Overweight children in America

% of Overweight or Obese Children In America. Is it....

  • 16%

    Votes: 1 16.7%
  • 33%

    Votes: 2 33.3%
  • 48%

    Votes: 1 16.7%
  • 59%

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • over 59%

    Votes: 2 33.3%

  • Total voters
    6
Yeah I figured this out when I dropped wheat from my diet, made no other dietary changes, in fact ate more in terms of volume --- and immediately dropped 30-40 pounds. Ventured back into wheat again, the weight came back. Dropped wheat yet again, and again the weight went away.

You tell me what the catalyst is there.

And no, it isn't as naïevely simplistic as "how many calories" and "how many are burned". The body is way more complex than that. It ain't like filling a gas tank; the process is paramount.

This just in: how the body processes fucked-up corporate foods is not a personal choice. So turn your question on its head: are the corporate giants who control the food supply ever responsible for anything?

Losing weight without wheat must be hard , it is in everything isn't it? I hope your not eating tofu.

Egad. You just reminded me I have tofu in the fridge getting old for lack of ideas what to do with it.

I'm not accustomed (by habit) to tofu or tempeh but I wouldn't mind incorporating them. Why not?

Yeah wheat is in a whole lot, and scanning ingredient labels for it eliminates a lot of choices, right down to soy sauce and beer. I've kinda transitioned from sandwiches to roll-ups -- same thing without the bread --- either that or spend the $$ on rice-based bread, which is.... eh.

It works much better with pasta, which I've been able to return to. :rock:

As I said, an eternal game of whack-a-mole, consumer versus Corporatia, and Corp always gets the first move; all we can do is try to react.

My last blood work was kinda weird. Triglycerides actually went up even though sugars went down. That's not supposed to trend that way. Doc says I could be eating too much rice. One thing after another. "more beans, less rice" she said. :banghead:


Pogo, I think your a woman..not sure but ....this is so very important.
Tofu , milk product, meats, are packed with estrogens...too many estrogens and you get cancer.

My cancer is estrogen positive, meaning my cancer is 90% estrogen..I just starting a fucking awful pill that strips estogens from my body..

even if you buy organic milk products the cows are pregnant in order to make milk, pumping out estrogens.


I'm sorry for your situation, wish you good thoughts and understand your concern but actually I think this is a myth---

>> Bowing at the temple of meat, men’s health magazines once frequently published articles that selectively skimmed for soy’s bad press, with topic favorites including isolated cases of (already health compromised) men with a high intake of soy developing breasts, and other reports of young soy dependent men having a lower libido and erectile dysfunction.

Such notions are based on the fact that soy contains phytoestrogen, and as such could supposedly undercut male testosterone. Yet, meta-analyses have shown that neither soy foods nor isoflavone supplements in fact alter normal levels of testosterone in men or impact estrogen concentration. There is also no known link between soy consumption and reduced fertility in men. << --- One Last Time: Soy Doesn't Make Men Gay

I have no hesitation to incorporating tofu/tempeh, just need a proper way to use it. I'm already using soy every day as a coffee creamer and other stuff (always organic non-GMO). I used to use soy milk (always unsweetened) for my cereals, now more often almond milk. All of that is good protein, and I believe in protein.

I was told to stay away from anything with soy by my Stanford oncologist..just saying..

Soybeans contain isoflavones, which are chemically similar to estrogens. Soybeans are a complete protein source and a dietary staple in many cultures. Soy contains phytoestrogens called isoflavones that may mimic the activity of the hormone estrogen in your body.

Yeah at least some of that was addressed in my link. It just punctuates that our knowledge base is limited and subject to conjecture, and presumably always will be. But as long as it's a natural food that Big Food hasn't yet pounced on and poisoned, I'm inclined to trust Nature.
 
Is there a bread that is not wheat? When I cut sugar out..I lose weight so easily..I love sweets though, I think I am addicted ..lol

The "gluten free" section, where it's made from rice, potato starch, or sometimes... corn. I avoid the corn, because again, that crop has been so polluted by Monsanto. Unless it can be guaranteed to be GMO-free, which is not an easy find. Again, more whack-a-mole.

I had a GMO thread somewhere and some jerks are always out there trying to discredit it..WTF

Paid corporate shills.
 
Yeah I figured this out when I dropped wheat from my diet, made no other dietary changes, in fact ate more in terms of volume --- and immediately dropped 30-40 pounds. Ventured back into wheat again, the weight came back. Dropped wheat yet again, and again the weight went away.

