I am in the Netherlands:The Good and the Bad

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My wife talked me into a trip to the Netherlands where I have been for the past four days. As you may know, I am a bright red conservative, and as such, I keep an open mind, ready to process empirical facts.

The Good:
1). First class drinking water. Best in the world. No need for bottled water here. Straight out of the tap is perfect.
2). The food; no added chemicals, limited or no preservatives, very little sugar added. Nutella is a prime example. In the states, it’s inedible because of the sugar. In Europe it has more hazelnuts, less sugar. Food is the one area in which Europe is superior to the US. RFK Jr is using Europe as the model for getting junk out of the foods.
3). No panhandling in Amsterdam. I’ve heard it is illegal.
4). Cool climate. Highs every day have been at 70.
5). Bicycles everywhere. Very few obese people. Everyone has ridden a bike since toddlerhood. Streets are lined with parked bikes. Intersections are jammed with bikes. This has to be a boost for the healthcare system.
6). Major crackdown on immigration
7). For a leftist country, there aren’t that many ridiculous restrictions. Bikers didn’t wear helmets, you can drink outside, no guardrails beside the canals, no handicapped crossings or parking spots, no tipping expected. It’s sort of like America in the 1970s.
8). Powerful capitalist history, yet it is hamstrung by atheism and socialist policies.
9). The people are pretty nice.

The Bad:
1) Backbreaking taxes: 49.1% top marginal rate, 37% tax on unrealized capital gains. Total deal breaker.
2). Moral permissiveness. Every deviant behavior is allowed and encouraged here. Trans, gay, fornication, prostitution, cohabitation. Mostly irreligious. Fewer churches than you would expect for an old city. Very little traditional marriage. Mostly cohabitation.
3). Massive flooding of Muslim immigrants. 150 Christian churches have been burned down by immigrants, said our guide. Huge overcrowding problems from past open border policy, which they are being forced to correct.
4). The sidewalks are uneven. You’re constantly tripping. The zillions of bikes whizzing past are a menace coming out of nowhere You have to be on high alert in all directions just walking down the street.
5) Pot is everywhere. Legal in the Netherlands of course. Technically illegal to smoke in public, but it isn’t enforced.

Conclusion. Unfortunately the bad outweighs the good. It’s OK to visit, but I couldn’t live here.
 
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My wife talked me into a trip to the Netherlands where I have been for the past four days. As you may know, I am a bright red conservative, and as such, I keep an open mind, ready to process empirical facts.

The Good:
1). First class drinking water. Best in the world. No need for bottled water here. Straight out of the tap is perfect.
2). The food; no added chemicals, limited or no preservatives, very little sugar added. Nutella is a prime example. In the states, it’s inedible because of the sugar. In Europe it has more hazelnuts, less sugar. Food is the one area in which Europe is superior to the US. RFK Jr is using Europe as the model for getting junk out of the foods.
3). No panhandling in Amsterdam. I’ve heard it is illegal.
4). Cool climate. Highs every day have been at 70.
5). Bicycles everywhere. Very few obese people. Everyone has ridden a bike since toddlerhood. Streets are lined with parked bikes. Intersections are jammed with bikes. This has to be a boost for the healthcare system.
6). Major crackdown on immigration
7). For a leftist country, there aren’t that many ridiculous restrictions. Bikers didn’t wear helmets, you can drink outside, no guardrails beside the canals, no handicapped crossings or parking spots, no tipping expected. It’s sort of like America in the 1970s.
8). Powerful capitalist history, yet it is hamstrung by atheism and socialist policies.
9). The people are pretty nice.

The Bad:
1) Backbreaking taxes: 49.1% top marginal rate, 37% tax on unrealized capital gains. Total deal breaker.
2). Moral permissiveness. Every deviant behavior is allowed and encouraged here. Trans, gay, fornication, prostitution, cohabitation. Mostly irreligious. Fewer churches than you would expect for an old city. Very little traditional marriage. Mostly cohabitation.
3). Massive flooding of Muslim immigrants. 150 Christian churches have been burned down by immigrants, said our guide. Huge overcrowding problems from past open border policy, which they are being forced to correct.
4). The sidewalks are uneven. You’re constantly tripping. The zillions of bikes whizzing past are a menace coming out of nowhere You have to be on high alert in all directions just walking down the street.
5) Pot is everywhere. Legal in the Netherlands of course. Technically illegal to smoke in public, but it isn’t enforced.

