Kramer or Gertrude Bell orWilfred Theisinger.
And never a link.

Such disrespect for Jews that you would say that Jews re wrote history.

Where is the history written by each Canaanite tribe? They are out there, also written by those who conquered Canaan and Israel and Judea, again and again.
Jews have a traceable history back to the Bible.
Even the Greeks and Romans interacted with the Jews.
 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
Jews are a Ethnicity besides a religion.

Being Arab is also a Ethnicity.


Different Ethnicities.

The Jews were never referred to as Arab Jews until recently.

Iraqi Jews
Syrian Jews
Iranian Jews
Lebanese Jews
Moroccan Jews
Egyptian Jews
Lybian Jews
etc

Iraqi Christians
Syrian Christians
Iranian Christians
Lebanese Christians
etc

LOLOL. Did you know that Arab Christians and Arab Jews call God Allah?

Have you been anywhere in the Middle East?
An Arab Jew is probably assimilated because my son-in-laws grandparents are from Turkey and never called Hashem Allah.
On the other hand, we know you get your bullshit from Arab sites.

I know nothing about the Turkish language and rarely use any Arab sites. Allah is God in Arabic like French ,Spanish, Italian and German have a word for God.

Don't you feel stupid?
We know that the word for god in Arabic is Allah. Most people know that.

What we are saying is that no Jews we know, from anywhere , including those who came from the Arab countries, have called their G_D, Allah.
surada has dementia.
The Muslims and Christians have been re writing history since 1948. Since 1973 they have been going about it this way:



That is two generations of people who are being influenced by Jew haters who are achieving positions of power, and all the literature and social media they can handle.

All she posts comes from this endless re writing of history designed to delegitimize Israel, through delegitimizing the Jews, and making the Arabs be part of ancient Canaan, where Arabs cannot and never will decide when Oh, WHEN, did any Arab ever migrate to that area.

The proof of Palestinian history in Palestine is all there....at the Palestinian Museum, for anyone to see.

Jews have been rewriting history since Genesis.

Arabs left the Arabian peninsula in waves more than 10,000 years ago..Have you studied the Akkadians or the Marsh Arabs?
You might want to read Samuel Noah Kramer or Gertrude Bell orWilfred Theisinger.
No information on Sargon II ?
Wasn't that a character on Classis Trek?
 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
Jews are a Ethnicity besides a religion.

Being Arab is also a Ethnicity.


Different Ethnicities.

The Jews were never referred to as Arab Jews until recently.

Iraqi Jews
Syrian Jews
Iranian Jews
Lebanese Jews
Moroccan Jews
Egyptian Jews
Lybian Jews
etc

Iraqi Christians
Syrian Christians
Iranian Christians
Lebanese Christians
etc

LOLOL. Did you know that Arab Christians and Arab Jews call God Allah?

Have you been anywhere in the Middle East?
An Arab Jew is probably assimilated because my son-in-laws grandparents are from Turkey and never called Hashem Allah.
On the other hand, we know you get your bullshit from Arab sites.

I know nothing about the Turkish language and rarely use any Arab sites. Allah is God in Arabic like French ,Spanish, Italian and German have a word for God.

Don't you feel stupid?
We know that the word for god in Arabic is Allah. Most people know that.

What we are saying is that no Jews we know, from anywhere , including those who came from the Arab countries, have called their G_D, Allah.
surada has dementia.
The Muslims and Christians have been re writing history since 1948. Since 1973 they have been going about it this way:



That is two generations of people who are being influenced by Jew haters who are achieving positions of power, and all the literature and social media they can handle.

All she posts comes from this endless re writing of history designed to delegitimize Israel, through delegitimizing the Jews, and making the Arabs be part of ancient Canaan, where Arabs cannot and never will decide when Oh, WHEN, did any Arab ever migrate to that area.

The proof of Palestinian history in Palestine is all there....at the Palestinian Museum, for anyone to see.

Jews have been rewriting history since Genesis.

Arabs left the Arabian peninsula in waves more than 10,000 years ago..Have you studied the Akkadians or the Marsh Arabs?
You might want to read Samuel Noah Kramer or Gertrude Bell orWilfred Theisinger.
Are you confusing Sumeria with Samaria?

Origin theories[edit]​

The origins of the Maʻdān are still a matter of some interest. British colonial ethnographers found it difficult to classify some of the Maʻdān's social customs and speculated that they might have originated in India.[13]

Many scholars have proposed historical and genetic links between the Marsh Arabs and the ancient Sumerians based on shared agricultural practices and methods of house-building and location. There is, however, no written record of the marsh tribes until the ninth century, and the Sumerians lost their distinct ethnic identity by around 1800 BCE, some 2700 years before.[14] Others, however, have noted that much of the culture of the Maʻdān is in fact shared with the desert bedouin who came to the area after the fall of the Abbasid Caliphate, and that it is therefore likely that they are descended from this source, at least in part.[15]

 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
Jews are a Ethnicity besides a religion.

Being Arab is also a Ethnicity.


