Palestine and Jerusalem belong to Muslims

[Uncensored2008]

Since Muhammad (peace be upon him and his family) never really existed then I guess he can be whatever anyone wants him to be.

?????


You do grasp that there is anthropological evidence confirming that the brutal warlord Muhammad raged across the Arabian peninsula, right? The Byzantines wrote independently of his armies.

 

[Roudy]

I specifically cited that my source for the item was the Testament of Solomon, and the Star of David is prevalent in many traditions including the occult and demonology as is the Testament of Solomon (it does talk about the binding of demons afterall).

The ring had an engraved stone upon it, and different versions have different descriptions of the engraving.

The Testament of Solomon wasn't a picture book. And since there never was any ring, its symbol is open to popular interpretation and artistic rendering. the Pentagram is used more often by those who like to link it to the occult and demonology rather than to medieval Jewish literature.

so your calling the star of david is the solomon seal is "your" interpretation and not based on fact

the connection to solomon is that david was his father, house of david nothing more. No demons, no magic.

But the Harmony Center told him! He has these very reliable irrefutable sources!

The Harmony Program is a collection of primary sources. They are literally written by terrorists. by arguing against the Harmony Program, you are literally arguing against those in Al Qaeda and ISIS who you were previously claiming to speak for.

Ya right. The "terrorists" have nothing better to do but write love letters to West Point University.

 

[Osomir]

The ring had an engraved stone upon it, and different versions have different descriptions of the engraving.

The Testament of Solomon wasn't a picture book. And since there never was any ring, its symbol is open to popular interpretation and artistic rendering. the Pentagram is used more often by those who like to link it to the occult and demonology rather than to medieval Jewish literature.

so your calling the star of david is the solomon seal is "your" interpretation and not based on fact

the connection to solomon is that david was his father, house of david nothing more. No demons, no magic.

But the Harmony Center told him! He has these very reliable irrefutable sources!

The Harmony Program is a collection of primary sources. They are literally written by terrorists. by arguing against the Harmony Program, you are literally arguing against those in Al Qaeda and ISIS who you were previously claiming to speak for.

Ya right. The "terrorists" have nothing better to do but write love letters to West Point University.

Terrorists write to each other all of the time. they also produce material for public consumption all of the time and publish extensive works on Jihadi forums where they debate ideology. We also have documents captured in raids or obtained through spy networks. One famous incident of battle captured documents are the Abbottabad letters which were captured when Osama bin Laden was killed and which I utilized against you in my earlier arguments concerning the differences between ISIS (then AQI) and Al Qaeda. You were literally arguing against Osama bin Laden's own writings when trying to speak for him and his beliefs. this isn't some sort of conspiracy theory, you are free to browse through the primary documents both in their original language and translated into English yourself through the site.

 

[Roudy]

The Testament of Solomon wasn't a picture book. And since there never was any ring, its symbol is open to popular interpretation and artistic rendering. the Pentagram is used more often by those who like to link it to the occult and demonology rather than to medieval Jewish literature.

so your calling the star of david is the solomon seal is "your" interpretation and not based on fact

the connection to solomon is that david was his father, house of david nothing more. No demons, no magic.

But the Harmony Center told him! He has these very reliable irrefutable sources!

The Harmony Program is a collection of primary sources. They are literally written by terrorists. by arguing against the Harmony Program, you are literally arguing against those in Al Qaeda and ISIS who you were previously claiming to speak for.

Ya right. The "terrorists" have nothing better to do but write love letters to West Point University.

Terrorists write to each other all of the time. they also produce material for public consumption all of the time and publish extensive works on Jihadi forums where they debate ideology. We also have documents captured in raids or obtained through spy networks. One famous incident of battle captured documents are the Abbottabad letters which were captured when Osama bin Laden was killed and which I utilized agianst you in my earlier arguments concerning the differences between ISIS and Al Qaeda. You were literally arguing against Osama bin Laden's own writings.