Conclusion. Unfortunately the bad outweighs the good. It’s OK to visit, but I couldn’t live here.
I have been there also.
I was impressed with how clean and well maintained it was.
The people there are very friendly and they can and will speak English to you.
It's sad to see Europe being colonized by the backwards 6th century barbarians.
 
2). Moral permissiveness. Every deviant behavior is allowed and encouraged here. Trans, gay, fornication, prostitution, cohabitation. Mostly irreligious. Fewer churches than you would expect for an old city. Very little traditional marriage. Mostly cohabitation.
Too much freedom is a huge negative for American fundies

 
I’ve seen that ā€œhappiest countriesā€ nonsense before. The assumption is the whole leftwing wish list makes you happy; LGBTQ privilege, socialized healthcare, attention to the climate change hoax. I guess temporary relationships, Muslim takeover, and soaring taxes make people happy too.
 
Hey. I acknowledge the good things Europe does. I will say the US caters too much to lazy obese fatasses. Handicapped everything. In Europe, lots of walking is assumed. Climbing stairs is assumed. Smaller portions healthier food.
 
Hey. I acknowledge the good things Europe does. I will say the US caters too much to lazy obese fatasses. Handicapped everything. In Europe, lots of walking is assumed. Climbing stairs is assumed. Smaller portions healthier food.
Netherlands has good biking infrastructure, although Amsterdam is small and crowded. The best biking infrastructure is in Germany, where you have a sidewalk and a dedicated bike lane next to it snaking their way through every city.
 
My wife talked me into a trip to the Netherlands where I have been for the past four days. As you may know, I am a bright red conservative, and as such, I keep an open mind, ready to process empirical facts.

The Good:
1). First class drinking water. Best in the world. No need for bottled water here. Straight out of the tap is perfect.
2). The food; no added chemicals, limited or no preservatives, very little sugar added. Nutella is a prime example. In the states, it’s inedible because of the sugar. In Europe it has more hazelnuts, less sugar. Food is the one area in which Europe is superior to the US. RFK Jr is using Europe as the model for getting junk out of the foods.
3). No panhandling in Amsterdam. I’ve heard it is illegal.
4). Cool climate. Highs every day have been at 70.
5). Bicycles everywhere. Very few obese people. Everyone has ridden a bike since toddlerhood. Streets are lined with parked bikes. Intersections are jammed with bikes. This has to be a boost for the healthcare system.
6). Major crackdown on immigration
7). For a leftist country, there aren’t that many ridiculous restrictions. Bikers didn’t wear helmets, you can drink outside, no guardrails beside the canals, no handicapped crossings or parking spots, no tipping expected. It’s sort of like America in the 1970s.
8). Powerful capitalist history, yet it is hamstrung by atheism and socialist policies.
9). The people are pretty nice.

The Bad:
1) Backbreaking taxes: 49.1% top marginal rate, 37% tax on unrealized capital gains. Total deal breaker.
2). Moral permissiveness. Every deviant behavior is allowed and encouraged here. Trans, gay, fornication, prostitution, cohabitation. Mostly irreligious. Fewer churches than you would expect for an old city. Very little traditional marriage. Mostly cohabitation.
3). Massive flooding of Muslim immigrants. 150 Christian churches have been burned down by immigrants, said our guide. Huge overcrowding problems from past open border policy, which they are being forced to correct.
4). The sidewalks are uneven. You’re constantly tripping. The zillions of bikes whizzing past are a menace coming out of nowhere You have to be on high alert in all directions just walking down the street.
5) Pot is everywhere. Legal in the Netherlands of course. Technically illegal to smoke in public, but it isn’t enforced.

Conclusion. Unfortunately the bad outweighs the good. It’s OK to visit, but I couldn’t live here.
The Dutch? Not Much!
 
My wife talked me into a trip to the Netherlands where I have been for the past four days. As you may know, I am a bright red conservative, and as such, I keep an open mind, ready to process empirical facts.