Different Ethnicities.

The Jews were never referred to as Arab Jews until recently.

Iraqi Jews
Syrian Jews
Iranian Jews
Lebanese Jews
Moroccan Jews
Egyptian Jews
Lybian Jews
etc

Iraqi Christians
Syrian Christians
Iranian Christians
Lebanese Christians
etc

LOLOL. Did you know that Arab Christians and Arab Jews call God Allah?

Have you been anywhere in the Middle East?
An Arab Jew is probably assimilated because my son-in-laws grandparents are from Turkey and never called Hashem Allah.
On the other hand, we know you get your bullshit from Arab sites.

I know nothing about the Turkish language and rarely use any Arab sites. Allah is God in Arabic like French ,Spanish, Italian and German have a word for God.

Don't you feel stupid?
We know that the word for god in Arabic is Allah. Most people know that.

What we are saying is that no Jews we know, from anywhere , including those who came from the Arab countries, have called their G_D, Allah.
surada has dementia.
The Muslims and Christians have been re writing history since 1948. Since 1973 they have been going about it this way:



That is two generations of people who are being influenced by Jew haters who are achieving positions of power, and all the literature and social media they can handle.

All she posts comes from this endless re writing of history designed to delegitimize Israel, through delegitimizing the Jews, and making the Arabs be part of ancient Canaan, where Arabs cannot and never will decide when Oh, WHEN, did any Arab ever migrate to that area.

The proof of Palestinian history in Palestine is all there....at the Palestinian Museum, for anyone to see.

Jews have been rewriting history since Genesis.

Arabs left the Arabian peninsula in waves more than 10,000 years ago..Have you studied the Akkadians or the Marsh Arabs?
You might want to read Samuel Noah Kramer or Gertrude Bell orWilfred Theisinger.
Yes, it does look like you may be confusing Sumeria with Samaria:

The Akkadian Empire (/əˈkeɪdiən/)[4] was the first ancient empire of Mesopotamia after the long-lived civilization of Sumer. It was centered in the city of Akkad /ˈækæd/[5] and its surrounding region. The empire united Akkadian(Assyrian and Babylonian) and Sumerian speakers under one rule. The Akkadian Empire exercised influence across Mesopotamia, the Levant, and Anatolia, sending military expeditions as far south as Dilmun and Magan(modern Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Oman) in the Arabian Peninsula.[6]

During the 3rd millennium BC, there developed a cultural symbiosis between the Sumerians and the Akkadians, which included widespread bilingualism.[7]Akkadian, an East Semitic language,[8] gradually replaced Sumerian as a spoken language sometime between the end of the 3rd and the early 2nd millennia BC (the exact dating being a matter of debate).[9]

The Akkadian Empire reached its political peak between the 24th and 22nd centuries BC, following the conquests by its founder Sargon of Akkad.[10] Under Sargon and his successors, the Akkadian language was briefly imposed on neighboring conquered states such as Elam and Gutium. Akkad is sometimes regarded as the first empire in history, though the meaning of this term is not precise, and there are earlier Sumerian claimants.[11][12]

After the fall of the Akkadian Empire, the people of Mesopotamia eventually coalesced into two major Akkadian-speaking nations: Assyria in the north, and, a few centuries later, Babylonia in the south.

 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
Jews are a Ethnicity besides a religion.

Being Arab is also a Ethnicity.


Different Ethnicities.

The Jews were never referred to as Arab Jews until recently.

Iraqi Jews
Syrian Jews
Iranian Jews
Lebanese Jews
Moroccan Jews
Egyptian Jews
Lybian Jews
etc

Iraqi Christians
Syrian Christians
Iranian Christians
Lebanese Christians
etc

LOLOL. Did you know that Arab Christians and Arab Jews call God Allah?

Have you been anywhere in the Middle East?
An Arab Jew is probably assimilated because my son-in-laws grandparents are from Turkey and never called Hashem Allah.
On the other hand, we know you get your bullshit from Arab sites.

I know nothing about the Turkish language and rarely use any Arab sites. Allah is God in Arabic like French ,Spanish, Italian and German have a word for God.

Don't you feel stupid?
We know that the word for god in Arabic is Allah. Most people know that.

What we are saying is that no Jews we know, from anywhere , including those who came from the Arab countries, have called their G_D, Allah.
surada has dementia.
The Muslims and Christians have been re writing history since 1948. Since 1973 they have been going about it this way:



That is two generations of people who are being influenced by Jew haters who are achieving positions of power, and all the literature and social media they can handle.

All she posts comes from this endless re writing of history designed to delegitimize Israel, through delegitimizing the Jews, and making the Arabs be part of ancient Canaan, where Arabs cannot and never will decide when Oh, WHEN, did any Arab ever migrate to that area.

The proof of Palestinian history in Palestine is all there....at the Palestinian Museum, for anyone to see.

Jews have been rewriting history since Genesis.

