Owners of second homes in Wales are having to sell up. That’s no disaster: it’s a godsend

[Tommy Tainant]

IN Canada its very common for people in Ontario to have little lake cabins. Is this similar?

Not quite. We have some log cabin places here. More usual static caravans. When I was growing up having a caravan "up the coast" was a sign you had made it. Still is for many.
But these are temporary places and were never meant for long term habitation.
The second homes causing the problems are in the heart of the village and were once inhabited by whole families.
rich folk buy them cheaply because property is cheaper over here. They come over for the weekend and fill their SUV with groceries so they dont add anything to the community.
The village becomes a ghost town. Pubs close, shops and then schools. There isnt much left in the village at that stage.
And its self fulfilling. Lack of amenities and places to live means youngsters move to the cities. So it gets worse.
Its been going on for years. But now folk can work from home there a chance to rebuild.

 

[marvin martian]

A large part of our population is foreign. We welcome visitors.

LOL

 

[GLASNOST]

I wouldn't mind having a flat in Cardiff as long as the plumbing works properly, it isn't situated on the High Street or over a pub.

 

[Meathead]

Owners of second homes in Wales are having to sell up. That’s no disaster: it’s a godsend | Will Hayward

Council tax hikes on holiday homes aren’t ‘anti-English’ or detrimental to tourism. This is about preserving embattled communities, says Guardian columnist Will Hayward

www.theguardian.com

Its good that this is happening and that young people in Wales can find homes in their own communities.
Put simply its not economic for the settler class to buy up Weldh houses and leave them empty for most of the year.
Great.
Wales is following the lead of places like Barcelona and Venice in this.Its only right that visitors should pay their share.
After english moronic criticism of the policy it appears that they are adopting it too.
An all round win for the Welsh.

So who's buying them, poor people?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

LOL

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The majority of settlers are english. Your little map doesnt show that.

 

[CowboyTed]

You know you could just build more houses instead of punishing those who can afford two.

The problem it creates these ghost villages in these seaside villages with a lot of the houses empty for long periods...

It is no problem if there are separate places but they really destroy villages...

Europe likes to build closely knit communities of people of diverse incomes and backgrounds... This is unlike US...

 

[CowboyTed]

IN Canada its very common for people in Ontario to have little lake cabins. Is this similar?

Kind off...

But the main difference is they have there cabins outside the main local towns (were all year round residents live)... In UK they only allow building in towns and villages and this causes these towns to be majority owned as holiday homes... IT makes them very depressing places in Winter..

Lake Cabins are away from this and makes them much better Idea...

The compromise in UK and Ireland is the Caravan or Chatel villages which are empty in winter but are just outside villages and towns.. that work for everyone except the richer element..

 

[Deadstick]

I wouldn't mind having a flat in Cardiff as long as the plumbing works properly, it isn't situated on the High Street or over a pub.

 

[marvin martian]

The majority of settlers are english. Your little map doesnt show that.

LOL

• On Census Day, 21 March 2021, 2.9 million usual residents in Wales identified within the high-level ethnic group category “White” (93.8% of the population, compared to 95.6% in 2011). 90.6% of the population identified as “White: Welsh, English, Scottish, Northern Irish or British” in 2021.

Ethnic group, national identity, language and religion in Wales (Census 2021) [HTML] | GOV.WALES

Population and household estimates by ethnic group, national identity, main language and religion of residents and households in Wales from Census 2021.

www.gov.wales

 

[Tommy Tainant]

LOL

• On Census Day, 21 March 2021, 2.9 million usual residents in Wales identified within the high-level ethnic group category “White” (93.8% of the population, compared to 95.6% in 2011). 90.6% of the population identified as “White: Welsh, English, Scottish, Northern Irish or British” in 2021.

Ethnic group, national identity, language and religion in Wales (Census 2021) [HTML] | GOV.WALES

Population and household estimates by ethnic group, national identity, main language and religion of residents and households in Wales from Census 2021.

www.gov.wales

So immigrants have to be a different colour?

 

[Godboy]

So immigrants have to be a different colour?

No, color is not what you should be looking at. You need to determine if a culture is bad to bring into your nation, but you are a progressive who has no idea whats bad and whats good. You and your ilk RUINED your once great nation and there is no fixing it now. You are permanently stuck with a massively criminal population who despises British people and their culture.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

No, color is not what you should be looking at. You need to determine if a culture is bad to bring into your nation, but you are a progressive who has no idea whats bad and whats good. You and your ilk RUINED your once great nation and there is no fixing it now. You are permanently stuck with a massively criminal population who despises British people and their culture.

 

[BackAgain]

Owners of second homes in Wales are having to sell up. That’s no disaster: it’s a godsend | Will Hayward

Council tax hikes on holiday homes aren’t ‘anti-English’ or detrimental to tourism. This is about preserving embattled communities, says Guardian columnist Will Hayward

www.theguardian.com

Its good that this is happening and that young people in Wales can find homes in their own communities.
Put simply its not economic for the settler class to buy up Weldh houses and leave them empty for most of the year.
Great.
Wales is following the lead of places like Barcelona and Venice in this.Its only right that visitors should pay their share.
After english moronic criticism of the policy it appears that they are adopting it too.
An all round win for the Welsh.

So the state gets to decide how much property you are permitted to have because
…

reasons.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

British history is one of mainly cruelty and oppression. They enslaved half the world.It was nothing to be proud of. Like a confederacy lasting centuries. That sick.

 

[hadit]

We will have more room when we kick out the second home owners.

Interesting. You want to kick them out, not just prevent them from owning two homes. You do realize you're talking about removing wealth from your area, right?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Interesting. You want to kick them out, not just prevent them from owning two homes. You do realize you're talking about removing wealth from your area, right?

Where is the problem in that ?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

So the state gets to decide how much property you are permitted to have because
…

reasons.

Where are they being denied ownership ?

 

[hadit]

Where is the problem in that ?

Most people LIKE having more wealth in their areas. It tends to keep more businesses open, have more businesses start, get more people hired, working jobs, providing goods and services, things like that. But hey, if that's not what you want, you do you.

 

[BackAgain]

Where are they being denied ownership ?

Try to puzzle it out. You idiot.

 

[Deadstick]

So the state gets to decide how much property you are permitted to have because
…

reasons.

Of course not but most are empty year round, Wales isn't the only location where this is going on, Yorkshire Dales Scotland and Cornwall where some second home owners go down from London at weekends, local people have been priced out destroying the nature of villages.