Ooooo. Do I need a Harmony Center to tell me that that these are all Islamic supremacist terrorist organizations, competing for which one of their warped ideologies wins the mantle of Islam? No I don't.

I stated ISIS is an off shoot of Al Al Queda, AND IT IS.

http://www.al-monitor.com/RnbVZ/pulse/ar/security/2013/11/syria-islamic-state-iraq-sham-growth.html

The Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS) has succeeded in imposing itself as a key player in the complex Syrian equation in a relatively short time, which some consider a record time. That would be the case had ISIS been a new organization, but in fact the only thing new about it is its name. One cannot understand how ISIS has surpassed the other armed organizations in Syria that preceded it without understanding that ISIS, under a different name, is in fact older than the other groups and older than the Syrian crisis itself.

The roots of the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham

The roots of ISIS go back to Oct. 15, 2006, when what is known as the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI) was established. That groups was formed by uniting several groups, most notably al-Qaeda in Mesopotamia, led by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the Mujahedeen Shura Council in Iraq, and Jund al-Sahhaba [Soldiers of the Prophet’s Companions].

ISI took Baquba, Iraq, as its capital and swore allegiance to Abu Omar al-Baghdadi as the group’s emir. Baghdadi’s real name is Hamed Dawood Mohammed Khalil al-Zawi; he was born in 1959. He used to work in the Iraqi security corps, then left after he embraced Salafist ideology in 1985. He was one of the most prominent promoters of Salafist ideology. He was made head of Jaish al-Taefa al-Mansoura then swore allegiance to al-Qaeda in Mesopotamia, which later formed, with other groups, the Mujahedeen Shura Council in Iraq.

After Zarqawi was killed, Baghdadi was appointed as that council’s emir under the name of Abu Abdullah al-Rashed al-Baghdadi. He was then made head of ISI. In 2010, the ISI’s ministry of Sharia matters announced that Baghdadi had been killed. Afterward, the Mujahedeen Shura Council swore allegiance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi as ISI’s emir.

 

[Osomir]

so your calling the star of david is the solomon seal is "your" interpretation and not based on fact

the connection to solomon is that david was his father, house of david nothing more. No demons, no magic.

But the Harmony Center told him! He has these very reliable irrefutable sources!

The Harmony Program is a collection of primary sources. They are literally written by terrorists. by arguing against the Harmony Program, you are literally arguing against those in Al Qaeda and ISIS who you were previously claiming to speak for.

Ya right. The "terrorists" have nothing better to do but write love letters to West Point University.

Terrorists write to each other all of the time. they also produce material for public consumption all of the time and publish extensive works on Jihadi forums where they debate ideology. We also have documents captured in raids or obtained through spy networks. One famous incident of battle captured documents are the Abbottabad letters which were captured when Osama bin Laden was killed and which I utilized agianst you in my earlier arguments concerning the differences between ISIS and Al Qaeda. You were literally arguing against Osama bin Laden's own writings.

Ooooo. Do I need a Harmony Center to tell me that that these are all Islamic supremacist terrorist organizations, competing for which one of their warped ideologies wins the mantle of Islam? No I don't.

Your disdain for knowledge is once again causing your insecurities to show, and given how often you have gotten basics wrong you probably should read more on the subjects at hand if you wish to have any significant understanding of the issues. the fact that you could argue directly against something that Osama bin Laden himself wrote while claiming to speak for him or argue against the content of Khomeini's speeches while also claiming to speak for him is rather indicative that you aren't as familiar with these individuals and their ideologies as you think you are.

 

[mudwhistle]

The non-muslim and secular historical evidence for the existence of Prophet Muhammad is overwhelming. .....

What came first .... Jerusalem or Muhammad?
Saul and king David established Jerusalem as the capital around 1500 years before Muhammad was born.
Jerusalem never belonged to Muhammad.

 

[Roudy]

But the Harmony Center told him! He has these very reliable irrefutable sources!