Arabs left the Arabian peninsula in waves more than 10,000 years ago..Have you studied the Akkadians or the Marsh Arabs?
You might want to read Samuel Noah Kramer or Gertrude Bell orWilfred Theisinger.
1897-1990
(An Expert on Sumer, in Mesopotamia)

----------------
(Nothing about history of a Palestinian People )

1868-1926
----------------------
( Not an Archeologist, or historian. Lived amongst modern Arabs. H)

Amazon product
1910-2003
----------------

Not one of them seem to mention Palestinians as a People known at the time before the Mandate for Palestine

Arabs arrived in waves 10,000 years ago. But one cannot find one archeological evidence of any of each wave. Nor Historical.
 
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This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
Jews are a Ethnicity besides a religion.

Being Arab is also a Ethnicity.


Different Ethnicities.

The Jews were never referred to as Arab Jews until recently.

Iraqi Jews
Syrian Jews
Iranian Jews
Lebanese Jews
Moroccan Jews
Egyptian Jews
Lybian Jews
etc

Iraqi Christians
Syrian Christians
Iranian Christians
Lebanese Christians
etc

LOLOL. Did you know that Arab Christians and Arab Jews call God Allah?

Have you been anywhere in the Middle East?
An Arab Jew is probably assimilated because my son-in-laws grandparents are from Turkey and never called Hashem Allah.
On the other hand, we know you get your bullshit from Arab sites.

I know nothing about the Turkish language and rarely use any Arab sites. Allah is God in Arabic like French ,Spanish, Italian and German have a word for God.

Don't you feel stupid?
We know that the word for god in Arabic is Allah. Most people know that.

What we are saying is that no Jews we know, from anywhere , including those who came from the Arab countries, have called their G_D, Allah.
surada has dementia.
The Muslims and Christians have been re writing history since 1948. Since 1973 they have been going about it this way:



That is two generations of people who are being influenced by Jew haters who are achieving positions of power, and all the literature and social media they can handle.

All she posts comes from this endless re writing of history designed to delegitimize Israel, through delegitimizing the Jews, and making the Arabs be part of ancient Canaan, where Arabs cannot and never will decide when Oh, WHEN, did any Arab ever migrate to that area.

The proof of Palestinian history in Palestine is all there....at the Palestinian Museum, for anyone to see.

Jews have been rewriting history since Genesis.

Arabs left the Arabian peninsula in waves more than 10,000 years ago..Have you studied the Akkadians or the Marsh Arabs?
You might want to read Samuel Noah Kramer or Gertrude Bell orWilfred Theisinger.
1897-1990
(An Expert on Sumer, in Mesopotamia)

----------------
(Nothing about history of a Palestinian People )

1868-1926
----------------------
( Not an Archeologist, or historian. Lived amongst modern Arabs. H)

Amazon product
1910-2003
----------------

Not one of them seem to mention Palestinians as a People known at the time before the Mandate for Palestine

Arabs arrived in waves 10,000 years ago. But one cannot find one archeological evidence of any of each wave. Nor Historically.


Who do you think the Akkadians were, The 4 Arab tribes of Sargon2, the wives of Moses and Abraham. Herod and Pharaoh used Frankensense from Yemen.

Archaeologists have studied the tools of the Arabs, East Africans and the Levant. They have also studied the domestication of the horse. The Jews were not living in a vaccum. They were surounded by other cultures and other people. Read the Torah.. The Canaanites are around throughout the stories.

OIP.m0lHe0iZo406WF63hE_aeAHaKV
 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
Jews are a Ethnicity besides a religion.

Being Arab is also a Ethnicity.


Different Ethnicities.

The Jews were never referred to as Arab Jews until recently.

Iraqi Jews
Syrian Jews
Iranian Jews
Lebanese Jews
Moroccan Jews
Egyptian Jews
Lybian Jews
etc

Iraqi Christians
Syrian Christians
Iranian Christians
Lebanese Christians
etc

LOLOL. Did you know that Arab Christians and Arab Jews call God Allah?

Have you been anywhere in the Middle East?
An Arab Jew is probably assimilated because my son-in-laws grandparents are from Turkey and never called Hashem Allah.
On the other hand, we know you get your bullshit from Arab sites.

I know nothing about the Turkish language and rarely use any Arab sites. Allah is God in Arabic like French ,Spanish, Italian and German have a word for God.

Don't you feel stupid?
We know that the word for god in Arabic is Allah. Most people know that.

What we are saying is that no Jews we know, from anywhere , including those who came from the Arab countries, have called their G_D, Allah.
surada has dementia.
The Muslims and Christians have been re writing history since 1948. Since 1973 they have been going about it this way:



That is two generations of people who are being influenced by Jew haters who are achieving positions of power, and all the literature and social media they can handle.

All she posts comes from this endless re writing of history designed to delegitimize Israel, through delegitimizing the Jews, and making the Arabs be part of ancient Canaan, where Arabs cannot and never will decide when Oh, WHEN, did any Arab ever migrate to that area.

The proof of Palestinian history in Palestine is all there....at the Palestinian Museum, for anyone to see.