The Good:
1). First class drinking water. Best in the world. No need for bottled water here. Straight out of the tap is perfect.
2). The food; no added chemicals, limited or no preservatives, very little sugar added. Nutella is a prime example. In the states, it’s inedible because of the sugar. In Europe it has more hazelnuts, less sugar. Food is the one area in which Europe is superior to the US. RFK Jr is using Europe as the model for getting junk out of the foods.
3). No panhandling in Amsterdam. I’ve heard it is illegal.
4). Cool climate. Highs every day have been at 70.
5). Bicycles everywhere. Very few obese people. Everyone has ridden a bike since toddlerhood. Streets are lined with parked bikes. Intersections are jammed with bikes. This has to be a boost for the healthcare system.
6). Major crackdown on immigration
7). For a leftist country, there aren’t that many ridiculous restrictions. Bikers didn’t wear helmets, you can drink outside, no guardrails beside the canals, no handicapped crossings or parking spots, no tipping expected. It’s sort of like America in the 1970s.
8). Powerful capitalist history, yet it is hamstrung by atheism and socialist policies.
9). The people are pretty nice.

The Bad:
1) Backbreaking taxes: 49.1% top marginal rate, 37% tax on unrealized capital gains. Total deal breaker.
2). Moral permissiveness. Every deviant behavior is allowed and encouraged here. Trans, gay, fornication, prostitution, cohabitation. Mostly irreligious. Fewer churches than you would expect for an old city. Very little traditional marriage. Mostly cohabitation.
3). Massive flooding of Muslim immigrants. 150 Christian churches have been burned down by immigrants, said our guide. Huge overcrowding problems from past open border policy, which they are being forced to correct.
4). The sidewalks are uneven. You’re constantly tripping. The zillions of bikes whizzing past are a menace coming out of nowhere You have to be on high alert in all directions just walking down the street.
5) Pot is everywhere. Legal in the Netherlands of course. Technically illegal to smoke in public, but it isn’t enforced.

Conclusion. Unfortunately the bad outweighs the good. It’s OK to visit, but I couldn’t live here.
1. No society is perfect.
2. The only societies worth living in, are the ones where government is kept to the bare minimum
3. Mind altering and emotional altering drugs being made "legal" will have you being taken over by a more violent culture taking over.
 
Coming home from Europe guys. Every place I’ve been to has been sacked and destroyed repeatedly. The Catholic Churches, remarkably, have escaped destruction. Will be glad to return to the greatest country on earth, one that has never lost a war, never been destroyed by outside forces, and always wins like Trump.
 
My wife talked me into a trip to the Netherlands where I have been for the past four days. As you may know, I am a bright red conservative, and as such, I keep an open mind, ready to process empirical facts.

The Good:
1). First class drinking water. Best in the world. No need for bottled water here. Straight out of the tap is perfect.
2). The food; no added chemicals, limited or no preservatives, very little sugar added. Nutella is a prime example. In the states, it’s inedible because of the sugar. In Europe it has more hazelnuts, less sugar. Food is the one area in which Europe is superior to the US. RFK Jr is using Europe as the model for getting junk out of the foods.
3). No panhandling in Amsterdam. I’ve heard it is illegal.
4). Cool climate. Highs every day have been at 70.
5). Bicycles everywhere. Very few obese people. Everyone has ridden a bike since toddlerhood. Streets are lined with parked bikes. Intersections are jammed with bikes. This has to be a boost for the healthcare system.
6). Major crackdown on immigration
7). For a leftist country, there aren’t that many ridiculous restrictions. Bikers didn’t wear helmets, you can drink outside, no guardrails beside the canals, no handicapped crossings or parking spots, no tipping expected. It’s sort of like America in the 1970s.
8). Powerful capitalist history, yet it is hamstrung by atheism and socialist policies.
9). The people are pretty nice.

The Bad:
1) Backbreaking taxes: 49.1% top marginal rate, 37% tax on unrealized capital gains. Total deal breaker.
2). Moral permissiveness. Every deviant behavior is allowed and encouraged here. Trans, gay, fornication, prostitution, cohabitation. Mostly irreligious. Fewer churches than you would expect for an old city. Very little traditional marriage. Mostly cohabitation.
3). Massive flooding of Muslim immigrants. 150 Christian churches have been burned down by immigrants, said our guide. Huge overcrowding problems from past open border policy, which they are being forced to correct.
4). The sidewalks are uneven. You’re constantly tripping. The zillions of bikes whizzing past are a menace coming out of nowhere You have to be on high alert in all directions just walking down the street.
5) Pot is everywhere. Legal in the Netherlands of course. Technically illegal to smoke in public, but it isn’t enforced.