You tell me what the catalyst is there.

And no, it isn't as naïevely simplistic as "how many calories" and "how many are burned". The body is way more complex than that. It ain't like filling a gas tank; the process is paramount.

This just in: how the body processes fucked-up corporate foods is not a personal choice. So turn your question on its head: are the corporate giants who control the food supply ever responsible for anything?

Losing weight without wheat must be hard , it is in everything isn't it? I hope your not eating tofu.

Egad. You just reminded me I have tofu in the fridge getting old for lack of ideas what to do with it.

I'm not accustomed (by habit) to tofu or tempeh but I wouldn't mind incorporating them. Why not?

Yeah wheat is in a whole lot, and scanning ingredient labels for it eliminates a lot of choices, right down to soy sauce and beer. I've kinda transitioned from sandwiches to roll-ups -- same thing without the bread --- either that or spend the $$ on rice-based bread, which is.... eh.

It works much better with pasta, which I've been able to return to. :rock:

As I said, an eternal game of whack-a-mole, consumer versus Corporatia, and Corp always gets the first move; all we can do is try to react.

My last blood work was kinda weird. Triglycerides actually went up even though sugars went down. That's not supposed to trend that way. Doc says I could be eating too much rice. One thing after another. "more beans, less rice" she said. :banghead:
Sounds like you are still too high proportionally with the starches. Doctors typically don't know much about food, their training is a pill or a knife. Corporations sell what people buy, blaming them is lame, really. There are very healthy people living in the same environment you do.

Still slobbing the corporate knob no matter what like a good sycophant. :rolleyes: Well guess who morphed wheat into what it is. Here's a hint --- it wasn't the consumer.

My doc is an expert nutritionist actually. "Corporations sell what people buy" is the lie they live by. That would explain the existence of so-called SUVs huh? Because after all don't we remember the public demonstrations demanding Detroit come up with upside-down bathtubs that roll over if a mosquito sneezes. I sure don't.
You're a retard. You accept no responsibility for you own idiotic decisions so you need to blame someone else. I live in the same world you do Einstein, so do a lot of other healthy people. SUVS? Jesus, you are one dumb motherfucker.

Riiiight, I accept no repsonsiblity for not knowing how Big Food was changing wheat into a Frankenfood. What was I thinking. My fault entirely. Silly me.
 
Make Healthy Foods More Affordable?
Boycott unhealthy foods?
There ARE cheap healthy foods, maybe people need to be educated on that?
Bananas, eggs, etc.
I thought eggs were supposed to be bad for us?
We probably could make fresh foods more affordable if farmers would agree to sell ALL their produce, not just the perfect stuff. I'm appalled by how much good food gets thrown away.


Y'all know where so-called "baby carrots" come from?

They're turned that way on a lathe. Literally. Usually using carrots that some corporate suit has decided is not perfectly symmetrical and therefore "won't sell" -- maybe it grew at a weird angle (even though Nature knows perfectly well what She's doing) -- so those are then put on a lathe and turned into perfect little corporate cylinders. The mentality of that makes me wanna puke.

One grocery in my town has a bulk bin for carrots. I make sure to buy the most asymmetrical, "imperfect" ones, just to stab that kind of mentality in the back.
You ever grow carrots? I got one once with two legs. And another that was a round ball, more like an orange potato. The good thing about those fake baby carrots is you don't have to peel them and chop them before cooking or eating. They're great raw with peanut butter. Protein, fiber, vitamins--good snack.
 
Is there a bread that is not wheat? When I cut sugar out..I lose weight so easily..I love sweets though, I think I am addicted ..lol

Soda pop is another big culprit. IT has no nutritional value, people drink a lot of it, and it is LOADED with calories (that goes for diet sodas too). If people would cut soda out of their diets, they would lose some weight.

Yep, I won't touch anything like that. The insidious part is that when Coke advertises, Pepsi benefits and vice versa, because both ads are selling the idea of drinking soda. We can get lost on the trees of Coke vs. Pepsi and not see the subliminal message forest that they're both selling to the public

I do have the occasional Pepsi, like when I go out to dinner or something, but I only drink soda like once a month on average now. I used to be drink Pepsi every day and all the time. Whenever I was thirsty, I would go for the Pepsi with ice. I had noticed that I'd put on a little weight, and I couldn't figure it out because I never overeat, nor do I eat a lot of junk. As soon as I cut out the daily soda intake, the weight just fell off . . . . :dunno:
 
Make Healthy Foods More Affordable?
Boycott unhealthy foods?
There ARE cheap healthy foods, maybe people need to be educated on that?
Bananas, eggs, etc.
I thought eggs were supposed to be bad for us?
We probably could make fresh foods more affordable if farmers would agree to sell ALL their produce, not just the perfect stuff. I'm appalled by how much good food gets thrown away.