Jews have been rewriting history since Genesis.

Arabs left the Arabian peninsula in waves more than 10,000 years ago..Have you studied the Akkadians or the Marsh Arabs?
You might want to read Samuel Noah Kramer or Gertrude Bell orWilfred Theisinger.
1897-1990
(An Expert on Sumer, in Mesopotamia)

----------------
(Nothing about history of a Palestinian People )

1868-1926
----------------------
( Not an Archeologist, or historian. Lived amongst modern Arabs. H)

Amazon product
1910-2003
----------------

Not one of them seem to mention Palestinians as a People known at the time before the Mandate for Palestine

Arabs arrived in waves 10,000 years ago. But one cannot find one archeological evidence of any of each wave. Nor Historically.


Who do you think the Akkadians were, The 4 Arab tribes of Sargon2, the wives of Moses and Abraham. Herod and Pharaoh used Frankensense from Yemen.

Archaeologists have studied the tools of the Arabs, East Africans and the Levant. They have also studied the domestication of the horse. The Jews were not living in a vaccum. They were surounded by other cultures and other people. Read the Torah.. The Canaanites are around throughout the stories.

OIP.m0lHe0iZo406WF63hE_aeAHaKV

Archaeologists!

aka The guys/gals who get paid to deliver the results the donors want.
 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
Jews are a Ethnicity besides a religion.

Being Arab is also a Ethnicity.


Different Ethnicities.

The Jews were never referred to as Arab Jews until recently.

Iraqi Jews
Syrian Jews
Iranian Jews
Lebanese Jews
Moroccan Jews
Egyptian Jews
Lybian Jews
etc

Iraqi Christians
Syrian Christians
Iranian Christians
Lebanese Christians
etc

LOLOL. Did you know that Arab Christians and Arab Jews call God Allah?

Have you been anywhere in the Middle East?
An Arab Jew is probably assimilated because my son-in-laws grandparents are from Turkey and never called Hashem Allah.
On the other hand, we know you get your bullshit from Arab sites.

I know nothing about the Turkish language and rarely use any Arab sites. Allah is God in Arabic like French ,Spanish, Italian and German have a word for God.

Don't you feel stupid?
We know that the word for god in Arabic is Allah. Most people know that.

What we are saying is that no Jews we know, from anywhere , including those who came from the Arab countries, have called their G_D, Allah.
surada has dementia.
The Muslims and Christians have been re writing history since 1948. Since 1973 they have been going about it this way:



That is two generations of people who are being influenced by Jew haters who are achieving positions of power, and all the literature and social media they can handle.

All she posts comes from this endless re writing of history designed to delegitimize Israel, through delegitimizing the Jews, and making the Arabs be part of ancient Canaan, where Arabs cannot and never will decide when Oh, WHEN, did any Arab ever migrate to that area.

The proof of Palestinian history in Palestine is all there....at the Palestinian Museum, for anyone to see.

Jews have been rewriting history since Genesis.

Arabs left the Arabian peninsula in waves more than 10,000 years ago..Have you studied the Akkadians or the Marsh Arabs?
You might want to read Samuel Noah Kramer or Gertrude Bell orWilfred Theisinger.
Yes, it does look like you may be confusing Sumeria with Samaria:

The Akkadian Empire (/əˈkeɪdiən/)[4] was the first ancient empire of Mesopotamia after the long-lived civilization of Sumer. It was centered in the city of Akkad /ˈækæd/[5] and its surrounding region. The empire united Akkadian(Assyrian and Babylonian) and Sumerian speakers under one rule. The Akkadian Empire exercised influence across Mesopotamia, the Levant, and Anatolia, sending military expeditions as far south as Dilmun and Magan(modern Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Oman) in the Arabian Peninsula.[6]

During the 3rd millennium BC, there developed a cultural symbiosis between the Sumerians and the Akkadians, which included widespread bilingualism.[7]Akkadian, an East Semitic language,[8] gradually replaced Sumerian as a spoken language sometime between the end of the 3rd and the early 2nd millennia BC (the exact dating being a matter of debate).[9]

The Akkadian Empire reached its political peak between the 24th and 22nd centuries BC, following the conquests by its founder Sargon of Akkad.[10] Under Sargon and his successors, the Akkadian language was briefly imposed on neighboring conquered states such as Elam and Gutium. Akkad is sometimes regarded as the first empire in history, though the meaning of this term is not precise, and there are earlier Sumerian claimants.[11][12]

After the fall of the Akkadian Empire, the people of Mesopotamia eventually coalesced into two major Akkadian-speaking nations: Assyria in the north, and, a few centuries later, Babylonia in the south.


Nope. I know the difference between Sumer and Samaria.

The Akkadians came from the Arabian peninsula.
 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
Jews are a Ethnicity besides a religion.

Being Arab is also a Ethnicity.


Different Ethnicities.

The Jews were never referred to as Arab Jews until recently.