The Harmony Program is a collection of primary sources. They are literally written by terrorists. by arguing against the Harmony Program, you are literally arguing against those in Al Qaeda and ISIS who you were previously claiming to speak for.

Ya right. The "terrorists" have nothing better to do but write love letters to West Point University.

Terrorists write to each other all of the time. they also produce material for public consumption all of the time and publish extensive works on Jihadi forums where they debate ideology. We also have documents captured in raids or obtained through spy networks. One famous incident of battle captured documents are the Abbottabad letters which were captured when Osama bin Laden was killed and which I utilized agianst you in my earlier arguments concerning the differences between ISIS and Al Qaeda. You were literally arguing against Osama bin Laden's own writings.

Ooooo. Do I need a Harmony Center to tell me that that these are all Islamic supremacist terrorist organizations, competing for which one of their warped ideologies wins the mantle of Islam? No I don't.

Your disdain for knowledge is once again causing your insecurities to show, and given how often you have gotten basics wrong you probably should read more on the subjects at hand if you wish to have any significant understanding of the issues. the fact that you could argue directly against something that Osama bin Laden himself wrote while claiming to speak for him or argue against the content of Khomeini's speeches while also claiming to speak for him is rather indicative that you aren't as familiar with these individuals and their ideologies as you think you are.

The ramblings of a mass murderer in hiding and out of touch, jealous that one of his crew had betrayed the organization and achieved more than him.

 

[Osomir]

The Harmony Program is a collection of primary sources. They are literally written by terrorists. by arguing against the Harmony Program, you are literally arguing against those in Al Qaeda and ISIS who you were previously claiming to speak for.

Ya right. The "terrorists" have nothing better to do but write love letters to West Point University.

Terrorists write to each other all of the time. they also produce material for public consumption all of the time and publish extensive works on Jihadi forums where they debate ideology. We also have documents captured in raids or obtained through spy networks. One famous incident of battle captured documents are the Abbottabad letters which were captured when Osama bin Laden was killed and which I utilized agianst you in my earlier arguments concerning the differences between ISIS and Al Qaeda. You were literally arguing against Osama bin Laden's own writings.

Ooooo. Do I need a Harmony Center to tell me that that these are all Islamic supremacist terrorist organizations, competing for which one of their warped ideologies wins the mantle of Islam? No I don't.

Your disdain for knowledge is once again causing your insecurities to show, and given how often you have gotten basics wrong you probably should read more on the subjects at hand if you wish to have any significant understanding of the issues. the fact that you could argue directly against something that Osama bin Laden himself wrote while claiming to speak for him or argue against the content of Khomeini's speeches while also claiming to speak for him is rather indicative that you aren't as familiar with these individuals and their ideologies as you think you are.

The ramblings of a mass murderer in hiding and out of touch, jealous that one of his crew had betrayed the organization and achieved more than him.

You've never actually read the original works of the people who you are claiming to speak for before, have you?

 

[Roudy]

But the Harmony Center told him! He has these very reliable irrefutable sources!

The Harmony Program is a collection of primary sources. They are literally written by terrorists. by arguing against the Harmony Program, you are literally arguing against those in Al Qaeda and ISIS who you were previously claiming to speak for.

Ya right. The "terrorists" have nothing better to do but write love letters to West Point University.

Terrorists write to each other all of the time. they also produce material for public consumption all of the time and publish extensive works on Jihadi forums where they debate ideology. We also have documents captured in raids or obtained through spy networks. One famous incident of battle captured documents are the Abbottabad letters which were captured when Osama bin Laden was killed and which I utilized agianst you in my earlier arguments concerning the differences between ISIS and Al Qaeda. You were literally arguing against Osama bin Laden's own writings.

Ooooo. Do I need a Harmony Center to tell me that that these are all Islamic supremacist terrorist organizations, competing for which one of their warped ideologies wins the mantle of Islam? No I don't.

