Palestine and Jerusalem belong to Muslims

[Osomir]

The non-muslim and secular historical evidence for the existence of Prophet Muhammad is overwhelming. .....

What came first .... Jerusalem or Muhammad?
Saul and king David established Jerusalem as the capital around 1500 years before Muhammad was born.
Jerusalem never belonged to Muhammad.

According to that logic the city doesn't belong to Jews either since it existed before Joshua's invasion. Personally, I don't think it "belongs" to any religion.

It belongs to Israel. Try taking it from them.

I agree that they have a right to Western Jerusalem.

And Mexico has the right to California.

Figure the odds.

Are you disagreeing with the notion that Israel has a right to Western Jerusalem?

 

[Roudy]

The ramblings of a mass murderer in hiding and out of touch, jealous that one of his crew had betrayed the organization and achieved more than him.

You've never actually read the original works of the people who you are claiming to speak for before, have you?

No. Is that a prerequirement at the university of stupidity?

It is a prerequisite of knowing what you are talking about when it comes to the subject.

What subject is that? That ISIS is an offshoot of Al Queda? That's a fact jack.

Islamism, terrorism, conflict, Islam in general. Your self confidence in the face of your admitted lack of study on the subject is a bit piteous.

Sorry buddy, didnt find it one of my life's ambitions to study the koran. Had seen and heard enough of its effects on the human brains and society in general. It's a barbaric, violent, intolerant, imperialist, supremacist faith.

And I've personally talked to and interacted with "the enemy" many times.

No need to read "writings". It's all the same basic justifications and Islamic inspirarions.

True story.

 

[mudwhistle]

What came first .... Jerusalem or Muhammad?
Saul and king David established Jerusalem as the capital around 1500 years before Muhammad was born.
Jerusalem never belonged to Muhammad.

According to that logic the city doesn't belong to Jews either since it existed before Joshua's invasion. Personally, I don't think it "belongs" to any religion.

It belongs to Israel. Try taking it from them.

I agree that they have a right to Western Jerusalem.

And Mexico has the right to California.

Figure the odds.

Are you disagreeing with the notion that Israel has a right to Western Jerusalem?

No.
I was using sarcasm.

 

[Osomir]

You've never actually read the original works of the people who you are claiming to speak for before, have you?

No. Is that a prerequirement at the university of stupidity?

It is a prerequisite of knowing what you are talking about when it comes to the subject.

What subject is that? That ISIS is an offshoot of Al Queda? That's a fact jack.

Islamism, terrorism, conflict, Islam in general. Your self confidence in the face of your admitted lack of study on the subject is a bit piteous.

Sorry buddy, didnt find it one of my life's ambitions to study the koran. Had seen and heard enough of its effects in then U an brains rain an society in general. It's a barbaric, violent, intolerant, imperialist, supremacist faith.

True story.

Then you'll never know much about Islam or Islamic terrorism.

True story.

Which is fine, but it makes your claim to authority and knowledge in this area rather intellectually dishonest.

 

[Roudy]

What came first .... Jerusalem or Muhammad?
Saul and king David established Jerusalem as the capital around 1500 years before Muhammad was born.
Jerusalem never belonged to Muhammad.

According to that logic the city doesn't belong to Jews either since it existed before Joshua's invasion. Personally, I don't think it "belongs" to any religion.

It belongs to Israel. Try taking it from them.

I agree that they have a right to Western Jerusalem.

And Mexico has the right to California.

Figure the odds.

Are you disagreeing with the notion that Israel has a right to Western Jerusalem?

Are you disagreeing that the Koran gives Israel to the Jews?

 

[mudwhistle]

What came first .... Jerusalem or Muhammad?
Saul and king David established Jerusalem as the capital around 1500 years before Muhammad was born.
Jerusalem never belonged to Muhammad.

According to that logic the city doesn't belong to Jews either since it existed before Joshua's invasion. Personally, I don't think it "belongs" to any religion.

It belongs to Israel. Try taking it from them.

I agree that they have a right to Western Jerusalem.

And Mexico has the right to California.

Figure the odds.

Are you disagreeing with the notion that Israel has a right to Western Jerusalem?

Israel barely has any land at all. Why doesn't Jordan give the PLO some of theirs?

 

[Osomir]

According to that logic the city doesn't belong to Jews either since it existed before Joshua's invasion. Personally, I don't think it "belongs" to any religion.

It belongs to Israel. Try taking it from them.

I agree that they have a right to Western Jerusalem.

And Mexico has the right to California.

Figure the odds.

Are you disagreeing with the notion that Israel has a right to Western Jerusalem?

Israel barely has any land at all. Why doesn't Jordan give the PLO some of theirs?

Why should they? A right to land doesn't depend on how much you have.

 

[Osomir]

According to that logic the city doesn't belong to Jews either since it existed before Joshua's invasion. Personally, I don't think it "belongs" to any religion.

It belongs to Israel. Try taking it from them.

I agree that they have a right to Western Jerusalem.

And Mexico has the right to California.

Figure the odds.