Iraqi Jews
Syrian Jews
Iranian Jews
Lebanese Jews
Moroccan Jews
Egyptian Jews
Lybian Jews
etc

Iraqi Christians
Syrian Christians
Iranian Christians
Lebanese Christians
etc

LOLOL. Did you know that Arab Christians and Arab Jews call God Allah?

Have you been anywhere in the Middle East?
An Arab Jew is probably assimilated because my son-in-laws grandparents are from Turkey and never called Hashem Allah.
On the other hand, we know you get your bullshit from Arab sites.

I know nothing about the Turkish language and rarely use any Arab sites. Allah is God in Arabic like French ,Spanish, Italian and German have a word for God.

Don't you feel stupid?
We know that the word for god in Arabic is Allah. Most people know that.

What we are saying is that no Jews we know, from anywhere , including those who came from the Arab countries, have called their G_D, Allah.
surada has dementia.
The Muslims and Christians have been re writing history since 1948. Since 1973 they have been going about it this way:



That is two generations of people who are being influenced by Jew haters who are achieving positions of power, and all the literature and social media they can handle.

All she posts comes from this endless re writing of history designed to delegitimize Israel, through delegitimizing the Jews, and making the Arabs be part of ancient Canaan, where Arabs cannot and never will decide when Oh, WHEN, did any Arab ever migrate to that area.

The proof of Palestinian history in Palestine is all there....at the Palestinian Museum, for anyone to see.

Jews have been rewriting history since Genesis.

Arabs left the Arabian peninsula in waves more than 10,000 years ago..Have you studied the Akkadians or the Marsh Arabs?
You might want to read Samuel Noah Kramer or Gertrude Bell orWilfred Theisinger.
1897-1990
(An Expert on Sumer, in Mesopotamia)

----------------
(Nothing about history of a Palestinian People )

1868-1926
----------------------
( Not an Archeologist, or historian. Lived amongst modern Arabs. H)

Amazon product
1910-2003
----------------

Not one of them seem to mention Palestinians as a People known at the time before the Mandate for Palestine

Arabs arrived in waves 10,000 years ago. But one cannot find one archeological evidence of any of each wave. Nor Historically.


Who do you think the Akkadians were, The 4 Arab tribes of Sargon2, the wives of Moses and Abraham. Herod and Pharaoh used Frankensense from Yemen.

Archaeologists have studied the tools of the Arabs, East Africans and the Levant. They have also studied the domestication of the horse. The Jews were not living in a vaccum. They were surounded by other cultures and other people. Read the Torah.. The Canaanites are around throughout the stories.

OIP.m0lHe0iZo406WF63hE_aeAHaKV

Archaeologists!

aka The guys/gals who get paid to deliver the results the donors want.


Right, everyone is for sale.
 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
Jews are a Ethnicity besides a religion.

Being Arab is also a Ethnicity.


Different Ethnicities.

The Jews were never referred to as Arab Jews until recently.

Iraqi Jews
Syrian Jews
Iranian Jews
Lebanese Jews
Moroccan Jews
Egyptian Jews
Lybian Jews
etc

Iraqi Christians
Syrian Christians
Iranian Christians
Lebanese Christians
etc

LOLOL. Did you know that Arab Christians and Arab Jews call God Allah?

Have you been anywhere in the Middle East?
An Arab Jew is probably assimilated because my son-in-laws grandparents are from Turkey and never called Hashem Allah.
On the other hand, we know you get your bullshit from Arab sites.

I know nothing about the Turkish language and rarely use any Arab sites. Allah is God in Arabic like French ,Spanish, Italian and German have a word for God.

Don't you feel stupid?
We know that the word for god in Arabic is Allah. Most people know that.

What we are saying is that no Jews we know, from anywhere , including those who came from the Arab countries, have called their G_D, Allah.
surada has dementia.
The Muslims and Christians have been re writing history since 1948. Since 1973 they have been going about it this way:



That is two generations of people who are being influenced by Jew haters who are achieving positions of power, and all the literature and social media they can handle.

All she posts comes from this endless re writing of history designed to delegitimize Israel, through delegitimizing the Jews, and making the Arabs be part of ancient Canaan, where Arabs cannot and never will decide when Oh, WHEN, did any Arab ever migrate to that area.

The proof of Palestinian history in Palestine is all there....at the Palestinian Museum, for anyone to see.

Jews have been rewriting history since Genesis.