Your disdain for knowledge is once again causing your insecurities to show, and given how often you have gotten basics wrong you probably should read more on the subjects at hand if you wish to have any significant understanding of the issues. the fact that you could argue directly against something that Osama bin Laden himself wrote while claiming to speak for him or argue against the content of Khomeini's speeches while also claiming to speak for him is rather indicative that you aren't as familiar with these individuals and their ideologies as you think you are.

I feel very insecure that I'm not a Koranic scholar like you are. I always wanted to study Mohammads Mein Kampf in detail.

 

[Roudy]

Ya right. The "terrorists" have nothing better to do but write love letters to West Point University.

Terrorists write to each other all of the time. they also produce material for public consumption all of the time and publish extensive works on Jihadi forums where they debate ideology. We also have documents captured in raids or obtained through spy networks. One famous incident of battle captured documents are the Abbottabad letters which were captured when Osama bin Laden was killed and which I utilized agianst you in my earlier arguments concerning the differences between ISIS and Al Qaeda. You were literally arguing against Osama bin Laden's own writings.

Ooooo. Do I need a Harmony Center to tell me that that these are all Islamic supremacist terrorist organizations, competing for which one of their warped ideologies wins the mantle of Islam? No I don't.

Your disdain for knowledge is once again causing your insecurities to show, and given how often you have gotten basics wrong you probably should read more on the subjects at hand if you wish to have any significant understanding of the issues. the fact that you could argue directly against something that Osama bin Laden himself wrote while claiming to speak for him or argue against the content of Khomeini's speeches while also claiming to speak for him is rather indicative that you aren't as familiar with these individuals and their ideologies as you think you are.

The ramblings of a mass murderer in hiding and out of touch, jealous that one of his crew had betrayed the organization and achieved more than him.

You've never actually read the original works of the people who you are claiming to speak for before, have you?

No. Is that a prerequirement at the university of stupidity?

 

[Osomir]

The non-muslim and secular historical evidence for the existence of Prophet Muhammad is overwhelming. .....

What came first .... Jerusalem or Muhammad?
Saul and king David established Jerusalem as the capital around 1500 years before Muhammad was born.
Jerusalem never belonged to Muhammad.

According to that logic the city doesn't belong to Jews either since it existed before Joshua's invasion. Personally, I don't think it "belongs" to any religion.

 

[Osomir]

Terrorists write to each other all of the time. they also produce material for public consumption all of the time and publish extensive works on Jihadi forums where they debate ideology. We also have documents captured in raids or obtained through spy networks. One famous incident of battle captured documents are the Abbottabad letters which were captured when Osama bin Laden was killed and which I utilized agianst you in my earlier arguments concerning the differences between ISIS and Al Qaeda. You were literally arguing against Osama bin Laden's own writings.

Ooooo. Do I need a Harmony Center to tell me that that these are all Islamic supremacist terrorist organizations, competing for which one of their warped ideologies wins the mantle of Islam? No I don't.

Your disdain for knowledge is once again causing your insecurities to show, and given how often you have gotten basics wrong you probably should read more on the subjects at hand if you wish to have any significant understanding of the issues. the fact that you could argue directly against something that Osama bin Laden himself wrote while claiming to speak for him or argue against the content of Khomeini's speeches while also claiming to speak for him is rather indicative that you aren't as familiar with these individuals and their ideologies as you think you are.

The ramblings of a mass murderer in hiding and out of touch, jealous that one of his crew had betrayed the organization and achieved more than him.

You've never actually read the original works of the people who you are claiming to speak for before, have you?

No. Is that a prerequirement at the university of stupidity?

It is a prerequisite of knowing what you are talking about when it comes to the subject.

 

[Osomir]

The Harmony Program is a collection of primary sources. They are literally written by terrorists. by arguing against the Harmony Program, you are literally arguing against those in Al Qaeda and ISIS who you were previously claiming to speak for.

Ya right. The "terrorists" have nothing better to do but write love letters to West Point University.