Y'all know where so-called "baby carrots" come from?

They're turned that way on a lathe. Literally. Usually using carrots that some corporate suit has decided is not perfectly symmetrical and therefore "won't sell" -- maybe it grew at a weird angle (even though Nature knows perfectly well what She's doing) -- so those are then put on a lathe and turned into perfect little corporate cylinders. The mentality of that makes me wanna puke.

One grocery in my town has a bulk bin for carrots. I make sure to buy the most asymmetrical, "imperfect" ones, just to stab that kind of mentality in the back.
You ever grow carrots? I got one once with two legs. And another that was a round ball, more like an orange potato. The good thing about those fake baby carrots is you don't have to peel them and chop them before cooking or eating. They're great raw with peanut butter. Protein, fiber, vitamins--good snack.

"Peel" carrots? :wtf:

I didn't even know they had skin. I just wash 'em and eat 'em.

I try to grow 'em sometimes, although my soil in these mountains is very rocky. But the flavor of fresh just can't be beat.

I like to dip 'em in hummus (don't tell Ben Carson :eusa_shifty: ) -- along with celery, bell pepper, cauliflower, broccoli and asparagus if I have it. That's the afternoon snack.
 
Make Healthy Foods More Affordable?
Boycott unhealthy foods?
There ARE cheap healthy foods, maybe people need to be educated on that?
Bananas, eggs, etc.
I thought eggs were supposed to be bad for us?
We probably could make fresh foods more affordable if farmers would agree to sell ALL their produce, not just the perfect stuff. I'm appalled by how much good food gets thrown away.


Y'all know where so-called "baby carrots" come from?

They're turned that way on a lathe. Literally. Usually using carrots that some corporate suit has decided is not perfectly symmetrical and therefore "won't sell" -- maybe it grew at a weird angle (even though Nature knows perfectly well what She's doing) -- so those are then put on a lathe and turned into perfect little corporate cylinders. The mentality of that makes me wanna puke.

One grocery in my town has a bulk bin for carrots. I make sure to buy the most asymmetrical, "imperfect" ones, just to stab that kind of mentality in the back.
You ever grow carrots? I got one once with two legs. And another that was a round ball, more like an orange potato. The good thing about those fake baby carrots is you don't have to peel them and chop them before cooking or eating. They're great raw with peanut butter. Protein, fiber, vitamins--good snack.

carrot-feet-682_1154771a.jpg
 
Make Healthy Foods More Affordable?
Boycott unhealthy foods?
There ARE cheap healthy foods, maybe people need to be educated on that?
Bananas, eggs, etc.
I thought eggs were supposed to be bad for us?
We probably could make fresh foods more affordable if farmers would agree to sell ALL their produce, not just the perfect stuff. I'm appalled by how much good food gets thrown away.


Y'all know where so-called "baby carrots" come from?

They're turned that way on a lathe. Literally. Usually using carrots that some corporate suit has decided is not perfectly symmetrical and therefore "won't sell" -- maybe it grew at a weird angle (even though Nature knows perfectly well what She's doing) -- so those are then put on a lathe and turned into perfect little corporate cylinders. The mentality of that makes me wanna puke.

One grocery in my town has a bulk bin for carrots. I make sure to buy the most asymmetrical, "imperfect" ones, just to stab that kind of mentality in the back.
You ever grow carrots? I got one once with two legs. And another that was a round ball, more like an orange potato. The good thing about those fake baby carrots is you don't have to peel them and chop them before cooking or eating. They're great raw with peanut butter. Protein, fiber, vitamins--good snack.

"Peel" carrots? :wtf:

I didn't even know they had skin. I just wash 'em and eat 'em.

I try to grow 'em sometimes, although my soil in these mountains is very rocky. But the flavor of fresh just can't be beat.

Yuck! The skin is so bitter! I always peel and cut them into sticks.
 