Arabs left the Arabian peninsula in waves more than 10,000 years ago..Have you studied the Akkadians or the Marsh Arabs?
You might want to read Samuel Noah Kramer or Gertrude Bell orWilfred Theisinger.
Yes, it does look like you may be confusing Sumeria with Samaria:

The Akkadian Empire (/əˈkeɪdiən/)[4] was the first ancient empire of Mesopotamia after the long-lived civilization of Sumer. It was centered in the city of Akkad /ˈækæd/[5] and its surrounding region. The empire united Akkadian(Assyrian and Babylonian) and Sumerian speakers under one rule. The Akkadian Empire exercised influence across Mesopotamia, the Levant, and Anatolia, sending military expeditions as far south as Dilmun and Magan(modern Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Oman) in the Arabian Peninsula.[6]

During the 3rd millennium BC, there developed a cultural symbiosis between the Sumerians and the Akkadians, which included widespread bilingualism.[7]Akkadian, an East Semitic language,[8] gradually replaced Sumerian as a spoken language sometime between the end of the 3rd and the early 2nd millennia BC (the exact dating being a matter of debate).[9]

The Akkadian Empire reached its political peak between the 24th and 22nd centuries BC, following the conquests by its founder Sargon of Akkad.[10] Under Sargon and his successors, the Akkadian language was briefly imposed on neighboring conquered states such as Elam and Gutium. Akkad is sometimes regarded as the first empire in history, though the meaning of this term is not precise, and there are earlier Sumerian claimants.[11][12]

After the fall of the Akkadian Empire, the people of Mesopotamia eventually coalesced into two major Akkadian-speaking nations: Assyria in the north, and, a few centuries later, Babylonia in the south.


Nope. I know the difference between Sumer and Samaria.

The Akkadians came from the Arabian peninsula.
What study says that the Akkadians came from the Arabian Peninsula?
 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
"The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique."

Why can't that uniqueness be found in the last 5000 to 10,000 years.
Why did it develop only after the Mandate for Palestine for the re creation of the Jewish Nation ON their Jewish homeland?

How would you know? The Jews arrived in Palestine from Germany, Poland, Russia etc. Most of them didn't speak Hebrew either.
Yes, the Jews who had much earlier in history migrated to Europe, were now returning to their homeland.

Jews have been returning to their homeland for centuries.

After pogroms, the Inquisition, etc. Jews were always returning to their ancient homeland to join all the other Jews who had never left their homeland, or what is now known as the Middle East.

Jewish history is known all over the world, from its ancient time.


Palestinian history is known only since the Mandate for Palestine and since the Arabs lost all the wars to the Jews.

There would never be a Palestinian people, had the Arabs succeeded in destroying Israel and retaking the land to Islam.

But you never really answered my post.

The problem is that you seem to think no one else in Palestine had a history except the Jews.
Plenty of peoples had a history in Ancient Canaan.

But not today's Palestinians, and not the descendants of the Arab Muslim invaders.
Good point. The overwhelming majority of todays "Palestinians" are land thieves with no titles or deeds whatsoever to the land they stole.
 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
Jews are a Ethnicity besides a religion.

Being Arab is also a Ethnicity.


Different Ethnicities.

The Jews were never referred to as Arab Jews until recently.

Iraqi Jews
Syrian Jews
Iranian Jews
Lebanese Jews
Moroccan Jews
Egyptian Jews
Lybian Jews
etc

Iraqi Christians
Syrian Christians
Iranian Christians
Lebanese Christians
etc

LOLOL. Did you know that Arab Christians and Arab Jews call God Allah?

Have you been anywhere in the Middle East?
An Arab Jew is probably assimilated because my son-in-laws grandparents are from Turkey and never called Hashem Allah.
On the other hand, we know you get your bullshit from Arab sites.

I know nothing about the Turkish language and rarely use any Arab sites. Allah is God in Arabic like French ,Spanish, Italian and German have a word for God.

Don't you feel stupid?
We know that the word for god in Arabic is Allah. Most people know that.

What we are saying is that no Jews we know, from anywhere , including those who came from the Arab countries, have called their G_D, Allah.
surada has dementia.
The Muslims and Christians have been re writing history since 1948. Since 1973 they have been going about it this way:



That is two generations of people who are being influenced by Jew haters who are achieving positions of power, and all the literature and social media they can handle.

All she posts comes from this endless re writing of history designed to delegitimize Israel, through delegitimizing the Jews, and making the Arabs be part of ancient Canaan, where Arabs cannot and never will decide when Oh, WHEN, did any Arab ever migrate to that area.

The proof of Palestinian history in Palestine is all there....at the Palestinian Museum, for anyone to see.

Jews have been rewriting history since Genesis.

Arabs left the Arabian peninsula in waves more than 10,000 years ago..Have you studied the Akkadians or the Marsh Arabs?
You might want to read Samuel Noah Kramer or Gertrude Bell orWilfred Theisinger.
1897-1990
(An Expert on Sumer, in Mesopotamia)

----------------
(Nothing about history of a Palestinian People )

1868-1926
----------------------
( Not an Archeologist, or historian. Lived amongst modern Arabs. H)

Amazon product
1910-2003
----------------

Not one of them seem to mention Palestinians as a People known at the time before the Mandate for Palestine

Arabs arrived in waves 10,000 years ago. But one cannot find one archeological evidence of any of each wave. Nor Historically.


Who do you think the Akkadians were, The 4 Arab tribes of Sargon2, the wives of Moses and Abraham. Herod and Pharaoh used Frankensense from Yemen.

Archaeologists have studied the tools of the Arabs, East Africans and the Levant. They have also studied the domestication of the horse. The Jews were not living in a vaccum. They were surounded by other cultures and other people. Read the Torah.. The Canaanites are around throughout the stories.