Conclusion. Unfortunately the bad outweighs the good. It’s OK to visit, but I couldn’t live here.
I know the Netherlands quite well, have visited for over 40 years and have friends there, it is a Country of extreme contrasts, sounds like you were just in Amsterdam, well that City isn't the Netherlands, i know the East near the German border in the province of Nord brabantand where my friends live and the Arnhem area and the Coast in South Holland, a lot of the stuff you find in Amsterdam you won't see on other areas, by and large i find the people friendly and accommodating, i also like the food including the herrings, the video shows the coastal area i visited many times,weather a little rough today but i have had great weather from springtime and the town is close to the flower growing area and a bus ride to the Hague, i was lucky i had my car with me so could visit many places.

 
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I know the Netherlands quite well, have visited for over 40 years and have friends there, it is a Country of extreme contrasts, sounds like you were just in Amsterdam, well that City isn't the Netherlands, i know the East near the German border in the province of Nord brabantand where my friends live and the Arnhem area and the Coast in South Holland, a lot of the stuff you find in Amsterdam you won't see on other areas, by and large i find the people friendly and accommodating, i also like the food including the herrings, the video shows the coastal area i visited many times,weather a little rough today but i have had great weather from springtime and the town is close to the flower growing area and a bus ride to the Hague, i was lucky i had my car with me so could visit many places.


We visited other parts. Everything I listed is characteristic of the Netherlands as it is Amsterdam except for the urban bike congestion and danger to pedestrians.
 
Thanks for the detailed assessment.

If someone asked me if I wanted to visit the Netherlands my first and last question would be "why"?
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A lot of cool sights. Plus everyone is really tall and the food is good.
 
I was in Amsterdam on December 31, 1999. It was so jam packed with shady people that I hoped to survive the night. Everything was fine, but I do not like being amongst crowds like that, it was so crazy. As a side note, there were fears of terrorism back then too, I remember we found out the trains were shut down and the taxi's could not keep up, we found a couple of really cool Muslim guys to drive us all the way back to our room in Leiden for a decent price. The driver was in the Dutch Army and speaking to his friend in Arabic as we drove. We chatted most of the way, too.

Turned out they saved our asses or we would have never found a room in Amsterdam, and it was freezing outside.
 
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We visited other parts. Everything I listed is characteristic of the Netherlands as it is Amsterdam except for the urban bike congestion and danger to pedestrians.
This is the small town where my friends live and i have visited for many years in Noord brabant it's hard to believe but there isn't even a police station in the town, the the provincial capital is Hertogendenbosch, i am interested in WW2 so there are many sites connected to the war to visit, including Grave where the 82nd airborne took the bridge as part of operation market garden.
 
I was in Amsterdam on December 31, 1999. It was so jam packed with shady people that I hoped to survive the night. Everything was fine, but I do not like being amongst crowds like that, it was so crazy. As a side note, there were fears of terrorism back then too, I remember we found out the trains were shut down and the taxi's could not keep up, we found a couple of really cool Muslim guys to drive us all the way back to our room in Leiden for a decent price. The driver was in the Dutch Army and speaking to his friend in Arabic as we drove. We chatted most of the way, too.

Turned out they saved our asses or we would have never found a room in Amsterdam, and it was freezing outside.
Interesting, one place to be careful in Amsterdam is outside the Central railway station, i saw people near there dealing drugs on the street, one rule i had in those days when i visited there was not to look like a tourist.
 
Interesting, one place to be careful in Amsterdam is outside the Central railway station, i saw people near there dealing drugs on the street, one rule i had in those days when i visited there was not to look like a tourist.
Oh man, they were everywhere. The first person who asked me for money once I got off the train was a homeless American, of all people.
 
I’ve seen that ā€œhappiest countriesā€ nonsense before. The assumption is the whole leftwing wish list makes you happy; LGBTQ privilege, socialized healthcare, attention to the climate change hoax. I guess temporary relationships, Muslim takeover, and soaring taxes make people happy too.
Yes, once in a while, these studies or surveys turn up to show that people in liberal countries are the happiest.

Could be.

But here in the United States, people on that side of the political spectrum have by far the most diagnoses of depression and take the most SSRI's.
 
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