I grew up on the following:

American Chop Suey
Baked Mashed Potatoes over hot dogs in cheese
Corned Beef Hash with Eggs or Pineapple on top
Liver and Onions

Those are the dishes I remember...
Your folks worked for the carnival, didn't they?
We ALL grew up on those things--except you.
Bullshit. My mom was a so so cook. She thought veggies should strain through your fork. My epiphany started in college when I worked in food service at the VA hospital. Lots of folks were there with food related illnesses, especially diabetes. When you see a remarkable number of men and women with single and double leg amputations you start connecting the dots. At least I did.
NOBODY said your mom couldn't cook! That's how my mom liked her vegetables, too. LOL
 
Make Healthy Foods More Affordable?
Boycott unhealthy foods?
There ARE cheap healthy foods, maybe people need to be educated on that?
Bananas, eggs, etc.
I thought eggs were supposed to be bad for us?
We probably could make fresh foods more affordable if farmers would agree to sell ALL their produce, not just the perfect stuff. I'm appalled by how much good food gets thrown away.


Y'all know where so-called "baby carrots" come from?

They're turned that way on a lathe. Literally. Usually using carrots that some corporate suit has decided is not perfectly symmetrical and therefore "won't sell" -- maybe it grew at a weird angle (even though Nature knows perfectly well what She's doing) -- so those are then put on a lathe and turned into perfect little corporate cylinders. The mentality of that makes me wanna puke.

One grocery in my town has a bulk bin for carrots. I make sure to buy the most asymmetrical, "imperfect" ones, just to stab that kind of mentality in the back.
You ever grow carrots? I got one once with two legs. And another that was a round ball, more like an orange potato. The good thing about those fake baby carrots is you don't have to peel them and chop them before cooking or eating. They're great raw with peanut butter. Protein, fiber, vitamins--good snack.

"Peel" carrots? :wtf:

I didn't even know they had skin. I just wash 'em and eat 'em.

I try to grow 'em sometimes, although my soil in these mountains is very rocky. But the flavor of fresh just can't be beat.
I have been getting the organic bunches ..cut the tail wash and eat.

Have you heard of the chem trails..I think it is for real and metals are in our gardens.
 
Make Healthy Foods More Affordable?
Boycott unhealthy foods?
There ARE cheap healthy foods, maybe people need to be educated on that?
Bananas, eggs, etc.
I thought eggs were supposed to be bad for us?
We probably could make fresh foods more affordable if farmers would agree to sell ALL their produce, not just the perfect stuff. I'm appalled by how much good food gets thrown away.


Y'all know where so-called "baby carrots" come from?

They're turned that way on a lathe. Literally. Usually using carrots that some corporate suit has decided is not perfectly symmetrical and therefore "won't sell" -- maybe it grew at a weird angle (even though Nature knows perfectly well what She's doing) -- so those are then put on a lathe and turned into perfect little corporate cylinders. The mentality of that makes me wanna puke.

One grocery in my town has a bulk bin for carrots. I make sure to buy the most asymmetrical, "imperfect" ones, just to stab that kind of mentality in the back.
You ever grow carrots? I got one once with two legs. And another that was a round ball, more like an orange potato. The good thing about those fake baby carrots is you don't have to peel them and chop them before cooking or eating. They're great raw with peanut butter. Protein, fiber, vitamins--good snack.

carrot-feet-682_1154771a.jpg

:ack-1: That one is definitely headed for the lathe. Because this is a Murrika, and everything must be rigidly controlled, standardized and shaped into commercialability.
 
Make Healthy Foods More Affordable?
Boycott unhealthy foods?
There ARE cheap healthy foods, maybe people need to be educated on that?
Bananas, eggs, etc.
I thought eggs were supposed to be bad for us?
We probably could make fresh foods more affordable if farmers would agree to sell ALL their produce, not just the perfect stuff. I'm appalled by how much good food gets thrown away.


Y'all know where so-called "baby carrots" come from?

They're turned that way on a lathe. Literally. Usually using carrots that some corporate suit has decided is not perfectly symmetrical and therefore "won't sell" -- maybe it grew at a weird angle (even though Nature knows perfectly well what She's doing) -- so those are then put on a lathe and turned into perfect little corporate cylinders. The mentality of that makes me wanna puke.

One grocery in my town has a bulk bin for carrots. I make sure to buy the most asymmetrical, "imperfect" ones, just to stab that kind of mentality in the back.
You ever grow carrots? I got one once with two legs. And another that was a round ball, more like an orange potato. The good thing about those fake baby carrots is you don't have to peel them and chop them before cooking or eating. They're great raw with peanut butter. Protein, fiber, vitamins--good snack.

carrot-feet-682_1154771a.jpg

:ack-1: That one is definitely headed for the lathe. Because this is a Murrika, and everything must be rigidly controlled, standardized and shaped into commercialability.