OIP.m0lHe0iZo406WF63hE_aeAHaKV

What 4 Arab tribes of Sargon II? Explain.

I am still not seeing a Palestinian People and culture being distinguishable from the tribes of Canaan at any time in that period of history which has survived to this day.
 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab


The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab
There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
Jews are a Ethnicity besides a religion.

Being Arab is also a Ethnicity.


Different Ethnicities.

The Jews were never referred to as Arab Jews until recently.

Iraqi Jews
Syrian Jews
Iranian Jews
Lebanese Jews
Moroccan Jews
Egyptian Jews
Lybian Jews
etc

Iraqi Christians
Syrian Christians
Iranian Christians
Lebanese Christians
etc

LOLOL. Did you know that Arab Christians and Arab Jews call God Allah?

Have you been anywhere in the Middle East?
An Arab Jew is probably assimilated because my son-in-laws grandparents are from Turkey and never called Hashem Allah.
On the other hand, we know you get your bullshit from Arab sites.

I know nothing about the Turkish language and rarely use any Arab sites. Allah is God in Arabic like French ,Spanish, Italian and German have a word for God.

Don't you feel stupid?
We know that the word for god in Arabic is Allah. Most people know that.

What we are saying is that no Jews we know, from anywhere , including those who came from the Arab countries, have called their G_D, Allah.
surada has dementia.
The Muslims and Christians have been re writing history since 1948. Since 1973 they have been going about it this way:



That is two generations of people who are being influenced by Jew haters who are achieving positions of power, and all the literature and social media they can handle.

All she posts comes from this endless re writing of history designed to delegitimize Israel, through delegitimizing the Jews, and making the Arabs be part of ancient Canaan, where Arabs cannot and never will decide when Oh, WHEN, did any Arab ever migrate to that area.

The proof of Palestinian history in Palestine is all there....at the Palestinian Museum, for anyone to see.

Jews have been rewriting history since Genesis.

Arabs left the Arabian peninsula in waves more than 10,000 years ago..Have you studied the Akkadians or the Marsh Arabs?
You might want to read Samuel Noah Kramer or Gertrude Bell orWilfred Theisinger.
Yes, it does look like you may be confusing Sumeria with Samaria:

The Akkadian Empire (/əˈkeɪdiən/)[4] was the first ancient empire of Mesopotamia after the long-lived civilization of Sumer. It was centered in the city of Akkad /ˈækæd/[5] and its surrounding region. The empire united Akkadian(Assyrian and Babylonian) and Sumerian speakers under one rule. The Akkadian Empire exercised influence across Mesopotamia, the Levant, and Anatolia, sending military expeditions as far south as Dilmun and Magan(modern Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Oman) in the Arabian Peninsula.[6]

During the 3rd millennium BC, there developed a cultural symbiosis between the Sumerians and the Akkadians, which included widespread bilingualism.[7]Akkadian, an East Semitic language,[8] gradually replaced Sumerian as a spoken language sometime between the end of the 3rd and the early 2nd millennia BC (the exact dating being a matter of debate).[9]

The Akkadian Empire reached its political peak between the 24th and 22nd centuries BC, following the conquests by its founder Sargon of Akkad.[10] Under Sargon and his successors, the Akkadian language was briefly imposed on neighboring conquered states such as Elam and Gutium. Akkad is sometimes regarded as the first empire in history, though the meaning of this term is not precise, and there are earlier Sumerian claimants.[11][12]

After the fall of the Akkadian Empire, the people of Mesopotamia eventually coalesced into two major Akkadian-speaking nations: Assyria in the north, and, a few centuries later, Babylonia in the south.


Nope. I know the difference between Sumer and Samaria.

The Akkadians came from the Arabian peninsula.
What study says that the Akkadians came from the Arabian Peninsula?

Exile, Assyrian | Encyclopedia.com
In place of the Israelite deportees, Sargon settled residents of other defeated nations in the Assyrian province of Samaria. In this connection the Bible mentions exiles from Babylon, Cuthah, Avva, Hamath, and Sepharvaim (ii Kings 17:24), while an inscription of Sargon ii specifies members of four Arab tribes who were settled in "Omriland" (Bīt Ḫumri) in 716/5 b.c.e.
 
This thread looks for the reference, existence of a People called Palestinians, as opposed to the region called Palestine, before 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine.

Let us stick to that, please.

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The term "Arab", as well as the presence of Arabians in the Syrian Desert and the Fertile Crescent, is first seen in the Assyrian sources from the 9th century BCE (Eph'al 1984).[92] Southern Palestine had a large Edomite and Arab population by the 4th century BCE.[93] Inscriptional evidence over a millennium from the peripheral areas of Palestine, such as the Golan and the Negev, show a prevalence of Arab names over Aramaic names from the Achaemenid period,550 -330 BCE onwards.