Are you disagreeing with the notion that Israel has a right to Western Jerusalem?

Are you disagreeing that the Koran gives Israel to the Jews?

There isn't anything in the Quran that states that either Jews or Muslims can't live in Jerusalem.

 

[Osomir]

And I've personally talked to and interacted with "the enemy" many times.

No need to read "writings". It's all the same basic justifications and Islamic inspirarions.

And yet you still weren't able to recognize their ideological structures when they were directly quoted to you. Once again your standards for authority are pretty low.

 

[Roudy]

No. Is that a prerequirement at the university of stupidity?

It is a prerequisite of knowing what you are talking about when it comes to the subject.

What subject is that? That ISIS is an offshoot of Al Queda? That's a fact jack.

Islamism, terrorism, conflict, Islam in general. Your self confidence in the face of your admitted lack of study on the subject is a bit piteous.

Sorry buddy, didnt find it one of my life's ambitions to study the koran. Had seen and heard enough of its effects in then U an brains rain an society in general. It's a barbaric, violent, intolerant, imperialist, supremacist faith.

True story.

Then you'll never know much about Islam or Islamic terrorism.

True story.

Which is fine, but it makes your claim to authority and knowledge in this area rather intellectually dishonest.

I know enough about Islam and where Islam terrorism comes from. Actually the word terrorism is wrong usage because the terrorists believe they are devout Muslims doing gods work.

Never professed to be an authority, just one person with a firsthand account and diverse background and knowledge. You on other hand claim to be an authority, on what I don't know, as you've been proven wrong many times over in this very thread.

 

[Roudy]

And I've personally talked to and interacted with "the enemy" many times.

No need to read "writings". It's all the same basic justifications and Islamic inspirarions.

And yet you still weren't able to recognize their ideological structures when they were directly quoted to you. Once again your standards for authority are pretty low.

"Ideological structures". You are insane. You think an extremist or radical Muslim is worried about staying true to "ideological structures." Your lack of basic knowledge of how the world works is astounding.

 

[Osomir]

It is a prerequisite of knowing what you are talking about when it comes to the subject.

What subject is that? That ISIS is an offshoot of Al Queda? That's a fact jack.

Islamism, terrorism, conflict, Islam in general. Your self confidence in the face of your admitted lack of study on the subject is a bit piteous.

Sorry buddy, didnt find it one of my life's ambitions to study the koran. Had seen and heard enough of its effects in then U an brains rain an society in general. It's a barbaric, violent, intolerant, imperialist, supremacist faith.

True story.

Then you'll never know much about Islam or Islamic terrorism.

True story.

Which is fine, but it makes your claim to authority and knowledge in this area rather intellectually dishonest.

I know enough about Islam and where Islam terrorism comes from. Actually the word terrorism is wrong usage because the terrorists believe they are devout Muslims doing gods work.

Never professed to be an authority, just one person with a firsthand account and diverse background and knowledge. You on other hand claim to be an authority, on what I don't know, as you've been proven wrong many times over in this very thread.

Someone with a diverse background and knowledge who argued against Khomeini's own speeches and writings while claiming to speak for him. Sounds legit. No room for improvement there!

 

[Osomir]

And I've personally talked to and interacted with "the enemy" many times.

No need to read "writings". It's all the same basic justifications and Islamic inspirarions.

And yet you still weren't able to recognize their ideological structures when they were directly quoted to you. Once again your standards for authority are pretty low.

"Ideological structures". You are insane. You think an extremist or radical Muslim is worried about staying true to "ideological structures." Your lack of basic knowledge of how the world works is astounding.

Once again, you are arguing directly against Osama bin Laden here while attempting to speak for terrorists like those who joined his Al Qaeda organization. Quaint.

 

[Roudy]

It belongs to Israel. Try taking it from them.

I agree that they have a right to Western Jerusalem.

And Mexico has the right to California.

Figure the odds.

Are you disagreeing with the notion that Israel has a right to Western Jerusalem?

Are you disagreeing that the Koran gives Israel to the Jews?

There isn't anything in the Quran that states that either Jews or Muslims can't live in Jerusalem.

Ah so you're a liar then as well. I didn't ask you what it DOESN'T say, I asked you whether the Koran specifically gives Israel to the Jews or not.

 

[Roudy]

And I've personally talked to and interacted with "the enemy" many times.

No need to read "writings". It's all the same basic justifications and Islamic inspirarions.

And yet you still weren't able to recognize their ideological structures when they were directly quoted to you. Once again your standards for authority are pretty low.

"Ideological structures". You are insane. You think an extremist or radical Muslim is worried about staying true to "ideological structures." Your lack of basic knowledge of how the world works is astounding.

Once again, you are arguing directly against Osama bin Laden here while attempting to speak for terrorists like those who joined his Al Qaeda organization. Quaint.

What am I arguing? ISIS is an offshoot of Al Queda. That is a fact. Stay off the baloney.

 

[Osomir]

I agree that they have a right to Western Jerusalem.

And Mexico has the right to California.

Figure the odds.