Terrorists write to each other all of the time. they also produce material for public consumption all of the time and publish extensive works on Jihadi forums where they debate ideology. We also have documents captured in raids or obtained through spy networks. One famous incident of battle captured documents are the Abbottabad letters which were captured when Osama bin Laden was killed and which I utilized agianst you in my earlier arguments concerning the differences between ISIS and Al Qaeda. You were literally arguing against Osama bin Laden's own writings.

Ooooo. Do I need a Harmony Center to tell me that that these are all Islamic supremacist terrorist organizations, competing for which one of their warped ideologies wins the mantle of Islam? No I don't.

Your disdain for knowledge is once again causing your insecurities to show, and given how often you have gotten basics wrong you probably should read more on the subjects at hand if you wish to have any significant understanding of the issues. the fact that you could argue directly against something that Osama bin Laden himself wrote while claiming to speak for him or argue against the content of Khomeini's speeches while also claiming to speak for him is rather indicative that you aren't as familiar with these individuals and their ideologies as you think you are.

I feel very insecure that I'm not a Koranic scholar like you are. I always wanted to study Mohammads Mein Kampf in detail.

If you know yourself but not your enemy then for every victory you have you will also suffer a defeat.

 

[mudwhistle]

The non-muslim and secular historical evidence for the existence of Prophet Muhammad is overwhelming. .....

What came first .... Jerusalem or Muhammad?
Saul and king David established Jerusalem as the capital around 1500 years before Muhammad was born.
Jerusalem never belonged to Muhammad.

According to that logic the city doesn't belong to Jews either since it existed before Joshua's invasion. Personally, I don't think it "belongs" to any religion.

It belongs to Israel. Try taking it from them.

 

[Roudy]

Ooooo. Do I need a Harmony Center to tell me that that these are all Islamic supremacist terrorist organizations, competing for which one of their warped ideologies wins the mantle of Islam? No I don't.

Your disdain for knowledge is once again causing your insecurities to show, and given how often you have gotten basics wrong you probably should read more on the subjects at hand if you wish to have any significant understanding of the issues. the fact that you could argue directly against something that Osama bin Laden himself wrote while claiming to speak for him or argue against the content of Khomeini's speeches while also claiming to speak for him is rather indicative that you aren't as familiar with these individuals and their ideologies as you think you are.

The ramblings of a mass murderer in hiding and out of touch, jealous that one of his crew had betrayed the organization and achieved more than him.

You've never actually read the original works of the people who you are claiming to speak for before, have you?

No. Is that a prerequirement at the university of stupidity?

It is a prerequisite of knowing what you are talking about when it comes to the subject.

What subject is that? That ISIS is an offshoot of Al Queda? That's a fact jack.

 

[Osomir]

The non-muslim and secular historical evidence for the existence of Prophet Muhammad is overwhelming. .....

What came first .... Jerusalem or Muhammad?
Saul and king David established Jerusalem as the capital around 1500 years before Muhammad was born.
Jerusalem never belonged to Muhammad.

According to that logic the city doesn't belong to Jews either since it existed before Joshua's invasion. Personally, I don't think it "belongs" to any religion.

It belongs to Israel. Try taking it from them.

I agree that they have a right to Western Jerusalem.

 

[Osomir]

Your disdain for knowledge is once again causing your insecurities to show, and given how often you have gotten basics wrong you probably should read more on the subjects at hand if you wish to have any significant understanding of the issues. the fact that you could argue directly against something that Osama bin Laden himself wrote while claiming to speak for him or argue against the content of Khomeini's speeches while also claiming to speak for him is rather indicative that you aren't as familiar with these individuals and their ideologies as you think you are.

The ramblings of a mass murderer in hiding and out of touch, jealous that one of his crew had betrayed the organization and achieved more than him.

You've never actually read the original works of the people who you are claiming to speak for before, have you?

No. Is that a prerequirement at the university of stupidity?