[94][95] Bedouins have drifted in waves into Palestine since at least the 7th century, after the Muslim conquest. Some of them, like the Arab al-Sakhr south of Lake Kinneret trace their origins to the Hejaz or Najd in the Arabian Peninsula, while the Ghazawiyya's ancestry is said to go back to the Hauran's Misl al-Jizel tribes.[96] They speak distinct dialects of Arabic in the Galilee and the Negev.[97]

It refers to Arabs. Not one of those tribes, or cultures, was called Palestinian.

Arab presence is one thing. Palestinian presence is another.

Even the minority of Jewish Arabs or Arab speaking Jews were called Palestinians .. so were the Palestinian Christians.

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There are no Jewish Arabs, unless Arabs from Arabia converted to Judaism.

Muslims started saying that the Jews from the Arab conquered areas were "Arabs" to confuse people, and hope that the Jews would consider themselves Arabs.

In that case, Jews from Iraq would be Babylonian Jews (as they are known for having been taken to Babylon), and then the next conqueror, and the next conqueror and the next. But that is not the case.

Jews from other parts would be changing identity as well with every invading group.

That never happened because Jews are Jews.
The Arabs are Arabs from various tribes from Arabia which migrated, but kept their identity and culture through the ages.

It seems like only the Palestinians cannot find their ancestral identity and culture and have borrowed heavily from Egyptian or Saudi culture since 1920.

Jewish isn't a race. Its a religion. Arab isn't a race either. If they share the same DNA with all the Arabs in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine and speak Arabic they are Arab Jews.

Their DNA has more in common markers with Jews than with Saudis. That's the whole GD point.

You have never lived in the ME, have you? I mean you don't know anything about KSA or Libya or Kuwait or Lebanon..

The Palestinians are also related to Greeks, Turks, Romans and Crusaders... Their culture is quite unique.
Jews are a Ethnicity besides a religion.

Being Arab is also a Ethnicity.


Different Ethnicities.

The Jews were never referred to as Arab Jews until recently.

Iraqi Jews
Syrian Jews
Iranian Jews
Lebanese Jews
Moroccan Jews
Egyptian Jews
Lybian Jews
etc

Iraqi Christians
Syrian Christians
Iranian Christians
Lebanese Christians
etc

LOLOL. Did you know that Arab Christians and Arab Jews call God Allah?

Have you been anywhere in the Middle East?
An Arab Jew is probably assimilated because my son-in-laws grandparents are from Turkey and never called Hashem Allah.
On the other hand, we know you get your bullshit from Arab sites.

I know nothing about the Turkish language and rarely use any Arab sites. Allah is God in Arabic like French ,Spanish, Italian and German have a word for God.

Don't you feel stupid?
We know that the word for god in Arabic is Allah. Most people know that.

What we are saying is that no Jews we know, from anywhere , including those who came from the Arab countries, have called their G_D, Allah.
surada has dementia.
The Muslims and Christians have been re writing history since 1948. Since 1973 they have been going about it this way:



That is two generations of people who are being influenced by Jew haters who are achieving positions of power, and all the literature and social media they can handle.

All she posts comes from this endless re writing of history designed to delegitimize Israel, through delegitimizing the Jews, and making the Arabs be part of ancient Canaan, where Arabs cannot and never will decide when Oh, WHEN, did any Arab ever migrate to that area.

The proof of Palestinian history in Palestine is all there....at the Palestinian Museum, for anyone to see.

Jews have been rewriting history since Genesis.

Arabs left the Arabian peninsula in waves more than 10,000 years ago..Have you studied the Akkadians or the Marsh Arabs?
You might want to read Samuel Noah Kramer or Gertrude Bell orWilfred Theisinger.
1897-1990
(An Expert on Sumer, in Mesopotamia)

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(Nothing about history of a Palestinian People )

1868-1926
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Not one of them seem to mention Palestinians as a People known at the time before the Mandate for Palestine

Arabs arrived in waves 10,000 years ago. But one cannot find one archeological evidence of any of each wave. Nor Historically.


Who do you think the Akkadians were, The 4 Arab tribes of Sargon2, the wives of Moses and Abraham. Herod and Pharaoh used Frankensense from Yemen.

Archaeologists have studied the tools of the Arabs, East Africans and the Levant. They have also studied the domestication of the horse. The Jews were not living in a vaccum. They were surounded by other cultures and other people. Read the Torah.. The Canaanites are around throughout the stories.

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What 4 Arab tribes of Sargon II? Explain.

I am still not seeing a Palestinian People and culture being distinguishable from the tribes of Canaan at any time in that period of history which has survived to this day.


Exile, Assyrian | Encyclopedia.com
In place of the Israelite deportees, Sargon settled residents of other defeated nations in the Assyrian province of Samaria. In this connection the Bible mentions exiles from Babylon, Cuthah, Avva, Hamath, and Sepharvaim (ii Kings 17:24), while an inscription of Sargon ii specifies members of four Arab tribes who were settled in "Omriland" (Bīt Ḫumri) in 716/5 b.c.e.
 

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