Are you disagreeing with the notion that Israel has a right to Western Jerusalem?

Are you disagreeing that the Koran gives Israel to the Jews?

There isn't anything in the Quran that states that either Jews or Muslims can't live in Jerusalem.

Ah so you're a liar then as well. I didn't ask you what it DOESN'T say, I asked you whether the Koran specifically gives Israel to the Jews or not.

where did I utter a lie?

 

[Osomir]

And I've personally talked to and interacted with "the enemy" many times.

No need to read "writings". It's all the same basic justifications and Islamic inspirarions.

And yet you still weren't able to recognize their ideological structures when they were directly quoted to you. Once again your standards for authority are pretty low.

"Ideological structures". You are insane. You think an extremist or radical Muslim is worried about staying true to "ideological structures." Your lack of basic knowledge of how the world works is astounding.

Once again, you are arguing directly against Osama bin Laden here while attempting to speak for terrorists like those who joined his Al Qaeda organization. Quaint.

What am I arguing? ISIS is an offshoot of Al Queda. That is a fact. Stay off the baloney.

Nice backtracking, the fact that you have had to reduce the entirety of your argument to one basic line is pretty telling regarding how confident you are about the robustness of the rest of your previously stated opinions. ISIS is indeed a breakaway movement from Al Qaeda, that was never disputed by anyone.

 

[Roudy]

What subject is that? That ISIS is an offshoot of Al Queda? That's a fact jack.

Islamism, terrorism, conflict, Islam in general. Your self confidence in the face of your admitted lack of study on the subject is a bit piteous.

Sorry buddy, didnt find it one of my life's ambitions to study the koran. Had seen and heard enough of its effects in then U an brains rain an society in general. It's a barbaric, violent, intolerant, imperialist, supremacist faith.

True story.

Then you'll never know much about Islam or Islamic terrorism.

True story.

Which is fine, but it makes your claim to authority and knowledge in this area rather intellectually dishonest.

I know enough about Islam and where Islam terrorism comes from. Actually the word terrorism is wrong usage because the terrorists believe they are devout Muslims doing gods work.

Never professed to be an authority, just one person with a firsthand account and diverse background and knowledge. You on other hand claim to be an authority, on what I don't know, as you've been proven wrong many times over in this very thread.

Someone with a diverse background and knowledge who argued against Khomeini's own speeches and writings while claiming to speak for him. Sounds legit. No room for improvement there!

Ha ha ha. Argued against Khomenis speeches? You're making shit up now. You're the ignorant one who didn't even know they call Khomeini an Imam in Iran. Stick to the private room lap dancing.

 

[Osomir]

Islamism, terrorism, conflict, Islam in general. Your self confidence in the face of your admitted lack of study on the subject is a bit piteous.

Sorry buddy, didnt find it one of my life's ambitions to study the koran. Had seen and heard enough of its effects in then U an brains rain an society in general. It's a barbaric, violent, intolerant, imperialist, supremacist faith.

True story.

Then you'll never know much about Islam or Islamic terrorism.

True story.

Which is fine, but it makes your claim to authority and knowledge in this area rather intellectually dishonest.

I know enough about Islam and where Islam terrorism comes from. Actually the word terrorism is wrong usage because the terrorists believe they are devout Muslims doing gods work.

Never professed to be an authority, just one person with a firsthand account and diverse background and knowledge. You on other hand claim to be an authority, on what I don't know, as you've been proven wrong many times over in this very thread.

Someone with a diverse background and knowledge who argued against Khomeini's own speeches and writings while claiming to speak for him. Sounds legit. No room for improvement there!

Ha ha ha. Argued against Khomenis speeches? You're making shit up now. You're the ignorant one who didn't even know they call Khomeini an Imam in Iran. Stick to the private room lap dancing.

I'd be happy to quote his speeches where he extolls his followers to assault and tear off the turbans of the classical Shia ulama for you if you'd like (showcasing classical shiism's opposition to his ideological structures) which you denied existed when you painted him as a shia pope who represented "traditional and pure Shiism".

 

[Roudy]

And I've personally talked to and interacted with "the enemy" many times.

No need to read "writings". It's all the same basic justifications and Islamic inspirarions.

And yet you still weren't able to recognize their ideological structures when they were directly quoted to you. Once again your standards for authority are pretty low.

"Ideological structures". You are insane. You think an extremist or radical Muslim is worried about staying true to "ideological structures." Your lack of basic knowledge of how the world works is astounding.

Once again, you are arguing directly against Osama bin Laden here while attempting to speak for terrorists like those who joined his Al Qaeda organization. Quaint.

What am I arguing? ISIS is an offshoot of Al Queda. That is a fact. Stay off the baloney.

Nice backtracking, the fact that you have had to reduce the entirety of your argument to one basic line is pretty telling regarding how confident you are about the robustness of the rest of your previously stated opinions. ISIS is indeed a breakaway movement from Al Qaeda, that was never disputed by anyone.

So. Back track what? You just like to divert from the subject because you lack real life knowledge that you THINK you've compensated for. But in reality you haven't.