It is a prerequisite of knowing what you are talking about when it comes to the subject.

What subject is that? That ISIS is an offshoot of Al Queda? That's a fact jack.

Islamism, terrorism, conflict, Islam in general. Your self confidence in the face of your admitted lack of study on the subject is a bit piteous.

 

[Roudy]

Ya right. The "terrorists" have nothing better to do but write love letters to West Point University.

Terrorists write to each other all of the time. they also produce material for public consumption all of the time and publish extensive works on Jihadi forums where they debate ideology. We also have documents captured in raids or obtained through spy networks. One famous incident of battle captured documents are the Abbottabad letters which were captured when Osama bin Laden was killed and which I utilized agianst you in my earlier arguments concerning the differences between ISIS and Al Qaeda. You were literally arguing against Osama bin Laden's own writings.

Ooooo. Do I need a Harmony Center to tell me that that these are all Islamic supremacist terrorist organizations, competing for which one of their warped ideologies wins the mantle of Islam? No I don't.

Your disdain for knowledge is once again causing your insecurities to show, and given how often you have gotten basics wrong you probably should read more on the subjects at hand if you wish to have any significant understanding of the issues. the fact that you could argue directly against something that Osama bin Laden himself wrote while claiming to speak for him or argue against the content of Khomeini's speeches while also claiming to speak for him is rather indicative that you aren't as familiar with these individuals and their ideologies as you think you are.

I feel very insecure that I'm not a Koranic scholar like you are. I always wanted to study Mohammads Mein Kampf in detail.

If you know yourself but not your enemy then for every victory you have you will also suffer a defeat.

Like I said I know the enemy very well, on a personal level.

I just find it very revealing that a Koranic scholar like you profess to be, with all these West Point connections, can't admit the basic fact that even the Koran states that Jerusalem and Israel belong to the Jews.

Som ting wong wid dis picture.

 

[mudwhistle]

The non-muslim and secular historical evidence for the existence of Prophet Muhammad is overwhelming. .....

What came first .... Jerusalem or Muhammad?
Saul and king David established Jerusalem as the capital around 1500 years before Muhammad was born.
Jerusalem never belonged to Muhammad.

According to that logic the city doesn't belong to Jews either since it existed before Joshua's invasion. Personally, I don't think it "belongs" to any religion.

It belongs to Israel. Try taking it from them.

I agree that they have a right to Western Jerusalem.

And Mexico has the right to California.

Figure the odds.

 

[Osomir]

Terrorists write to each other all of the time. they also produce material for public consumption all of the time and publish extensive works on Jihadi forums where they debate ideology. We also have documents captured in raids or obtained through spy networks. One famous incident of battle captured documents are the Abbottabad letters which were captured when Osama bin Laden was killed and which I utilized agianst you in my earlier arguments concerning the differences between ISIS and Al Qaeda. You were literally arguing against Osama bin Laden's own writings.

Ooooo. Do I need a Harmony Center to tell me that that these are all Islamic supremacist terrorist organizations, competing for which one of their warped ideologies wins the mantle of Islam? No I don't.

Your disdain for knowledge is once again causing your insecurities to show, and given how often you have gotten basics wrong you probably should read more on the subjects at hand if you wish to have any significant understanding of the issues. the fact that you could argue directly against something that Osama bin Laden himself wrote while claiming to speak for him or argue against the content of Khomeini's speeches while also claiming to speak for him is rather indicative that you aren't as familiar with these individuals and their ideologies as you think you are.

I feel very insecure that I'm not a Koranic scholar like you are. I always wanted to study Mohammads Mein Kampf in detail.

If you know yourself but not your enemy then for every victory you have you will also suffer a defeat.

Like I said I know the enemy very well, on a personal level.

You know the enemy well, but have never studied the subject, read any of their writings, and couldn't recognize their own stated ideological structures when I directly quoted them to you? Those are some pretty low standards you have regarding whether or not you can be said to know something "well".