It would be pretty difficult to peel that carrot! :D You can just wash it and eat it as is, Pogo.
 
Maybe it's just me. Anything that is even a little bit bitter really seems to bother me.

It is just you. Ever eat "Belgian" endive? I learned a great salad with that while working in Europe (where they simply call it "endive"). Dice it up, cube up some Gruyère cheese and chunks of Golden Delicious apple, topped with a vinaigrette. You get sweet and sour in concert.
 
I thought eggs were supposed to be bad for us?
We probably could make fresh foods more affordable if farmers would agree to sell ALL their produce, not just the perfect stuff. I'm appalled by how much good food gets thrown away.


Y'all know where so-called "baby carrots" come from?

They're turned that way on a lathe. Literally. Usually using carrots that some corporate suit has decided is not perfectly symmetrical and therefore "won't sell" -- maybe it grew at a weird angle (even though Nature knows perfectly well what She's doing) -- so those are then put on a lathe and turned into perfect little corporate cylinders. The mentality of that makes me wanna puke.

One grocery in my town has a bulk bin for carrots. I make sure to buy the most asymmetrical, "imperfect" ones, just to stab that kind of mentality in the back.
You ever grow carrots? I got one once with two legs. And another that was a round ball, more like an orange potato. The good thing about those fake baby carrots is you don't have to peel them and chop them before cooking or eating. They're great raw with peanut butter. Protein, fiber, vitamins--good snack.

carrot-feet-682_1154771a.jpg

:ack-1: That one is definitely headed for the lathe. Because this is a Murrika, and everything must be rigidly controlled, standardized and shaped into commercialability.

It would be pretty difficult to peel that carrot! :D You can just wash it and eat it as is, Pogo.

I can't see how you can "peel" any carrot. They don't have a skin. You could shave off some of the outside, but you're just wasting your carrot. To coin a phrase.
 
Maybe it's just me. Anything that is even a little bit bitter really seems to bother me.

It is just you. Ever eat "Belgian" endive? I learned a great salad with that while working in Europe (where they simply call it "endive"). Dice it up, cube up some Gruyère cheese and chunks of Golden Delicious apple, topped with a vinaigrette. You get sweet and sour in concert.

The skin on a carrot is not sour. It is just bitter tasting. I don't REALLY think it's just me. LOL. :D That is why most people do in fact peel their carrots. The skin has a not very good flavor.
 
If you are cooking them, it probably doesn't matter, but eating them raw, you can definitely taste the bitterness from the skin on the carrot. And YES, they do have a "skin" on them, Pogo! I know the peel does in fact have nutrients, but it does have a bad taste.
 
Maybe it's just me. Anything that is even a little bit bitter really seems to bother me.

It is just you. Ever eat "Belgian" endive? I learned a great salad with that while working in Europe (where they simply call it "endive"). Dice it up, cube up some Gruyère cheese and chunks of Golden Delicious apple, topped with a vinaigrette. You get sweet and sour in concert.

The skin on a carrot is not sour. It is just bitter tasting. I don't REALLY think it's just me. LOL. :D That is why most people do in fact peel their carrots. The skin has a not very good flavor.

"Most people peel their carrots"? Really? I never even heard of this until today.
Perhaps we should run a poll. ;)

If they have a "skin" -- you should be able to peel it off, right? Like a potato or an apple. I can't tell where "skin" ends and "carrot" begins. Never seen it.

I wonder if what you're tasting as "sour" is either some wax preservative put on by a distributor, or the soil it was grown in. Do you wash 'em first?
 
Maybe it's just me. Anything that is even a little bit bitter really seems to bother me.

It is just you. Ever eat "Belgian" endive? I learned a great salad with that while working in Europe (where they simply call it "endive"). Dice it up, cube up some Gruyère cheese and chunks of Golden Delicious apple, topped with a vinaigrette. You get sweet and sour in concert.

The skin on a carrot is not sour. It is just bitter tasting. I don't REALLY think it's just me. LOL. :D That is why most people do in fact peel their carrots. The skin has a not very good flavor.

"Most people peel their carrots"? Really? I never even heard of this until today. Perhaps we should run a poll.

Do it! :dunno: What the hell difference does one more stupid poll make? :D
 
Is there a bread that is not wheat? When I cut sugar out..I lose weight so easily..I love sweets though, I think I am addicted ..lol
There is wheat and gluten free bread, but it usually sucks unless you make your own. Not bad toasted, though.
 
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